Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

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His family are Russian oligarchs. (Pipeline) construction and banking money. Both his uncle and father are billionaires and Roman Rotenberg has significant individual wealth.
And habdynasty says he is buds with Putin.

Well there we are.
 

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If his team (SKA) doesn't make the playoffs, or gets eliminated early, is there any chance we see him in a Habs jersey at the tail end of the year? KHL season is over around March 20.

It's a waste of time as there is no way SKA misses the playoffs. In the last 2 years no team has more wins then SKA (80) and this year only 2 teams have won more games.

If they get bounced early then his season is over and he can do whatever he wants.
 
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If his team (SKA) doesn't make the playoffs, or gets eliminated early, is there any chance we see him in a Habs jersey at the tail end of the year? KHL season is over around March 20.

If his season is over I would assume he would be free to move on...

It's a waste of time as there is no way SKA misses the playoffs. In the last 2 years no team has more wins then SKA (80) and this year only 2 teams have more more games.

If they get bounced early then his season is over and he can do whatever he wants.

All expiring KHL contracts terminate on 30 May.
 

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that's supposed to be for players that weren't signed before this season since Demidov was signed under the old agreement where they ended in April. Or did they fix that cause I never heard what the plan was after they announced the season would go longer.

All contracts were extended to 31 May, otherwise most players’ contracts would end before the playoffs are finished.

In exchange the league put restrictions on how early training camps are allowed to start.
 
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Like I said here before, HuGo were well aware that they would not be able to control his development this year . . . but they still drafted him at 5OA. They obviously were willing to live with that, especially after their monumental screw-up last year at 5OA.

I wonder how the meeting went with the Habs and SKA (before the season)? Yeah, Habs don't have control over it but hopefully Demidov gets higher usage because that is a shame
 

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Yeah, so we were right. Rotten-berg doesn't care about winning games - he's butthurt. It must have stung him hard when Demidov won rookie of the week and was leading his team while refusing all those cheap contracts. Had to bring him down a few notches to punish him.

And some of you felt bad for voicing our opinions lol. F this guy.
 
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According to sources in Russia near the situation, Demidov refused a 1 year up to $1M contract extension three times last month which is the reason why he’s being glued to the bench.

This is so obvious.
They gave him enough ice time to where he became the clear cut Rookie of the Year candidate.
They then dangled the carrot and tempted him with KHL fame and riches.

The problem for them is the Kid knows what is going on and his dream is set in stone.
He's already been exposed to how a first class operation goes about it's business.
SKA have about as much chance of keeping him as the Adversary in the "Temptation of Christ" had in his endeavors.
 

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This is so obvious.
They gave him enough ice time to where he became the clear cut Rookie of the Year candidate.
They then dangled the carrot and tempted him with KHL fame and riches.

The problem for them is the Kid knows what is going on and his dream is set in stone.
He's already been exposed to how a first class operation goes about it's business.
SKA have about as much chance of keeping him as the Adversary in the "Temptation of Christ" had in his endeavors.

SKA managers can't be that dumb? They are not going to be able to compete with NHL salaries.

Reducing his ice time only makes him to want this one year to be over faster. If I was them, I'd play him a lot and ensure he was happy and productive. Then try to extend him for 1 or 2 years when times are good. Seems to be a bad strategy they try over and over again when they don't have the leverage.

If they offered Demidov $5M AAV for 1 or 2 years, that might make him think more. Then he gets to sign a ELC in the NHL that is 1 or 2 years right? Faster track to big money
 

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According to sources in Russia near the situation, Demidov refused a 1 year up to $1M contract extension three times last month which is the reason why he’s being glued to the bench.

This was obvious... Their coach came out in the media at the beginning of the season and said that staying longer in SKA would be the best thing for Demidov's development as he "might not be ready" for the NHL and the AHL was a goon league essentially. This told you all you needed to know that they were attempting to sign him for a longer time.

Everything we've heard about Demidov says he wants to come over ASAP so this was always going to be a rock and a hard place situation.

What I don't really get is why they would think would be effective? Any normal human being is going to harbor resentment toward the organization doing this rather than feeling favourable to signing another year. You'd think some more carrot and less stick would go a long way.

It is Russia though.
 

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This was obvious... Their coach came out in the media at the beginning of the season and said that staying longer in SKA would be the best thing for Demidov's development as he "might not be ready" for the NHL and the AHL was a goon league essentially. This told you all you needed to know that they were attempting to sign him for a longer time.

Everything we've heard about Demidov says he wants to come over ASAP so this was always going to be a rock and a hard place situation.

What I don't really get is why they would think would be effective? Any normal human being is going to harbor resentment toward the organization doing this rather than feeling favourable to signing another year. You'd think some more carrot and less stick would go a long way.

It is Russia though.

$1M for one year is not the type of incentive required to make Demidov and his agent think. That's the dumb part IMO.... the amount they are offering.

Anyways, Demidov is surely not signing anything now with limited ice time treatment. Loan him to another team FFS. Your $1M offer didn't work and all they are doing is messing with Russian young talent/development. Reducing his ice time is not effective. History speaks for itself.
 

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What I don't really get is why they would think would be effective? Any normal human being is going to harbor resentment toward the organization doing this rather than feeling favourable to signing another year. You'd think some more carrot and less stick would go a long way.

Rotenberg is part of the Russian mafia (oligarch), breaking legs to get what he wants is how he understand things work.
 

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$1M for one year is not the type of incentive required to make Demidov and his agent think. That's the dumb part IMO.... the amount they are offering.

Anyways, Demidov is surely not signing anything now with limited ice time treatment. Loan him to another team FFS. Your $1M offer didn't work and all they are doing is messing with Russian young talent/development. Reducing his ice time is not effective. History speaks for itself.
If playing in the top league for the greatest hockey team ever is not enough, his agent is probably reminding him that aside from his salary all the Millions and Millions of sponsorship money he’d be giving up on.
 

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If playing in the top league for the greatest hockey team ever is not enough, his agent is probably reminding him that aside from his salary all the Millions and Millions of sponsorship money he’d be giving up on.

Agreed. The only thing I see working for SKA is offering him $5M for one more season. When does Demidov qualify for a 2 year ELC? Does that apply if he stays there next year and signs with the Habs for 26/27? Gets $5M now and then has a chance to max out the ELC for 2 years and then a big pay day.

Not saying I want SKA to do this but I just don't understand their strategy
 

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Agreed. The only thing I see working for SKA is offering him $5M for one more season. When does Demidov qualify for a 2 year ELC? Does that apply if he stays there next year and signs with the Habs for 26/27? Gets $5M now and then has a chance to max out the ELC for 2 years and then a big pay day.

Not saying I want SKA to do this but I just don't understand their strategy
It’s fair game for SKA to try to sign him, but unless Demidov absolutely wants to play close to home or people start being held over 12 floor balconies, it’s going to be tough.
 

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If his team (SKA) doesn't make the playoffs, or gets eliminated early, is there any chance we see him in a Habs jersey at the tail end of the year? KHL season is over around March 20.

It will depend. Because technically, Demidov is still under contract until May 30th. Similar to how free agency here is on July 1st because contracts end on June 30th, their free agency is on April 1st.

So if SKA want to be assholes, they can keep Demidov until his contract is officially over. I do think they would release him and let him sign in Montreal. But you never know really.
 

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