Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[WeThreeKings]

Rendulic scored his goal when he had a chance, and Kuznetsov scored. And Demidov has 1 casual assist on PP in 3 games.

Yeah, people say he looked good, but in Russia it doesn't work this way. Here you'd better look bad and score than look good and don't score.

When your team has lost 2 games out of 3 and you don't have a lot of goals and points nobody gives a damn for your age and your skill. Especially if your team is SKA.

Actually I expected this situation and said it would be better for him to play in the VHL with a lot of TOI and no pressure. On SKA he will have to earn his playing time, and the only way to earn it is to score goals or helpers. Otherwise he'll be warming the bench...

And that's still illogical and stupid. Which is why I'm sure if it persists the Habs will see what they can do. Ice time is too important.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Locked in mamba mentality even at the shoot

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

I'm as big Demidov's fan as anybody and not since the last draft but since the kid was 15. But let's be honest, he had chances to score. And not one or even two.

Look at Michkov, he played for SKA one game last season and exactly 6 min. Of course he didn't score. But as soon as they loaned him to Sochi he started to score. He was 4+5 after 8 games. If Demidov scored at least one goal on those chances he had I doubd even Rotenberg would have dared to bench him.

Demidov creates chances galore. Especially compared to his linemates. Missing scoring on chances you create isn’t a reason to get benched

 

[Hannibal]

Get him over here asap.

Dont want him to have the same treatment as Romanov.

 

[ReHabs]

Obsessively micro-following the kid's development this year will drive some of you crazy and the stress will lead to further balding.

If you trust the Habs' judgement so far, just continue to trust it for a bit longer.

 

[Help]

what's the over/under on TOI this afternoon? I'll set the line at 9 mins

 

[Rapala]

Yeah he did and Randulic had 0 chances to score and is still getting loads of ice time. Demidov is getting chances and creating. That means things will fall.

Rotenberg was gonna bench him regardless. He wasn't warranted being benched in that 3rd.

Ignore that creativity 5 v 3 at your own peril...
Idiot

 

[Ozmodiar]

I think if he finishes the season healthy and hating the KHL, that’s a win. See ya next season.

Who cares if he gets a 5 on 3 PP point? (Besides for our instant gratification). And no, he doesn’t need “reps in these PP scenarios for his development….”.

 

[WeThreeKings]

what's the over/under on TOI this afternoon? I'll set the line at 9 mins

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I think if he finishes the season healthy and hating the KHL, that’s a win. See ya next season.

Who cares if he gets a 5 on 3 PP point? (Besides for our instant gratification). And no, he doesn’t need “reps in these PP scenarios for his development….”.

I mean I care that our most important prospect gets ice time in a critical development year. Especially since he lost time in the previous two seasons.

 

[Rapala]

Obsessively micro-following the kid's development this year will drive some of you crazy and the stress will lead to further balding.

If you trust the Habs' judgement so far, just continue to trust it for a bit longer.

No it really won't...
That is pure fantasy the kid will be followed to this extent no matter where he ends up.

We already knew going in it would be a potential clusterf***.
Not to mention Kuznetsov was never going to be as good a fit for the kid as some thought.

The Hab's judgement has absolutely nothing to do with it their hands were always going to be tied.
People thinking we could just buy this kid out of Russia it takes two to tango.
I can see SKA getting a kick out of putting sticks into the wheels of our legendary franchise...
The f***s.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

But don’t playoff rosters freeze after trade deadline, would Habs be able to put Demidov on playoff roster?

There's no freeze, just a date and that's only for players who aren't part of your reserve.

So, any prospects can be signed and play after the deadline.

That deadline is just a limit. Anyone acquired after the trade deadline aren't eligible to play in the playoffs. Same with signing a player after that time, if they're ufa.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

No it really won't...
That is pure fantasy the kid will be followed to this extent no matter where he ends up.

We already knew going in it would be a potential clusterf***.
Not to mention Kuznetsov was never going to be a good fit for the kid as many thought.

The Hab's judgement has absolutely nothing to do with it their hands were always going to be tied.
People thinking we could just buy this kid out of Russia it takes two to tango.
I can see SKA getting a kick out of putting sticks into the wheels of our legendary franchise...
The f***s.

You may have proved his point

 

[Rapala]

You may have proved his point

Because I'm actually saying it like it is.
SKA not using that kid's creativity with all that open ice would be like Chicago not using Bedard in the same situation.
It doesn't fly on one side of the pond and we always knew it was a distinct possibility.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

To early to panic , let's see how his coach sees him after games 15-20 , This was always going to be the case with a 18 year old in the K.

 

[bcv]

To early to panic , let's see how his coach sees him after games 15-20 , This was always going to be the case with a 18 year old in the K.

He should've been in the K last year. Pull the plug and bring him over ASAP.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

He should've been in the K last year. Pull the plug and bring him over ASAP.

The coach is a joker no doubt , did the same with Michkov in regards to ice time

 

[Ozmodiar]

The Hab's judgement has absolutely nothing to do with it their hands were always going to be tied.
People thinking we could just buy this kid out of Russia it takes two to tango.
I can see SKA getting a kick out of putting sticks into the wheels of our legendary franchise...
The f***s.

Maybe their judgement that led them to drafting him, knowing how this season would play out?

Practicing and playing (even if ~10:00/g) with the best in Russia is a step up from last season. Then they get their mitts on him when he’s still only 19.

 

[Rapala]

Maybe their judgement that led them to drafting him, knowing how this season would play out?

Practicing and playing (even if ~10:00/g) with the best in Russia is a step up from last season. Then they get their mitts on him when he’s still only 19.

I'm assuming everything they showed us relating to the draft was above board and they were never not going to draft him if he was available.
Anything else is afterthought. Cross that bridge when you get there.

 

[Ozmodiar]

I'm assuming everything they showed us relating to the draft was above board and they were never not going to draft him if he was available.
Anything else is afterthought. Cross that bridge when you get there.

Yeah, they’re sitting back, sipping their tea, without a worry about his development. They already knew all about the environment - it was priced into his value at the draft … might not have fallen to us without it.

Meanwhile, here, we’re pulling our hair out.

 

[The Last Red]

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I mean I care that our most important prospect gets ice time in a critical development year. Especially since he lost time in the previous two seasons.

Won’t make a huge difference in the long run. Athletic success is determined mostly by talent and natural ability, which will not disappear in seven months.

 

[morhilane]

To early to panic , let's see how his coach sees him after games 15-20 , This was always going to be the case with a 18 year old in the K.

He's not going to play that many games with SKA if he doesn't extended soon from what I read last week.

 

[Rapala]

He's not going to play that many games with SKA if he doesn't extended soon from what I read last week.

Pressure tactics that won't work and probably nothing was ever going to sway his decision.

 

[HomaridII]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1834249668282204181

 

[morhilane]

Pressure tactics that won't work and probably nothing was ever going to sway his decision.

It's quite amusing reading Rotenberg's translated interviews where he says he's commited to winning, but he trades away the u20 who don't want to extend.

 

[montreal]

Won’t make a huge difference in the long run. Athletic success is determined mostly by talent and natural ability, which will not disappear in seven months.

Most hockey players talk about the key being confidence. Of course you have to work hard and some people are born with certain skills that help them over others but there are so many factors and variables that go into this vs just being born with it imo.

Do you think Caufield would be the same player if Dom was still the coach?