Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[KingBogo]

I wouldn't pay that price either but I think if he was going to be moved that's absolutely the type of package the Blues could get. If it was just a first plus Salo sure id pay that price.

Salo is trending to be a top 4 RHD. He is only 20 with good size and a great skater. I think Chevy doesn't trade him even with a gun to his head. I think Salo is probably Chevy's most coveted prospect followed by Yager and Lambert. I think those guys are all no goes unless it is a much younger player than Paranko, with lots of team control.

 

[SUX2BU]

Again, it depends on the way these things are presented.

For instance, if I said: "My cat seems to think the Jets are going hard after Parayko, I'd do it if we could get him for a2nd and a bag of catnip" that's allowed in a thread like this because it's a rumors and speculation thread.

However, if I said "my cat knows Chevys parrot and he told him Parayko is in the bag" that would not be allowed unless the poster could vet his source with the mods.

A lot of people including big names in hockey circles throw shit at the wall to see if it sticks.

Just like in real life, you need to check sources and decide for yourself if they're trustworthy.

You can certainly point out if you think a source is shit or don't agree, it happens all the time and it's part of the discussion.

You probably shouldn't come to this thread if you're looking for only legitimate news on player movement. This thread is meant to be a fun discussion about what could happen or what you might want to happen.

What does your cat say about tall left handed d-men?

 

[Jet]

Well said.

My cat dictated it to me

 

[Gm0ney]

I mean his offensive impact has been pretty disappointing since 17/18 his defensive game is still fantastic and he has an absolute bomb. St Louis has for some completely unknown reason refused to play him with anyone capable of moving the puck and generating offensive zone pressure. Play him with an elite PMD and I bet his overall numbers look a lot better.

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Peak Parayko was great. But he's a few years past his peak and not getting any younger. We coulda had Dillon for $4M and I think we would've been better off.

 

[voyageur]

Salo is trending to be a top 4 RHD. He is only 20 with good size and a great skater. I think Chevy doesn't trade him even with a gun to his head. I think Salo is probably Chevy's most coveted prospect followed by Yager and Lambert. I think those guys are all no goes unless it is a much younger player than Paranko, with lots of team control.

The Jets draft so few players in recent years, that I think their prospects are virtually untouchable unless they ask to be traded. I'd say that all of Yager, Salo, Lambert, Chibrikov, Freij, Barlow, He and Walton are untouchable. Lucius would be too if he was a healthy prospect.

 

[Jets]

As mentioned in the pre-season, Chibrikov is an NHL player.

 

[Dirtbag151]

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[fmrdh]

Nashville is at the bottom of the league and in need of change.

ROR could be a #2C option for WPG who doesn't have trade protection. 2 more years after this at 4.5M which seems reasonable coming off a 69 point season.

 

[voyageur]

Nashville is at the bottom of the league and in need of change.

ROR could be a #2C option for WPG who doesn't have trade protection. 2 more years after this at 4.5M which seems reasonable coming off a 69 point season.

That seems a lot like the Monahan trade, but with more term. Slower player. I am watching the Avs creep up the standings now, and they have altered their goaltending, could be setting up to meet them again in the playoffs. If the Jets were in a position to play them again, I'd definitely want to keep the speed element up to match theirs.

Have a hard time seeing the Preds get rid of their #1 center, who would be #4 in center scoring here. That's a decent contract though. And a guy with some mileage, knows what it takes.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I wouldn't pay that price either but I think if he was going to be moved that's absolutely the type of package the Blues could get. If it was just a first plus Salo sure id pay that price.

No way I would include Salo. We don't gain a RHD that way. We just exchange a young one for an old one. Add a top 4 RHD and we have 2 (assuming Salo continues the way he looks so far).

The Jets draft so few players in recent years, that I think their prospects are virtually untouchable unless they ask to be traded. I'd say that all of Yager, Salo, Lambert, Chibrikov, Freij, Barlow, He and Walton are untouchable. Lucius would be too if he was a healthy prospect.

I get your point but I think any of those F could be moved for the right price. Salo and Freij are a L/R pair and the only real D prospects we have so they are pretty near untouchable.

Of course any of the F being moved doesn't mean several could be moved, but 1 or 2, depending on the return, could go.

 

[Huffer]

Trade Deadlines can be interesting for sure. Personally I'm in the camp of hoping that we re-sign Ehlers prior to something that works for the team and himself. If he's not signed, I don't see the org trading him and then he becomes an own rental which I think isn't great from an asset management perspective.

I could easily see Chevy looking for D help. I mean every playoff team looks for D help. The question will be if he looks to add depth, or possibly try and find a top 4 guy (possibly on the right to maybe move Demelo down a bit). Haven't looked at all the potential sellers to see what possibilities there might be though.

The other potential option is 2C (or 3C if you consider Lowry the 2C). Anyone they acquire has to be markedly better than Names, or else it's a waste IMO. But who they might target might depend on how far they think Lambert, Lucius, and Yager are from possibly being a true 2C. If you think one of them is ready for a longer shot at it next year, maybe you throw your hat in the ring and look into a short term player like Nelson. If you think one of them is further away, do you pivot to possibly looking at a riskier play like Norris? In the right situation I'd be interested in Norris, but he's have to be extremely cheap to acquire, and if I was Chevy I'd put in some games played conditions for at least next year (2 if I could), that would result in compensation if he can't play enough.

 

[Romang67]

Nashville is at the bottom of the league and in need of change.

ROR could be a #2C option for WPG who doesn't have trade protection. 2 more years after this at 4.5M which seems reasonable coming off a 69 point season.

I hope the Preds are stupid enough to let him go. He's still a terrific hockey player, and I doubt he'll have a stark drop-off any time soon given his play style.

 

[voyageur]

Trade Deadlines can be interesting for sure. Personally I'm in the camp of hoping that we re-sign Ehlers prior to something that works for the team and himself. If he's not signed, I don't see the org trading him and then he becomes an own rental which I think isn't great from an asset management perspective.

I could easily see Chevy looking for D help. I mean every playoff team looks for D help. The question will be if he looks to add depth, or possibly try and find a top 4 guy (possibly on the right to maybe move Demelo down a bit). Haven't looked at all the potential sellers to see what possibilities there might be though.

The other potential option is 2C (or 3C if you consider Lowry the 2C). Anyone they acquire has to be markedly better than Names, or else it's a waste IMO. But who they might target might depend on how far they think Lambert, Lucius, and Yager are from possibly being a true 2C. If you think one of them is ready for a longer shot at it next year, maybe you throw your hat in the ring and look into a short term player like Nelson. If you think one of them is further away, do you pivot to possibly looking at a riskier play like Norris? In the right situation I'd be interested in Norris, but he's have to be extremely cheap to acquire, and if I was Chevy I'd put in some games played conditions for at least next year (2 if I could), that would result in compensation if he can't play enough.

I think Namestnikov is a more valuable player than he is getting paid for. Which he might get paid for as a result.

Instead of looking around the league for placeholders, maybe keep the one that is here, especially if you are trying to find the unicorn who makes Ehlers and Perfetti a dynamic secondary scoring line.

Organizationally you could postentially move from older players like Ehlers and Appleton into younger ones like Chbrikov and Lambert, or even Lucius or Yager. That's not as scary as it has been painted in the past, because the Jets have drafted forward heavy from 2020-2023

The need for a top 4 defenseman is insulated by the development of Salomonsson. I think the only people who have a real sense of his timeline are in the organization. That's where I'd look at placeholder though. Heinola is getting regular season minutes, but he might be on the outside looking in when it gets to heavier, battle testing playoff levels, in his first season with the team in a non prospect capacity. That right side still seems thin with Miller being somewhere between depth and starting. I like the idea of Fleury and De Melo as a 3rd pairing for playoff hockey, having a guy who can play more minutes with Morrissey and push the pace even higher would be my top priority at the deadline. C/RW depth, RH shot in a defensive/ PK capacity would be me second for me. A talented enough player to be able to fill in for Namestnikov at C, or Appleton at RW, if needed.

I'd still out throw a Dach and Justin Barron trade, with a draft pick for Ehlers. That would change the look of the Jets for the playoffs. And I still think Montreal is in the best position to re-sign Ehlers, given how much Laine is enjoying playing hockey again in Montreal. Ehlers could get the same kind of treatment if he pushed that team into the playoffs past the Bruins. Barron is expendable for the Habs, as Mailloux is going to get on that team sooner or later. And they still have a 5th OA pick on RD behind him.

 

[StumpyTown]

Now, in hindsight, they just blew it on their not elite goalie. He won the Vezina in 22 but that was his only 'elite' season, 93.5 sv%. Since then ... 91.6, 91.3 and 90.8 sv%

Shesterkin makes spectacular saves a lot of the time, almost like a Hasek jr. I think people/management are too impressed with that. I personally think that the more spectacular a goalie has to look, the more out of position and flawed they are. Helle and Oettinger are perfect examples that if you are technically sound and in good position most of the time the puck simply hits you and the spectacular, while still int their arsenal, doesn't need to be displayed as often. The Ranges seem to think he's better than Helle, Vasi, Swaymen, and Oettinger. I really don't think so, but I'm also not being paid to judge hockey talent for a reason.

 

[Huffer]

I think Namestnikov is a more valuable player than he is getting paid for. Which he might get paid for as a result.

Instead of looking around the league for placeholders, maybe keep the one that is here, especially if you are trying to find the unicorn who makes Ehlers and Perfetti a dynamic secondary scoring line.

Organizationally you could postentially move from older players like Ehlers and Appleton into younger ones like Chbrikov and Lambert, or even Lucius or Yager. That's not as scary as it has been painted in the past, because the Jets have drafted forward heavy from 2020-2023

The need for a top 4 defenseman is insulated by the development of Salomonsson. I think the only people who have a real sense of his timeline are in the organization. That's where I'd look at placeholder though. Heinola is getting regular season minutes, but he might be on the outside looking in when it gets to heavier, battle testing playoff levels, in his first season with the team in a non prospect capacity. That right side still seems thin with Miller being somewhere between depth and starting. I like the idea of Fleury and De Melo as a 3rd pairing for playoff hockey, having a guy who can play more minutes with Morrissey and push the pace even higher would be my top priority at the deadline. C/RW depth, RH shot in a defensive/ PK capacity would be me second for me. A talented enough player to be able to fill in for Namestnikov at C, or Appleton at RW, if needed.

I'd still out throw a Dach and Justin Barron trade, with a draft pick for Ehlers. That would change the look of the Jets for the playoffs. And I still think Montreal is in the best position to re-sign Ehlers, given how much Laine is enjoying playing hockey again in Montreal. Ehlers could get the same kind of treatment if he pushed that team into the playoffs past the Bruins. Barron is expendable for the Habs, as Mailloux is going to get on that team sooner or later. And they still have a 5th OA pick on RD behind him.

Salo is coming for sure, but I don't think he is a guy the org is thinking is coming to help this upcoming playoff run. So I can see the Jets looking for some depth there, or look to add to the top 4 to move Demelo down like I said.

I also like Names and didn't think the trade for Monahan made sense because it wasn't a big enough upgrade IMO. So that's what I'm saying again. Either stick with Names, or get a player who is an upgrade. And that upgrade can be either rental, or longer term, and that again might be dictated on both who's possibly available, and what the org thinks about the guys in our org coming up.

As for Ehlers, if he's open to re-sign I'm all for that. If he's not, I guess the Jets might do that deal just to get something back, but IMO it doesn't make them better this playoffs. We'd be replaceing Kupari with Dach because Dach isn't beating out Names, and that's not much of an upgrade if at all. Barron might not even be an upgrade on Miller. Rather a much different trade if they go down that route. Also don't think the Habs deal for Ehlers at the TD even if he wants to sign with them.

 

[DRW204]

I think Namestnikov is a more valuable player than he is getting paid for. Which he might get paid for as a result.

Instead of looking around the league for placeholders, maybe keep the one that is here, especially if you are trying to find the unicorn who makes Ehlers and Perfetti a dynamic secondary scoring line.

Organizationally you could postentially move from older players like Ehlers and Appleton into younger ones like Chbrikov and Lambert, or even Lucius or Yager. That's not as scary as it has been painted in the past, because the Jets have drafted forward heavy from 2020-2023

The need for a top 4 defenseman is insulated by the development of Salomonsson. I think the only people who have a real sense of his timeline are in the organization. That's where I'd look at placeholder though. Heinola is getting regular season minutes, but he might be on the outside looking in when it gets to heavier, battle testing playoff levels, in his first season with the team in a non prospect capacity. That right side still seems thin with Miller being somewhere between depth and starting. I like the idea of Fleury and De Melo as a 3rd pairing for playoff hockey, having a guy who can play more minutes with Morrissey and push the pace even higher would be my top priority at the deadline. C/RW depth, RH shot in a defensive/ PK capacity would be me second for me. A talented enough player to be able to fill in for Namestnikov at C, or Appleton at RW, if needed.

I'd still out throw a Dach and Justin Barron trade, with a draft pick for Ehlers. That would change the look of the Jets for the playoffs. And I still think Montreal is in the best position to re-sign Ehlers, given how much Laine is enjoying playing hockey again in Montreal. Ehlers could get the same kind of treatment if he pushed that team into the playoffs past the Bruins. Barron is expendable for the Habs, as Mailloux is going to get on that team sooner or later. And they still have a 5th OA pick on RD behind him.

Shouldn't the Jets trying to be improving their lineup instead of making it worse?

Not sure how many PO/top 5 teams In the last 10 years trade out of their top fwds at the tdl especially for some garbage like that.

 

[Buffdog]

Trade Deadlines can be interesting for sure. Personally I'm in the camp of hoping that we re-sign Ehlers prior to something that works for the team and himself. If he's not signed, I don't see the org trading him and then he becomes an own rental which I think isn't great from an asset management perspective.

I could easily see Chevy looking for D help. I mean every playoff team looks for D help. The question will be if he looks to add depth, or possibly try and find a top 4 guy (possibly on the right to maybe move Demelo down a bit). Haven't looked at all the potential sellers to see what possibilities there might be though.

The other potential option is 2C (or 3C if you consider Lowry the 2C). Anyone they acquire has to be markedly better than Names, or else it's a waste IMO. But who they might target might depend on how far they think Lambert, Lucius, and Yager are from possibly being a true 2C. If you think one of them is ready for a longer shot at it next year, maybe you throw your hat in the ring and look into a short term player like Nelson. If you think one of them is further away, do you pivot to possibly looking at a riskier play like Norris? In the right situation I'd be interested in Norris, but he's have to be extremely cheap to acquire, and if I was Chevy I'd put in some games played conditions for at least next year (2 if I could), that would result in compensation if he can't play enough.

I was thinking about Norris as a long term 2C option. If Ehlers is hellbent on walking, his cap hit could be shifted to Norris. Of course the injury history is worrisome.

Morgan Frost is another guy I'd look at that might mesh well there.

Either of those guys would mean a shift to the wing for Lambert, which might be a good thing anyway

 

[Flair Hay]

Nashville is at the bottom of the league and in need of change.

ROR could be a #2C option for WPG who doesn't have trade protection. 2 more years after this at 4.5M which seems reasonable coming off a 69 point season.

Absolutely this should be our #1 target

That seems a lot like the Monahan trade, but with more term. Slower player. I am watching the Avs creep up the standings now, and they have altered their goaltending, could be setting up to meet them again in the playoffs. If the Jets were in a position to play them again, I'd definitely want to keep the speed element up to match theirs.

Have a hard time seeing the Preds get rid of their #1 center, who would be #4 in center scoring here. That's a decent contract though. And a guy with some mileage, knows what it takes.

Man this is crazy. Monahan is a sniper with size and an okay all around game. Fringe top 6.

O'Reilly is a shut down center with grit and great playmaking ability. Even at his older age he is still a 2nd line center on almost any team in the NHL. Great on faceoffs, can PK... he can physically handle the strength or the big centers like Hintz, Eichel, Eriksson-Ek, etc.

Who cares about peeing our pants worrying about the Avs speed. Let's build the best team we can build and beat whoever we play at our game.

Not sure if the Preds will deal him. But he seems like he would logically move to the top of the trade boards if their season is in the toilet and they want to retool quickly.

 

[kylbaz]

All in ROR and Josi