Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[the valiant effort]

“North America has jerks, too. Here’s why that lets Rottenberg off the hook on Demidov”

 

[McGees]

We just need to draft 2 or 3 more Demidovs and the road to the cup is paved.

 

[Hanji]

Rotenberg doesn't give a shit about what Hab media or fans say. Nobody goes on KHL/SKA English sites that Hab fans are spamming anyways.

Rotenberg cares what Russian media says. It's why he said they were "influenced by Montreal agents". He's mud-slinging and defaming them because they're getting on his case.

So could the media in Russia be inadvertently hurting Demidov by criticizing Roman Rotenborg?

 

[BLONG7]

Can the Habs rescue this kid, from this crazy coach?? Gets tiresome....

The kid seems to be playing very well, but then there is his TOI?

 

[Tyson]

Can the Habs rescue this kid, from this crazy coach?? Gets tiresome....

The kid seems to be playing very well, but then there is his TOI?

Listening to Gorton on L'antichambre and he was asked this question...short answer- no.

 

[River Meadow]

Can the Habs rescue this kid, from this crazy coach?? Gets tiresome....

The kid seems to be playing very well, but then there is his TOI?

Let him have a bad time in Russia for a year.

It'll only make him want to come to NA even more and it will make him even happier when he gets here.

 

[1909]

Can the Habs rescue this kid, from this crazy coach?? Gets tiresome....

The kid seems to be playing very well, but then there is his TOI?

SKA don’t win when he is warming the bench…. So their tactic to make him sign a longer contract doesNt work. They will now have to give him icetime if they wish to win more.

 

[Habs]

Can the Habs rescue this kid, from this crazy coach?? Gets tiresome....

The kid seems to be playing very well, but then there is his TOI?

Why don't you have an Avatar? Don't you think it's time?

 

[Skip Bayless]

Let him have a bad time in Russia for a year.

It'll only make him want to come to NA even more and it will make him even happier when he gets here.

One of the postive things that might come out of this is that Demidov might develop a goal scoring streak out of anger.

Now imagine a scenario where we're trailing with the goalie pulled, Demidov is on the ice and looks back at MSL, but Uh Oh...it's no longer MSL there, it's actually MSL wearing a Rottenburger mask made by the CIA to be as convincing as possible.

Demidov looks at that, and then his blood starts to boil...only one mission in his mind; Score goal, destroy Rottenburger.

Angry Demidov on command. Just imagine.

 

[HomaridII]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846313036006805572

 

[Skip Bayless]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846313036006805572

 

[BLONG7]

Why don't you have an Avatar? Don't you think it's time?

I did.............and then for some strange reason it was gone? Board changes and reset I think....
It was Price.....will have to try and do another one....

 

[Kennerback]

One of the postive things that might come out of this is that Demidov might develop a goal scoring streak out of anger.

Now imagine a scenario where we're trailing with the goalie pulled, Demidov is on the ice and looks back at MSL, but Uh Oh...it's no longer MSL there, it's actually MSL wearing a Rottenburger mask made by the CIA to be as convincing as possible.

Demidov looks at that, and then his blood starts to boil...only one mission in his mind; Score goal, destroy Rottenburger.

Angry Demidov on command. Just imagine.

Gretzky had conflicts with a coach in SSM in the OHL that gave him a hard time and wanted him to completely change his game. So pre-NHL conflict doesn’t automatically mean bad later on. And for all those that will complain that Demidov is no Gretzky. I know, Demidov’s more like Bobby Orr if Orr would have played forward.

 

[Beaker]

One of the postive things that might come out of this is that Demidov might develop a goal scoring streak out of anger.

Now imagine a scenario where we're trailing with the goalie pulled, Demidov is on the ice and looks back at MSL, but Uh Oh...it's no longer MSL there, it's actually MSL wearing a Rottenburger mask made by the CIA to be as convincing as possible.

Demidov looks at that, and then his blood starts to boil...only one mission in his mind; Score goal, destroy Rottenburger.

Angry Demidov on command. Just imagine.

I like it. Our very own winter soldier with activation words.

 

[Guess]

Believe what you want. But in addition to Bykov’s opinion, might as well take Zadorov’s too.


(From Yuri Dud’s webcast. Sept ‘23.)

Dud: You played at 2 World Championships. Our team was managed by Roman Rotenberg. He wasn’t coaching the team though, right?

Zadorov: No, he was the manager. He had ‘Team Leader’ written on his jacket. He made a badge for himself.

Dud: Was this the first time you had a Team Leader in hockey?

Zadorov: (laughing) Of course it was.

Dud: (laughing) They don’t have Team Leaders in the US?

Zadorov: He needs to patent his job.

Dud: Did he still try to coach?

Zadorov: He was in charge of everything, everything was through him. Even the music in locker room. Neither Sasha Ovechkin nor Malkin could change it.

Dud: Even with Ovechkin in this locker room? He couldnt change it?

Zadorov: It was all unrealistic – a person is in charge of everything.

Dud: - Okay, it's management; but from a sports perspective?

Zadorov: When we played in Bratislava we had many stars, Malkin, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Kucherov. It was one of the strongest teams on paper in the last 20 years. And we lost to the Finns who did not have a single player from the NHL.

There was no system. A lot of stars could score, but there was no coach who could implement a system. There was confusion at team meetings. Vorobyov seemed to be the coach, but Kudashov was the one yelling all the time. And Rotenberg was telling everybody what to do. Complete confusion compared to the NHL, where everything is on schedule, where you are prepared for an opponent.

We didn't have such a thing on that team. Something like “oh, Finns have a guy in the middle zone”. Everyone started laughing. There was simply no coaching. There are probably great coaches in the KHL, but those under Rotenberg had no system.

Dud: Were you surprised when Rotenberg officially became a coach?

Zadorov: No (laughs). It was unofficial, he just changed his title. Now he’s maybe not a team leader, but a team coach.

Dud: Do you assume that he can learn?

Zadorov: The fact that he is a hockey fan - 100%, that he doesn't sleep every night, watches NHL games - yes, I know that. He strives to progress, he likes it, it burns within him.

Dud: How do the players react? If I'm the son of some rich man and just decide that I can train to be a coach, the locker room will never accept me. I can't ever lead a team to success.

Zadorov: Well, if the team laughs behind your back the guys will gather themselves and discuss how to play. There was no coach.




Does this read like an astute hockey mind? Or a spoiled brat who values his own principals (vets!!!) above all else.

It’s should be no surprise the Russian Hockey Federation completely excluded Rotenberg, and all SKA influence, from 2022 olympics.

Wow, how the hell did Michkov get away from this man? What a genius!

 

[Guess]

One of the postive things that might come out of this is that Demidov might develop a goal scoring streak out of anger.

Now imagine a scenario where we're trailing with the goalie pulled, Demidov is on the ice and looks back at MSL, but Uh Oh...it's no longer MSL there, it's actually MSL wearing a Rottenburger mask made by the CIA to be as convincing as possible.

Demidov looks at that, and then his blood starts to boil...only one mission in his mind; Score goal, destroy Rottenburger.

Angry Demidov on command. Just imagine.

I'm more worried about Demidov losing his love for the game by the time he comes here.

Rotenberg: 'If I can't develop him, no one will!' *laughs maniacally*

 

[Habs]

I did.............and then for some strange reason it was gone? Board changes and reset I think....
It was Price.....will have to try and do another one....

Yeah I spot the Avatar lol, don't change it, really messes me up.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

 

[Sorinth]

I'm more worried about Demidov losing his love for the game by the time he comes here.

Rotenberg: 'If I can't develop him, no one will!' *laughs maniacally*

With some people sure that would be an issue, but with Demidov I just don't see it. Plenty of players have survived similar unfair treatment, and Demidov seems like the type that it just adds to the chip on his shoulder and fuels that I'm going to prove you wrong motivation. And let's face it, it's one year, it takes longer then that to really destroy a person's love for the game, especially given the environment he'll be moving too next year when he comes to the Habs is going to be night and day. Say what you want about MSL but he's a guy who helps ignite a player's passion.

I'm the first to remind people that players are humans first and foremost and being in a crappy environment can have a big impact on them. But one year when you know that you are leaving isn't the same as a crappy environment where you don't really see a future or a path forward.

 

[The Last Red]

He’ll be in the top 6 F group, and at some point PP 1, next season here so he’ll be plenty happy.

 

[Kennerback]

Then explain why the same situation has occurred with countless other youth players.

You fail to look at the big picture. Demidov is not unique. A pattern of misuse exists with Rotenberg.


Here’s more criticism, from former National Team coach Slava Bykov.
“This is already a problem for the team: Vyacheslav Bykov spoke critically about SKA's attitude towards the youth”
«Это уже проблема клуба». Вячеслав Быков критически высказался об отношении СКА к молодёжи

I had already seen the video of Zadorov's interview It's one thing to be disorganized, putting "team leader" on his jacket and controlling the music. It's another thing to sit a superstar that will help you win for X coaching principle or Y on-ice reason.

I'm a lover, not a hater. And I have faith in humanity. And I don't believe any coach at any level would make that decision. And I trust Rottenberg must have a non-hockey reason. I guess we'll find out in the coming months when the whole story comes out.

 

[Gally11]

I'm more worried about Demidov losing his love for the game by the time he comes here.

Rotenberg: 'If I can't develop him, no one will!' *laughs maniacally*

If you’ve ever had a boss that micro manages you the minute you get out of that situation is like the clouds parting, it’s such an amazing feeling if anything he’s going to be hella excited to land in Montreal imo

 

[G0bias]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846313036006805572

So Gorts been in contact with SKA. We know what this means.

I tell you what, Gorton never had the makings of a varsity athlete but Roman bettah watch his f***in' mouff or this stugatz gonna be sleepin' with da fishes

 

[River Meadow]

Wow, how the hell did Michkov get away from this man? What a genius!

He latched onto Papa Briere

 

[dinodebino]

This needs to be sent via Telegram or something. An instant CLASSIC!