Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Mortimer Snerd]

Thank you for telling me what I inferred.

I thought you told me.

 

[AtomicJets]

There are very few legit #2 centers available. I wouldn't want to move assets for a guy who is borderline 2/3. We need a guy that can produce offense.

For me the only names which have been mentioned and sound interesting are Cozens, Brock Nelson, and Mikael Granlund. Barzal of course would be awesome but I don't believe he is a realistic option.

Cozens would probably cost the most given his age and the term remaining on his deal. Sabres would probably want a first plus good prospects. I don't think they'd be interested in rental vets so we wouldn't be unloading Iafallo or Miller on them. Guys like Heinola, Chibrikov, Lambert, Salomonsson would have to be on the table.

Brock Nelson is interesting to me. He's 33 but he can still skate and he's a big body with tons of playoff experience and success, going to the ECF twice. He has produced in the playoffs as well. He's been a top six centre his whole career. It's going to cost a first round pick for sure but maybe not much more than that... Probably a decent prospect as well. We'd have to strike first, there will be other teams interested. He has a 16 team no trade list but maybe would waive for Winnipeg in a rental situation with a good team?

Granlund is probably the cheapest but least effective of the trio. I still think he would be an improvement over what we have. If it's a first round pick straight up for Granlund and he's the only guy available, do you make the deal? I think I would.

 

[Jet]

I thought you told me.

Is this the argument clinic?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Is this the argument clinic?

That's not argument. Its query. That's down the hall to the left.

 

[Bender Duster]

I think the Jets could benefit by adding another 3/4 D and a 2/3 line forward as the gear up for the playoffs (I mean...most teams could ).

I don't like the idea of shipping out a ton of prospects and draft picks to do it though. Yager, Lambert, Salomonsson, Chibrikov, He, Walton and our 2025 1st would be off the table for me,

I would consider moving Fetts, Heinola, Stan and our 2026 2nd though if it meant improving the team. I'd also dangle Gus and Barron if it would help seal a deal.

I'd also put the rights to Rashevsky in the mix. A team like Philly might be able to lure him over.

 

[jetsforever]

Signing toews would be wild off-ice
On-ice, not sure if he has anything left but can't hurt

 

[MyNameIsTaken]

“Can you make one move? Can you make two moves? Do you want to make one big move, do you want to make two other moves? And again, who’s out there."

Textbook Chevyquote.

Also:
“It’s a group that you want to win so badly for. I feel indebted to them for what they’ve given the organization, the community. I feel that it’s my obligation to try to help them achieve their goals of trying to win the Cup."

Uh...*their goals*? What's your f***ing goal, Chevy?? It sounds like he would otherwise be indifferent on helping these guys win the Cup but they've worked hard and now they've convinced him to give it a shot...lol

I imagine it doesn’t actually bother you that much and I’m the one making a big deal about it here, but are you actually annoyed at that second quote? To me, it seems like he is saying he feels compelled to be aggressively win now, more than he might otherwise.

 

[AtomicJets]

I imagine it doesn’t actually bother you that much and I’m the one making a big deal about it here, but are you actually annoyed at that second quote? To me, it seems like he is saying he feels compelled to be aggressively win now, more than he might otherwise.

Pretty sure he's just saying that the Cup win would belong to the team and not to him, since they are the ones who actually play the games. You know, being humble and downplaying his role.

 

[Gm0ney]

I imagine it doesn’t actually bother you that much and I’m the one making a big deal about it here, but are you actually annoyed at that second quote? To me, it seems like he is saying he feels compelled to be aggressively win now, more than he might otherwise.

It sounds bad, but I'm inclined to just chalk it up to Chevy's bafflegab. He's not saying what he's saying...he never is!

 

[BoneDocUK]

It sounds bad, but I'm inclined to just chalk it up to Chevy's bafflegab. He's not saying what he's saying...he never is!

Yep. My main takeaways from this and every other Chevy interview, with very few exceptions, are these:

- He is Chevy and is GM of a hockey team, the Jets

- These Jets are made up of certain players, and might someday be made up of certain other players

- Ideally, this team should win games, and if they are not winning games, some changes may be made to promote more winning of games

- Several levers are available to Chevy to enable additional game winning; for example, a trade, or not a trade. Also, a coach might have a sudden revelation; for example, that a promising defender, previously shackled by conservative coaching -- say, a JMo -- might, if allowed, score points, and this would cost nothing at all

- See item 1, and/or make an appt to hear this list again on Locker Clearout Day

 

[CorgisPer60]

Lowry out week to week with UBI. Gotta put some heightened emphasis on getting another C via TDL.

 

[gojetsgo]

Lowry out week to week with UBI. Gotta put some heightened emphasis on getting another C via TDL.

1000% but the 4nations coming up could make this easier to overcome with the 2 week break

 

[WolfgangPuck]

It be remarkable if Toews can contribute.
He’s old and hasn’t played competitively for few years. Those Stanley Cup rings were more than a decade ago
Maybe bring him in to win those face offs and teach the boys how to compete in the playoffs?

 

[voyageur]

It be remarkable if Toews can contribute.
He’s old and hasn’t played competitively for few years. Those Stanley Cup rings were more than a decade ago
Maybe bring him in to win those face offs and teach the boys how to compete in the playoffs?

I love the idea of Jonathan Toews coming back and cleaning clocks on the faceoffs, but he's been out for so long does it just come back? Is it knowing tendencies? First thing is conditioning. Then it's re-entering a faster league than you left, and being fast enough to keep up.

I'd say it's a step up from acquiring Matt Hendricks in a playoff race. But the expectations would be low. 4th line center. PP/PK maybe. The experience would be the biggest asset.

 

[DRW204]

Perfetti straight up? Buffalo gets a former 10th overall pick, a year younger, cheaper, scoring at the same rate, maybe needs a change of scenery. Jets get a former 7th overall pick, 1 year older, way more expensive, plays C, maybe needs a change of scenery.

more of an off-season deal i think. do you think Perfetti has higher upside than Cozens?

 

[Skidooboy]

Signing toews would be wild off-ice
On-ice, not sure if he has anything left but can't hurt

yes it can hurt. hurt a lot
don't want him don't need him

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

If Toews was able to make a comeback i wonder if he would be enough to create a good second line. He hasn't played in almost 2 years.

His last game was April 13, 2022, so it's been just under 2 years (20 months) & finished the season with 15G & 16A in 53 games, scoring at 0.58/GP. On this years edition of the Jets he'd be 5th in scoring. He also spent his last few seasons playing through injury & missed all of February & March in his final season.

I can't imagine Toews being any good at this point considering age and time away from the league, was already on the decline before stepping away

See above. Although on the decline, his offensive numbers were still better than over 2/3rd of the league. 500 forwards played 50 games or more that year. Towes' 0.58/GP ranked 150 of 498.

No kidding a hard NO on this D Toews talk nonsense! We already had a useless miserable 36 year old big wheel!

I think it's a fair point that at 36 he could easily be washed up.

But if Toews was willing to sign at league minimum, perhaps even doing a conditioning stint with the Moose to see what he has left, I don't see what it could hurt.

Chevy certainly should putt all his eggs in one basket with expectations he's the solution at 2C. Pursue other options via trade & give Toews a PTO which costs the team nothing but pro-rated cap space.

 

[DRW204]

his final year toews was getting 3m+ a night on the PP, and scored 12/31 pts there. idk if he sees that much TOI/gp here with the way the Jets PP has been clicking with the current cast. the 5v5 numbers were poor but also have to factor in the state of the Blackhawks at the time.

i don't really see him as a 2C if added. I really hope that's not the spot on the depth chart they had in mind. 36 years old, two years removed from playing NHL hockey, while essentially rehabbing his health... i am tempering my expectations for him a bit.

i think he'd be a 4C maybe 3W with 2nd unit special teams play. Probably PK for sure given he's usually v good at faceoffs. but then again, 2 years out of the game...

 

[voyageur]

his final year toews was getting 3m+ a night on the PP, and scored 12/31 pts there. idk if he sees that much TOI/gp here with the way the Jets PP has been clicking with the current cast. the 5v5 numbers were poor but also have to factor in the state of the Blackhawks at the time.

i don't really see him as a 2C if added. I really hope that's not the spot on the depth chart they had in mind. 36 years old, two years removed from playing NHL hockey, while essentially rehabbing his health... i am tempering my expectations for him a bit.

i think he'd be a 4C maybe 3W with 2nd unit special teams play. Probably PK for sure given he's usually v good at faceoffs. but then again, 2 years out of the game...

I think that's the spot you'd want to start him in. 4C, have Morgan Barron on his wing who can crash and bang and also cover a lot of ice defensively to protect him early. I'd be looking at what the impact could be of Toews vs. Kupari/Gus, in similar minutes, maybe adjusted for a few more if you find some linemates to get in a rythym with. Realistically with Lowry out the guys who are getting a chance to show what they can do are Kupari and Gustafssson, and I'm not sure either would be on a lot of starting lineups for playoff teams.

I'd say there is still at least some possibility that the Jets settle on Lowry as the 2C. But Namestnikov has to show now what he can do at a replacement level.

I definitely wonder what it's going to look like coming back home against hungry teams like the Flames and Utah who might want to push their weight around a little more without Lowry to hold them accountable. And how teams play our stars on the road, without that leadership and protection. Especially going into Boston and Washington expecting some bad blood.

Lowry's injury spans #1 matchup center, top PK center, toughest player, best faceoff guy on the left side. That's big skates to fill for the whole team. Really puts the center position in the spot light, and might be the biggest loss for the Jets this year, with all due respect to Ehlers and Samberg.

Toews better be skating every day now.

Still 8 games away from the 4 Nations break, with 7 more after that to the trade deadline, which would be the deadline to sign JT. 44 days to get in game shape.

 

[JetsFan815]

Lowry out week to week with UBI. Gotta put some heightened emphasis on getting another C via TDL.

Out with Urinary Bladder Infection? ouch that sounds painful

 

[voyageur]

Cody Glass for Chaz Lucius?

 

[Gm0ney]

more of an off-season deal i think. do you think Perfetti has higher upside than Cozens?

Cozens has basically had one big outlier year where he significantly outscored Perfetti at the equivalent age, and has since backslid for two seasons. Perfetti's current season is underwhelming us all, and he's been pretty much equivalent to Cozens this season and last...and he's younger, so still more uncertainty about where his ceiling is.

OTOH, Cozens looks like he might be able to play C in the NHL (the Jets don't seem to think Perfetti will). He did actually put up that tantalizing big season and it doesn't seem to be the product of powerplays or unsustainable shooting percentages or anything. He's also more physically gifted - bigger, faster, smiles more (probably).

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

Toews better be skating every day now.

Still 8 games away from the 4 Nations break, with 7 more after that to the trade deadline, which would be the deadline to sign JT. 44 days to get in game shape.

If you've read the GQ article, skating daily is going to be a breeze compared to what he's already endured.

Jonathan Toews Opens Up About His Healing Trip to India and Whether He’ll Ever Play Hockey Again

After a litany of health issues forced him to step away from his career, the former Chicago Blackhawks captain underwent a five-week Ayurvedic detox—enduring induced vomiting and daily enemas—in an effort to get his body and mind back on track.

www.gq.com

 

[SLAYER]

His last game was April 13, 2022, so it's been just under 2 years (20 months)

April 13, 2022 was 2 years, 9 months, 9 days ago.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

If you've read the GQ article, skating daily is going to be a breeze compared to what he's already endured.

Jonathan Toews Opens Up About His Healing Trip to India and Whether He’ll Ever Play Hockey Again

After a litany of health issues forced him to step away from his career, the former Chicago Blackhawks captain underwent a five-week Ayurvedic detox—enduring induced vomiting and daily enemas—in an effort to get his body and mind back on track.

www.gq.com

Uh-huh. Sure, JT.

Well, if this doesn't do the trick, he can always head to the Philippines for some psychic surgery to remove all that bad, bad badness that's making him sick.