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Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

Our lower range rentals have actually paid off well for us. DeMelo, Nino, Names and Miller have all stayed. I think the middle class guys are often just fine staying in Winnipeg.
It'll be interesting to see if the Jets go this route -
This is middle class that likely plays lower class minutes and taking spots that were being battled for (by our draft picks) all season. Not sure if that is what the Jets want to do - but he is an upgrade.
 
Im not sure that Lingren is much of an upgrade. I'd certainly like to see Chevy set the bar a little higher
Yeah I don't reallly get acquiring a guy who isn't a bonafide top 4 guy, significantly above anything we have now. I'd much rather go for a 2C if we're spending assets or making a hockey trade.
 
Yeah I don't reallly get acquiring a guy who isn't a bonafide top 4 guy, significantly above anything we have now. I'd much rather go for a 2C if we're spending assets or making a hockey trade.
Has linden already been traded to wpg as multiple posts bout it, but, can’t find anything.
 
Yeah I don't reallly get acquiring a guy who isn't a bonafide top 4 guy, significantly above anything we have now. I'd much rather go for a 2C if we're spending assets or making a hockey trade.
I mean he is playing top pairing with fox...

Hes getting top 4 ev mins and top 2 pk mins

Even if lindgren just bumps stan off our pk rotation thats a massive improvement

Samberg-demelo
Lindgren-miller

Suddenly you have jomo and pionk rested
 
Yeah but they haven't shown any interest in putting Miller out there on the PK. I would also like to get Pionk off the PK both to rest him and to hopefully get some better results. Don't think replacing Stan with Lindgren does that.
 
Pagnotta says Rasmus Andersson “would be open to a move and would welcome one”

Would love Andersson on the Jets
Dream scenario. Jets have the pieces, but would he want to be here long term? Doubtful.

Calgary exceeding expectations and fighting for a wildcard spot likely keeps him off the market barring a ridiculous overpayment.
 
Here’s the X link from the main board


Says it would cost 3 assets…1st, prospect, +…with the + varying depending on the quality of the prospect.

Also sounds like it’s more of Pagnotta thinking this or that, instead of anything Andersson has said
 
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I dont see the urgency - Andersson will get a HAUL next TD

Think the Flames would be nuts not to just sign him to an 8 yeard deal
But if he wants out, (not saying he wants out or could just open to it if it’s offered), then moving him sooner rather than later could be the best move.
 
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Rumours are CGY would be looking for a C prospect… so that’s Lucius, Lambert, Yager
-Lucius has the injury history and hasn’t really lived up to his draft position…in part because of the injury issues
-Lambert is our closest to ready C prospect and is so far looking like he’s gonna be a good player
-Yager is our future 2C hope, but is a couple, at least, years away

Most likely CGY would want Lambert

If I knew for certain he’d be willing to extend in WPG, I’d be a lot more willing to discuss prospects like Lambert or Yager
 
I would pay their ask even if Rasmus leaves after his contract is up, we'd have him for the next 2 runs while Helle and Scheif are elite
Would depend on the ask for me.
I would trade them Pionk though.. I know I’m in the minority here and if I had the choice I’d keep him for the rest of this season…but he’s likely gonna want a huge raise after this year, with how he’s playing, and I personally highly doubt he’s going to be able to repeat this years play again.
 
I would pay their ask even if Rasmus leaves after his contract is up, we'd have him for the next 2 runs while Helle and Scheif are elite
I’d honestly have a hard time saying no as well, but in a market like Winnipeg, it would sting losing Lambert or Yager, 1st + if the year and a half with Rasmus craps out.
 
Rumours are CGY would be looking for a C prospect… so that’s Lucius, Lambert, Yager
-Lucius has the injury history and hasn’t really lived up to his draft position…in part because of the injury issues
-Lambert is our closest to ready C prospect and is so far looking like he’s gonna be a good player
-Yager is our future 2C hope, but is a couple, at least, years away

Most likely CGY would want Lambert

If I knew for certain he’d be willing to extend in WPG, I’d be a lot more willing to discuss prospects like Lambert or Yager
I don't think there is anyway for certain to know if Anderson would be willing to re-sign in Winnipeg. He is 1 1/2 years out so he can't re-sign yet. Chevy would have to trade for him based on 1 1/2 years of service and hope he likes it in Winnipeg. He only has a 6 team no trade list, so maybe Winnipeg isn't on it.
 
I never understood players having a location issue with WPG.
During the season, they play so often they’re not doing much but playing, practicing, and working out.
During the offseason, they’ve been paid enough that they should be able to go anywhere they want without it being an issue.
 
Rumours are CGY would be looking for a C prospect… so that’s Lucius, Lambert, Yager
-Lucius has the injury history and hasn’t really lived up to his draft position…in part because of the injury issues
-Lambert is our closest to ready C prospect and is so far looking like he’s gonna be a good player
-Yager is our future 2C hope, but is a couple, at least, years away

Most likely CGY would want Lambert

If I knew for certain he’d be willing to extend in WPG, I’d be a lot more willing to discuss prospects like Lambert or Yager
Andersson is prob worth lambert and yager
 
If I’m going to make the deal, I try to keep Lambert and trade Yager.
Our window is now and next year Lambert helps that where as Yager is more of an after the window closes type prospect.

Offer 1st + Yager + Heinola and see what happens
 
Swap Heinola for Salo and I think that's probably a deal that Calgary considers. They will get significantly better offers than 1st Yager Heinola. It's a massive risk that you make that move and he doesn't resign. Likely this is an offseason move when you can at least discuss the possibility of an extension with the player.
 
0 interest in sending anything significant for Andersson.

I'm sure someone is going to try and say that Andersson is amazing and Pionk sucks, but Pionk's career PPG is .48, and Andersson's is .44. And Pionk is outscoring him this year. And Andersson is not some defensive stalwart. (unless someone wants to show some numbers that indicate otherwise). And I'm not even a huge Pionk fan and have already posted worry about his upcoming new deal.

Don't get me wrong, Andersson is a good player, but people want to send high end packages with 1sts and some of our best prospects, AND then look to re-sign him to his next big deal that he's going to want to cash in on?

If it was between possibly extending Pionk (because he's been here and there is likely a better chance of that) and keeping the assets, or losing the assets, Pionk, and extending Andersson, I'm taking the former every time.

Do people think if Pionk had 1 more year on his deal and was being shopped that we'd be getting a 1st and 2 of another teams top 5 prospects?
 
Swap Heinola for Salo and I think that's probably a deal that Calgary considers. They will get significantly better offers than 1st Yager Heinola. It's a massive risk that you make that move and he doesn't resign. Likely this is an offseason move when you can at least discuss the possibility of an extension with the player.
I think that is only a trade you make if Anderson was in a position to re-sign and was willing to do so long term. Yager and Salo and another 1st pretty much is an all in move for a 2 year window that will gut the future.
 
If you're going to overpay go do it for Weegar. He's been better this year(and in past) and has way more term (which won't matter when he declines because trade all prospects for Helle's window then sell the team).

That at least makes sense for the "3 1sts level" offer people are making for a *good* dman as a year and a half rental.
 
If you're going to overpay go do it for Weegar. He's been better this year(and in past) and has way more term (which won't matter when he declines because trade all prospects for Helle's window then sell the team).

That at least makes sense for the "3 1sts level" offer people are making for a *good* dman as a year and a half rental.
Agreed, although in the Athletic when they did an article where Ates used Weegar as a player that would be ideal for Winnipeg, the other writer had to offer the return and Mirtle said Lambert. Now it could end up being Lambert and a plus (if it came to be), but not the 3 1sts level offers that get thrown around here.


Even then, while I like Weegar more than Pionk, we'd be choosing Weegar over Pionk + Lambert (plus whatever). Might work out in the long run if Pionk wants too much and Lambert doesn't turn out, but have to look at that angle as well IMO.


All that said, IF the Jets had an offer for a player like Andersson that wasn't a big overpayment, with a prospect in a potential position of depth (lets say a 1st / Barlow + something), and the Jets went into a trade with the idea of, we'll go into the summer and extend Pionk (they've had those discussions), and then trade Andersson and recoup 90% of the cost to acquire, that could be a possible move.
 
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