Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[antiqueslivers]

I could see them giving him the same but with less term.

 

[Dirtbag151]

Can't see the Jets giving him the same/ more than Scheifele.

He's not worth more than Sheif...
KFC will be our highest paid player and that's totally fine but Ehlers I cant see them paying his more than $8-$8.2

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

I think Scheif and Helle would be much happier having Ehlers on the team at 9 vs having no Ehlers on the team

 

[Gm0ney]

I think Scheif and Helle would be much happier having Ehlers on the team at 9 vs having no Ehlers on the team

It's just inflation/keeping up with the cap ceiling.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

That’s totally fair

But

Let’s presume there’s finally an equivalent to stastny 2017-18 at the deadline available

Do you do it? I lean with gravity towards yes

But that guy is not there this year.

They were always overpriced that's why half price cocktail nights were so good. Or 25 cent draft nights.

You're older than I thought Dude.

 

[voyageur]

My point is that he put up 70 points last season and that is going to inflate his upcoming contract demands. The assets we'd lose to get him would be young, and on ELC's most likely, and then we'd have to sign him to something probably around 9 or 10 million (who knows with the rising cap). His overall game doesn't support that in my viewings and from overwhelming comments from Isles fans. There would be a large impact to the cap and how it affects the rest of the team signings.

That to me doesn't make us a better team. Maybe he becomes a much better 2 way guy and it works out great, but that's the reason why a fanbase (and apparently Mgmt) are skeptical on giving him a huge deal.

Possibly getting another RHD to add to that position is a different topic however and one I agree is important, especially since we don't know what will play out with Pionk.

Maybe I'm on an island here, but value, value, value should be the name of the game here. Not saying he was ever really available, but that's why I was fully on the Weegar bus vs Anderson. He's already signed long term which going forward now is going to be stupid value.

I have no idea what the numbers would be for a player like that. It's really not something I can speculate on because tomorrow will be the first Islander game I see. I do know that a $4 million salary isn't going to break the bank this year so there should be some interest if he gets on the market. He and Byram have those unique contracts that have a 3 year bridge, with one year before UFA after, so those are tricky contracts to manage for the teams that sign them...if there is no will to renegotiate I think both get moved offseason. And I'd say in a defense thin market they'll get some attention and long term deals somewhere if not on their respective teams.

My own premonition is that the Jets aren't going to break up Morrissey-De Melo this playoff. At least not before the playoffs. Whatever happens with our top 4 will happen. All have underachieved in the past come playoff time at various times, but the Arniel mindset is leave the the past behind.

If that's the case then I don't expect Chevy to go big unless there's a big injury, knock on wood. I'd still inquire though to see where the team stands on that player. What assets it would take. Because with D'Angelo signed to run the PP in Long Island, there's an opportunity for their org to use a player like that to upgrade elsewhere, somebody who gave up a 1st would give them a chance to make a collateral trade like Vancouver did with its assets. For the Isles I think they'd be looking for a top 6 forward. Chibrikov would fit that team, with a lot of Russians.

I think Olli Maata is the guy the Jets will get.
He fits, can play offside with Stan, and kill penalties in his place. Can play strong side with Miller. Can play up the lineup with J Mo if more offense is needed. Can play with Heinola on his strong side, without sacrificing a PKer. Opens up a lot of options, and cost is rental, not a big asset move. Also played with all the Kings on the roster in L.A. so pretty easy fit in the dressing room.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Both this season and last Jarvis has spent over half his time with Aho at 5v5, but if he's not with Aho, he's usually with Staal. Almost 900 minutes at 5v5 with Aho over the last 2 seasons. Rantanen will probably bump him down to Staal's line more permanently though.

Perfetti's had 950 minutes with Namestnikov and just 88 with Scheifele the past two years...I like Names, but he's no Aho. Of course Staal's more like Lowry...

Jarvis' speed really stood out a couple of times Tues. FWIW

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

He's not worth more than Sheif...
KFC will be our highest paid player and that's totally fine but Ehlers I cant see them paying his more than $8-$8.2

Scheif is not a comparable because he signed when the cap was a lot lower. Saying this player is worth more or less than that other player who signed at a different time just isn't realistic. They'll never sign another contract with that kind of thinking.

 

[AlaskaJet]

So if helle gets injured we just forfeit the playoffs, gotcha. I think this plan sucks for the record.

We could always see if Comrie has another bagel or two up those big sleeves..That might change the conversation just a bit, doncha’ think??

 

[MardyBum]

Never gonna get em as they'd have to part with Vilardi or Connor but someone is going to gett lucky

 

[jokesondee]

Dobson for Ehlers straight up??

 

[Jets 31]

Dobson for Ehlers straight up??

Only if Chevy knows that Ehlers isn't going to sign here .

 

[Jets 31]

Never gonna get em as they'd have to part with Vilardi or Connor but someone is going to gett lucky

I wouldn't trade Vilardi or Connor for Dobson but he would be a great add to our defense.

 

[jokesondee]

Shitty news on Brock Nelson. Although i dont know why he would be interested in a short term contract with the Isles. Doesnt make much sense for him at his age. This would be his time to land one last 4-5 year deal and then ride off into the sunset. A lot of online chatter too that he wants to play in Minnesota(his home state). Thats why ive always thought we made a lot of sense for him as a rental. Get traded to Winnipeg for a nice(hopefully long) playoff run close to home, and then sign with Minnesota in the off-season.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

Only if Chevy knows that Ehlers isn't going to sign here .

And doubtful Ehlers would be willing to re-sign with the Isles so not really much of a deal for them, Dobson might only have one year left but he is an RFA.

 

[bustamente]

They were always overpriced that's why half price cocktail nights were so good. Or 25 cent draft nights.

25 cents ?, 10 cent draft night at the Grant, used to bring them to your table in the dishwasher rack , those were sure different times and the draft sucked.

 

[Huffer]

Samberg is still a RFA after this season, but only for 1 more year. He is scheduled to be a UFA starting the 26-27 season. Chevy needs to lock him up long term.

Thatnks, I didn't word that properly. I knew he had 1 more RFA year just didn't know if he had 1 more RFA year or 2 more RFA years.

Totally agree and I hope we lock him up long term.

 

[Heldig]

They were always overpriced that's why half price cocktail nights were so good. Or 25 cent draft nights.

At The Grant?

 

[Buffdog]

25 cents ?, 10 cent draft night at the Grant, used to bring them to your table in the dishwasher rack , those where sure different times and the draft sucked.

Yeah I remember 10 cent draft nights too... we were pretty sure they just kept the kegs that were almost empty and sold us the stale shit at the bottom lol

 

[Whileee]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lou is leaking the Nelson extension to try to get better trade offers.

Dobson is a pipe dream, but a future Jets D with this top 4 could be pretty darn good...

Morrissey-Salomonsson
Samberg-Dobson

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Perfetti for Dobson... im in

I wouldn't be surprised if Lou is leaking the Nelson extension to try to get better trade offers.

Dobson is a pipe dream, but a future Jets D with this top 4 could be pretty darn good...

Morrissey-Salomonsson
Samberg-Dobson

Are we still projecting Salo at top pairing?

 

[jokesondee]

Perfetti for Dobson... im in

We would have to add.......a lot.

 

[Flair Hay]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/60...cards-metropolitan?source=user-shared-article

Athletic has Dobson rated as 4th best defenseman in the Metro. Best on the Islanders. Estimated at $8M value...

6'4, 195 lbs two way top pair defenseman. Going to be the best player on the market. Maybe not quite Pietrangelo calibre but pretty close?

I think the catch is he is one year and a half from UFA. Lou is probably shopping him because he is grumpy he wants $9-10M a year.

Feels like the Timo Meier situation. We will be interested, but we won't pay the price he commands unless there is some interest in an extension on the summer.

As was said already on this page, someone may get really lucky. If Vegas offered up Barbashev and McNabb with a 1st I could see that one happening as they can sign anyone they want practically

 

[gojetsgo]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lou is leaking the Nelson extension to try to get better trade offers.

Dobson is a pipe dream, but a future Jets D with this top 4 could be pretty darn good...

Morrissey-Salomonsson
Samberg-Dobson

it's far more likely to be a fake rumor, lebrun said last night that nelson is likely headed to july 1st, lou is notorious for not talking to the media and then if you look at the original source of the rumor then you can all but confirm its fake, the jim biringer guy is following 2155 people while only having 1800 followers himself and he also runs a site called "nhlrumors.com" it was retweeted by an account called "rgmedia" who has 571 followers

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lou is leaking the Nelson extension to try to get better trade offers.

Dobson is a pipe dream, but a future Jets D with this top 4 could be pretty darn good...

Morrissey-Salomonsson
Samberg-Dobson

I bet he doesn't want to sign there and by all accounts he doesn't get along with Roy. The guy who posted it is supposed to be reliable.

They have a real problem with offense and a ton of contracts with NTC in it. I think Chevy would be looking at this. Perfetti would be the basis for the trade. He is young and playing top 6 minutes and would give them what they really want. You could sweeten the deal easily with a prospect whether that is someone like Lambert who is ready or someone like Salo who would replace Dobson in the future is up to them.

You would be pretty set for a long long time on the backend. I guess you hope he signs here and that would be my concern but you got him for another year at least