That would be a slower line than anything we have ever put out.
2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread
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I'd really like to see them try out one and or both of Ehlers - Lowery - Nino or Ehlers - Names - Nino to see what I that might look like.
The 2nd and 3rd lines essentially play the exact same TOI at even strength so any messing around there is really about finding a good mix more than getting anyone more or less ice time.
The 2nd and 3rd lines essentially play the exact same TOI at even strength so any messing around there is really about finding a good mix more than getting anyone more or less ice time.
Jets linked to Ryan Lindgren. Hmmmm
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I wonder if that rumor is because there's been a few trades between both orgs.
Looks like Lindgren is a shutdown LD. Would that mean Samberg is bumped to 3rd pairing?
Could give us 3 good pairings with one defensive D on each.
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That's my guy on defense. Minnesota guy. Played on US U-20, with Samberg. Great PKer, good skater. Playoff warrior.
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If Sammy and Pionk have chemistry I'd just put Lindgren in that role with Miller. Lindgren has more experience as a shutdown guy. Miller's done it too. 3 pairings that can play even minutes would be a benefit if you don't have a superstar like Makar or Hughes that can play every other shift, and 3 minutes shifts. Though Josh Morrissey isn't that far off from being that good. But everybody would be playing a role.
Agreed. Just because the article mentions 2nd pairing doesn’t mean that’s where he plays with the Jets.
And it moves Big Stan to PB, unless he’s included in the deal.
Only if he comes with Adam Fox...
Lindgren at 5v5 2022-23-present
| TOI | CF% | FF% | GF% | xGF% | SCF% | HDCF% | |
| with Fox | 2156:11 | 52.33 | 52.31 | 58.43 | 50.34 | 52.52 | 51.14 |
| w/o Fox | 657:03 | 44.81 | 46.01 | 48.33 | 44.15 | 46.19 | 44.98 |
| Fox w/o Lindgren | 1187:22 | 58.40 | 58.85 | 60.40 | 60.62 | 59.83 | 58.95 |
Fairly damning metrics there over a huge sample (over which the Rangers have been good for 2 seasons and bad for 0.5 of this season so far). He's played 77% of his minutes with Fox, he's terrible without Fox, and he's a drag on Fox (Fox is much better without him). And his cap hit is $4.5M?!
This looks like a terrible bet...
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Maybe Stan pissed off the core vets enough last game by taking their ice time away, that he's included for the Rangers quest to tank. He seems like the player that would go back in the trade for Cap reasons, if you still want to add a forward.
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I’m slow. These guys are playing super high level hockey and feast on lower IQ guys blitzing towards them 1/20 of a step faster, they pass flying saucers from tape to tape.
2022-23 - present, 5v5, Lindgren without Fox
| TOI | CF% | FF% | GF% | xGF% | SCF% | HDCF% | |
| with Trouba | 201:12 | 42.37 | 40.89 | 39.13 | 43.65 | 44.34 | 45.24 |
| w/o Trouba | 455:51 | 46.14 | 48.67 | 54.05 | 44.42 | 47.27 | 44.85 |
Still underwater, except for GF% - but that GF% will eventually regress closer to the xGF%.
46% CF and 44% xGF without Fox boosting him or Trouba dragging him down isn't encouraging...
Lindgren's other common partners were:
Gustafsson (164 TOI, 44% GF, 44% xGF)
Miller (116 TOI, 33% GF, 33% xGF)
Schneider (102 TOI, 73% GF, 52% xGF)
So, I'd also take Lindgren if Schneider is coming with him...
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That was pretty quick, good stuff, confirmed my eye test about Trouba. I guess if Miller plays anywhere like Schneider it's not a bad move.2022-23 - present, 5v5, Lindgren without Fox
TOI CF% FF% GF% xGF% SCF% HDCF% with Trouba 201:12 42.37 40.89 39.13 43.65 44.34 45.24 w/o Trouba 455:51 46.14 48.67 54.05 44.42 47.27 44.85
Still underwater, except for GF% - but that GF% will eventually regress closer to the xGF%.
46% CF and 44% xGF without Fox boosting him or Trouba dragging him down isn't encouraging...
Lindgren's other common partners were:
Gustafsson (164 TOI, 44% GF, 44% xGF)
Miller (116 TOI, 33% GF, 33% xGF)
Schneider (102 TOI, 73% GF, 52% xGF)
So, I'd also take Lindgren if Schneider is coming with him...
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Im not sure that Lingren is much of an upgrade. I'd certainly like to see Chevy set the bar a little higher
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It's the 2:50 on the PK, with better results than anyone on the Jets except Sammy and Fleury that would have the most value.
Given the expected cost of each I would much rather go after Dumoulin than Lindgren.
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I'd say that's probably the better player. Dumoulin put himself back on the map after disappearing in Seattle. He's had the opportunity this year to play with some promising young defensemen. But then you look at bringing a guy who is living in California, and knows exactly no one on the team, and you have a guy who is from Minnesota and knows players on the team, it's maybe a dressing room fit too, and potentially a longer term player if he fits. Cost for the two I imagine is the same. Both have some playoff pedigree, Dumoulin went further on a better team, paired with Letang, both are UFAs.
Sounds like Waddell really wants to resign Olivier before he goes to market. He's moved up their lineup and is playing pretty solid minutes with decent production. Might have to strike him off my wish list.
But is he an upgrade on what they have now?
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In all probability better than Stanley but not better than Joshua and Samberg, don't want rentals and I sticking with that.
Our lower range rentals have actually paid off well for us. DeMelo, Nino, Names and Miller have all stayed. I think the middle class guys are often just fine staying in Winnipeg.
