Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[CanMerc]

I just really don't think you understand how hard it is to find top pairing RHD in the nhl let alone in winnipeg... we get the schmidt/miller types because those are what are actually available to us

I feel like that has become more of an excuse and crutch and less of a hurdle.
Any player that wants to win can see how good this team is and how close they are to being a true Cup contender..just 2 players away.
I know many will be all…I don’t like the cold winters, even though I play a winter sport…sissies…but I have doubts it’s as rampant as it’s made out to be.
Especially with older guys over 30…they’re not uprooting their families to move there for a year or 2..they’ll likely just commute when they can and leave in the offseason.
Almost every player that does play in WPG says how great of a place it is to play and be, and they would pass that info along to others.

 

[gojetsgo]

I feel like that has become more of an excuse and crutch and less of a hurdle.
Any player that wants to win can see how good this team is and how close they are to being a true Cup contender..just 2 players away.
I know many will be all…I don’t like the cold winters, even though I play a winter sport…sissies…but I have doubts it’s as rampant as it’s made out to be.
Especially with older guys over 30…they’re not uprooting their families to move there for a year or 2..they’ll likely just commute when they can and leave in the offseason

your right, it's just an excuse.... a poll didn't come out just 4 days ago listing 50% of the players choosing the jets as the 1st team they would put on their no trade list...

come on, this is the reality of the jets... we have by far the smallest pool of players to choose from

 

[CanMerc]

your right, it's just an excuse.... a poll didn't come out just 4 days ago listing 50% of the players choosing the jets as the 1st team they would put on their no trade list...

I didn’t see that poll… are you serious….4 days ago and it’s 50%

 

[Buffdog]

your right, it's just an excuse.... a poll didn't come out just 4 days ago listing 50% of the players choosing the jets as the 1st team they would put on their no trade list...

come on, this is the reality of the jets... we have by far the smallest pool of players to choose from

Crazy how people will just willfully disregard an absolute truth if it disproves their opinion

 

[gojetsgo]

I didn’t see that poll… are you serious….4 days ago and it’s 50%

48.78% and that's only asking them who the 1st team they would put on the list is, imagine how much higher that number is when players can add more teams to it

most players have some sort of trade protection, the reason why the jets fill their needs thru rentals is because they are more likely to waive for 20-30 games to finish a season, those with term are much harder to convince to actually waive here

 

[Buffdog]

I didn’t see that poll… are you serious….4 days ago and it’s 50%

That's "1st"

The one I saw a couple of years ago had us on like 85% of them

 

[CanMerc]

Punch of whiners… want to play a winter sport but don’t want to do it where it’s cold…they all probably want to play in Cali or Florida…leave the arena in their speedos and go straight to the beach

Crazy how people will just willfully disregard an absolute truth if it disproves their opinion

I don’t disregard shit…I just don't take speculation as fact

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I can't be more adamant that this line of thinking is a fan bias.

I've been to a game this year where Namestnikov played Dallas and shut down Wyatt Johnston. Pretty good center. I was at a Vegas game where Namestnikov's line was the best offensive line. I thought Namestnikov was real solid against the Isles. You notice how he get to the right areas quickly. Last year the Jets had a better record with Namestnikov at 2C than Monahan.

I've gone through the Dubois era where Dubois was a complete non factor in the playoffs, and had to be switched to wing in favour an older slower Stastny at 2C. Missed the playoffs with the vaunted 2C. I've been through Kevin Hayes days. I'm looking forward to Yager as the Jets next Bryan Little, maybe one more year before he's ready for the show.

Just because Namestnikov isn't a big name doesn't mean he isn't getting the job done. I'm there's a lot of stats that can be found that say he is. There's not a long list of +18 centers in the NHL. Even Big Adam needs another positive result to get there.

If anyone is singling out Namestnikov as being unable to play playoffs, he's had more success than Ehlers, and Ehlers game still irks me when I see him in the corners or perimeter when the play is in front of the net. Hopefully he gets it this year. It's pretty clear Vlad understands Arniel's expectations.

I think it's just moving parts this team needs, and I see Laughton as a moving part. To keep the wheels turning and grind out offense with good defense. I noticed that his goal last night came from a defensive end play, skating to get up the ice with Konecny, and that's something I see Arniel wanting for the playoffs.

I think it is unfair to call it "fan bias", but pointing out how good Namestnikov is is a strong argument against the need to go out and spend on a name player to bump him down. His offence is low for a 2C. Bryan Little's was always low for where he played too, and yet we remember him so fondly. The similarity to Namestnikov is that both have a strongly positive net effect. But we have ALL known for quite some time that we need a better long term solution at 2C. So it is not just "fan bias".

I would not mind going into the PO with no additions at all. I would be even happier if we could get a Robert Thomas out of StL to play 2C, Pulock from NYI to play 1RD (I still like Pulock ) and a McAvoy from Bruins to play 3LD. All on nice, team friendly contracts. But since none of those are happening, I am content to keep our assets and go with what we have. We already have depth and a couple of Moose can add more.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I think it is unfair to call it "fan bias", but pointing out how good Namestnikov is is a strong argument against the need to go out and spend on a name player to bump him down. His offence is low for a 2C. Bryan Little's was always low for where he played too, and yet we remember him so fondly. The similarity to Namestnikov is that both have a strongly positive net effect. But we have ALL known for quite some time that we need a better long term solution at 2C. So it is not just "fan bias".

I would not mind going into the PO with no additions at all. I would be even happier if we could get a Robert Thomas out of StL to play 2C, Pulock from NYI to play 1RD (I still like Pulock ) and a McAvoy from Bruins to play 3LD. All on nice, team friendly contracts. But since none of those are happening, I am content to keep our assets and go with what we have. We already have depth and a couple of Moose can add more.

If Names puts up results as a 2c low/high it doesn't matter, then why the need to replace him. Just insulate him with two strong wingers. Can you tell me who played centre with Selanne and Kariya?

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Maybe jake evans is available...

 

[Whileee]

Salomonsson has the look of a good top-4 RHD. He's back to his strong play with the Moose (2 more assists so far today). I would like to see him get some NHL exposure this season, somehow. I don't think he's far away from making the leap. He could probably play on the 3rd pair now.

 

[Gm0ney]

Salomonsson has the look of a good top-4 RHD. He's back to his strong play with the Moose (2 more assists so far today). I would like to see him get some NHL exposure this season, somehow. I don't think he's far away from making the leap. He could probably play on the 3rd pair now.

Yes, 100% this. But is there room to bring him up without waiving anyone assuming Lowry and Barron are back after the break?

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Yes, 100% this. But is there room to bring him up without waiving anyone assuming Lowry and Barron are back after the break?

Just wait until after TD no?

 

[Bender Duster]

Maybe jake evans is available...

Nah. The guy can’t take a hit.

 

[voyageur]

If Names puts up results as a 2c low/high it doesn't matter, then why the need to replace him. Just insulate him with two strong wingers. Can you tell me who played centre with Selanne and Kariya?

Steve Rucchin.

 

[gojetsgo]

If Names puts up results as a 2c low/high it doesn't matter, then why the need to replace him. Just insulate him with two strong wingers. Can you tell me who played centre with Selanne and Kariya?

so what your saying is we don't need a 2c because names is good enough as long as we get 2 hall of fame level wingers...

 

[voyageur]

so what your saying is we don't need a 2c because names is good enough as long as we get 2 hall of fame level wingers...

Jets don't have two Hall of Fame wingers on the 2nd line. But they do have chemistry. It's funny that Namestnikov gets singled out. I literally expect less from Ehlers than him in the playoffs because Vladdy goes hard to the net. Ehlers will if no one is there. I think Nik will score on the PP though in the playoffs.

What's your prediction for the amount of goals Ehlers and Perfetti score in the playoffs? With Vlad, without Vlad? I want to know what people really think is missing with that winger combo.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

If Names puts up results as a 2c low/high it doesn't matter, then why the need to replace him. Just insulate him with two strong wingers. Can you tell me who played centre with Selanne and Kariya?

Steve Rucchin...he was good too.

 

[voyageur]

Salomonsson has the look of a good top-4 RHD. He's back to his strong play with the Moose (2 more assists so far today). I would like to see him get some NHL exposure this season, somehow. I don't think he's far away from making the leap. He could probably play on the 3rd pair now.

Do you think he's ahead of Coghlan yet? I notice that Coghlan is running top PP now. He's also Salomonsson's d partner. Edit: today Salomonsson played with Sauntner. Coghlan with Phillips.

I get the sense that Scotty liked a lot of what Coghlan brought from a depth position.

But not sure who would be better to handle 20 minutes a night if De Melo or Pionk went down. Probably not Miller.

 

[Buffdog]

so what your saying is we don't need a 2c because names is good enough as long as we get 2 hall of fame level wingers...

Ehlers is absolutely going to the hall of fame

Haven't you seen his P/60?

 

[DRW204]

If Names puts up results as a 2c low/high it doesn't matter, then why the need to replace him. Just insulate him with two strong wingers. Can you tell me who played centre with Selanne and Kariya?

Can you tell me if ehlers and Perfetti are comparable to Selanne and kariya?

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Sounds like Rantanen may be on the trade market if he doesn't sign the latest 13mil aav offer from the Canes.

I'd love to add him as a rental and to go all in on this postseason, what's the most you guys would pay? Canes should be motivated to get him out of the east.

Connor - Scheifele - Vilardi
Rantanen - Lowry - Ehlers
Perfetti - Names - Iafallo
Nino - Kupari - Appleton

I'd do our 1st, Barlow, and Heinola as a start.

 

[voyageur]

Sounds like Rantanen may be on the trade market if he doesn't sign the latest 13mil aav offer from the Canes.

I'd love to add him as a rental and to go all in on this postseason, what's the most you guys would pay? Canes should be motivated to get him out of the east.

Connor - Scheifele - Vilardi
Rantanen - Lowry - Ehlers
Perfetti - Names - Iafallo
Nino - Kupari - Appleton

I'd do our 1st, Barlow, and Heinola as a start.

Canes are going to get Guentzel'd again I think. Owner wants star players in a market that doesn't attract star power. And draft position that makes it harder to find them.

Myself I am hoping Barlow-Yager-Lambert to start on the Moose next year. 3 1st rounders a year apart. With Salomonssom could be a good PP.

If the Jets were lucky they could maybe get Bjornstrand there, but that's hoping that he'd want to play here.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Can you tell me if ehlers and Perfetti are comparable to Selanne and kariya?

Well Perfetti has three vowels and so does selanne. Need more proof? Ehlers and Kariya? Both 6 letters.

 

[voyageur]

Absolutely not.
People need to stop trying to trade Salo. Besides being a very good prospect, he is the only RHD we have who looks like ever making the NHL. We could even say he is the only Dman we have, but I have a good feeling about Freij, at least so far.

We still have a flawed right side and it isn't getting any younger.

I don't mind missing out on Cozens at all. I think he is a big risk who is already being paid like a proven top 6 player. You might say he is a high risk, high reward gamble but I don't think we are in a position to gamble like that. We don't have enough assets to be able to afford the loss. Never bet money you can't afford to lose. But regardless of the risk attached, I don't trade Salo. The only way I do that is if we are getting a good, young RHD, with term, coming back in the deal. Buffalo doesn't have that guy.

Maybe, if we are talking Dobson from NYI I consider Salo. I would prefer to be adding another RHD to him, not just trading a younger one for a more proven one. But you have to give to get.

BTW, I just noticed Dobson on LTIR. Isles are making room for something? Someone going to acquire Dobson and leave him on LTIR until the TD? Or is his injury really that bad?

He's not gone for season. 5 of the Jets next 6 opponents before the trade deadline are non playoff teams. Blues, Sharks, Sens, Preds, Flyers, Isles. There will probably be some scouting there.

Pens, Blackhawks, Canadiens are definite sellers. After that we'll see.