Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

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That's an odd post coming from somebody who saw Josh Anderson never benefit from playing with Suzuki....How is it that you suddenly can find yourself to become a scorer just because you get the puck on your stick? If anybody can do that...why can't they?
So I guess what you're saying is the only way Ivan Demidov pans out as a pick, is if we draft another half dozen Demidov's?

Taking Josh Anderson's demise as a useful top 6 winger and acting like it's going to be the same fate for every player that plays in the top 6 from here on out, is again, odd.

Like, are you ever happy about anything? and sorry if that comes off harsh, but man....

We've got a really, really, really good prospect. Rejoice!

Not sure why you're trying to galaxy brain it further than that. We don't know what this team will look like in 2-3 years from now.

Trying to act as though nothing will change/evolve just flies against logic.
 

Rapala

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This knowing you are going to get what you want for Christmas in January is killing me. :rolleyes:
The Habs playing like total dog shit right now isn't helping either.
 

LaP

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So I guess what you're saying is the only way Ivan Demidov pans out as a pick, is if we draft another half dozen Demidov's?

Taking Josh Anderson's demise as a useful top 6 winger and acting like it's going to be the same fate for every player that plays in the top 6 from here on out, is again, odd.

Like, are you ever happy about anything? and sorry if that comes off harsh, but man....

We've got a really, really, really good prospect. Rejoice!

Not sure why you're trying to galaxy brain it further than that. We don't know what this team will look like in 2-3 years from now.

Trying to act as though nothing will change/evolve just flies against logic.
Specially since Anderson has never been an effective top 6 player in his career. He had one good season as a top 6 player in career which was an outlier.
 
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KevSkillz4

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Not giving up on Slaf. But it still needs to be proven. Strangely what Slaf has proven to me is more his passing skills than his scoring one...But maybe he'll evolve into a scorer the way Pacioretty did.

That would be great if he become a scorer like Pacio. One thing for sure, Slaf is way more promising than Pacioretty as a player. Better playmaker, better hands and more physical.

So having a better looking Pacioretty with a player like Demidov, that's a potentially a deadly duo to me !
 

Whitesnake

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So I guess what you're saying is the only way Ivan Demidov pans out as a pick, is if we draft another half dozen Demidov's?

Taking Josh Anderson's demise as a useful top 6 winger and acting like it's going to be the same fate for every player that plays in the top 6 from here on out, is again, odd.

Like, are you ever happy about anything? and sorry if that comes off harsh, but man....

We've got a really, really, really good prospect. Rejoice!

Not sure why you're trying to galaxy brain it further than that. We don't know what this team will look like in 2-3 years from now.

Trying to act as though nothing will change/evolve just flies against logic.
Half of Dozen? Nah, I'm fine with just 2. Which is usually happen when you don't f*** up the first top 5 of the draft.

I will never know why you have such a hard time with people responding to your points. You said elite players make people benefit from them. Suzuki is what I consider a great player. Did he succeeded in making Anderson benefit from it? Why do you have a hard time with people responding to your exact comments? Shouldn't you hate when people move goalposts instead?

Did I say Slaf will become Anderson? No. Did I say Laine will become Anderson? No. did I say Dach will become Anderson? No. What I DO SAY about those...it's that it's unknown right now. We don't know about Slaf scoring skills. We don't know how Laine will come back and if he'll stick around. And we don't even know if Dach is a C or a winger. So those 3 are question marks. Facts. And I have some questions too.

Am I happy about anything? Yeah...the Demidov pick for starters. The Hage pick. Caufield. Suzuki. Hutson. I guess you are not around when I talk about them or you just decide to not see it.

The question I have if who when he'll be here will be able to convert him. NOT he will NEVER HAVE ANYBODY TO CONVERT WITH HIM. What it means is that in my opinion, if you stick Suzuki, Caufield and Slaf together, the best chance we have at having a goalscorer for his insane vision, is somebody who is STILL not picked yet. So yeah, if this summer we pick Martone, and next year we pick McKennan, yeah, chances are that won't be a problem....

in the meantime, the only thing we have right now: Dach, Laine, Slaf are question marks.

As far as acting like nothing can change/evolve...that's just funny. There are a few teams in this league who haven't change or evolve in 20 years. And we haven't been a true serious contending team for 20 years now despite the flukes we had over the years. So if you don't mind, I,ll wait for a couple of great years in a row before acknowledging we are evolving. It's one thing to evolve on paper. It's on the ice that counts the most.

That would be great if he become a scorer like Pacio. One thing for sure, Slaf is way more promising than Pacioretty as a player. Better playmaker, better hands and more physical.

So having a better looking Pacioretty with a player like Demidov, that's a potentially a deadly duo to me !
Pacioretty in the NCAA was seen more a passer than a scorer. Even in the USHL. And developed into a big time scorer. My hope is that it happens for Slaf too.
 
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Whitesnake

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Specially since Anderson has never been an effective top 6 player in his career. He had one good season as a top 6 player in career which was an outlier.
Wait...so how does that work? To become succesful playing with elite players, you already have to be succesful? So what does playing with Elite players does? Be even more succesful? If we can't use Anderson....or Armia...or Newhook...or whatever to say that it doesn't prove anything, we shouldn't be able to say that Warren Young is a proof of that 'cause he became that great winger with Mario Lemieux. Or that Zach Hyman became a 50-goal scorer because of McDavid.

Demidov will need players alongside him that will be able to follow the pace. If not, what's even the point to talk about it?

Who in this team does not work well right now but would work well with Demidov? Demidov has enough talent to create plays on his own. But he will need some help. With players probably not picked yet that will have to follow his pace.
 

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