Cole's struggles started with a pointless game on Jan 11. He had one assit in 7 games before the Jets traded for Monahan on Feb 2
Yeah, hope they don’t trade another 1st, but I can honestly see Chevy having interest in Brock Nelson. That pushes Namestnikov down to the 4th and both Kupari and Gus to the press box.
. i also am a bit wary about the fit of high caliber or offensive first 1st rd prospect on the Lowry line.
Totally agree with what you're saying. That's what makes it so interesting and challenging.id rank fwd prospects with higher % of becoming an NHL C in the next couple years lower on our trade-cost list. so lambert, yaeger, lucius, and barlow and Chirbrikov probably in that order?
to your 3rd paragraph-even 2 years from now, all of connor, ehlers, vilardi and perfetti will just be starting their next deals, unless they're short term i still don't see the spots in the top-6 Wing at least for the next ~4-5ish years?
for sure they can play bottom-6 though. i dont know if that's the best use of the tier of prospect or caliber of asset.... ie: is having a 1st round caliber prospect (or trade chip) better served to move to get help higher up the line-up (lets say during that 4-5 year range i brought up) vs playing bottom-6
. (Can you tell I really don't want to trade our centre prospects lol?)Totally agree with what you're saying. That's what makes it so interesting and challenging.
If we imagine say Lambert grabbing the 2C spot and re-signing Ehlers and Connor, that leaves no room really (unless they say trade Vilardi) in the top 6 for sure. Agree that playing offensive 1st guys with Lowry isn't the way to go either. But if they deal a significant prospect or pick at the TD and then don't re-sign either or both of Ehlers and Connor, it makes the lack of upcoming depth an issue IMO as well.
I know it's not the meat of the current discussion, and while I don't really want to even "think" of the Jets without Lowry right now, there is that angle as well I think if you were the GM and trying to think out to the future (while trying to win as well). I don't see a situation where the team doesn't do everything to re-sign him as well, but we'll have to consider he'll be 33 when that new deal starts. Something to think about is how long will Lowry be able to play like current Lowry? IOW, tough and physical and big minutes against the other teams best (like basically our 2nd line as per minutes)? Crazy out there idea, but maybe when Lowry's in his mid 30's, and the Jets have 2 more centres develop (lets say Lambert and Yager) that they could run those lines as the top 3 and play Lowry's line less minutes? Or maybe you try Lowry on the wing as he ages? (not saying they should or that's it's a possibility, just like doing the thought experiment)
Nothing against Barlow (he's just the most obvious because he's a winger), but if say we had Oliver Bonk in the system instead at RHD (just picked him being a RHD drafted very close after), that would balance things out a bit for sure. Not saying they should have done that, just using it as an example.
in general i think you can assign a low-% of chance of the Jets trading out of a prospect. you can probably count on your hand how many prospects they have actually traded, ie: Foley, McGroarty, Gawanke, N. Smith, KasdorfTotally agree with what you're saying. That's what makes it so interesting and challenging.
If we imagine say Lambert grabbing the 2C spot and re-signing Ehlers and Connor, that leaves no room really (unless they say trade Vilardi) in the top 6 for sure. Agree that playing offensive 1st guys with Lowry isn't the way to go either. But if they deal a significant prospect or pick at the TD and then don't re-sign either or both of Ehlers and Connor, it makes the lack of upcoming depth an issue IMO as well.
I know it's not the meat of the current discussion, and while I don't really want to even "think" of the Jets without Lowry right now, there is that angle as well I think if you were the GM and trying to think out to the future (while trying to win as well). I don't see a situation where the team doesn't do everything to re-sign him as well, but we'll have to consider he'll be 33 when that new deal starts. Something to think about is how long will Lowry be able to play like current Lowry? IOW, tough and physical and big minutes against the other teams best (like basically our 2nd line as per minutes)? Crazy out there idea, but maybe when Lowry's in his mid 30's, and the Jets have 2 more centres develop (lets say Lambert and Yager) that they could run those lines as the top 3 and play Lowry's line less minutes? Or maybe you try Lowry on the wing as he ages? (not saying they should or that's it's a possibility, just like doing the thought experiment)
Nothing against Barlow (he's just the most obvious because he's a winger), but if say we had Oliver Bonk in the system instead at RHD (just picked him being a RHD drafted very close after), that would balance things out a bit for sure. Not saying they should have done that, just using it as an example.
who else. couple those obviously had their own unique circumstance or situation too.What a terrible break for Monahan. He signed with CBJ thinking they were on the upswing, and being reunited with his best buddy and then the tragedy and Laine getting dealt.
Pefetti has so much potential, I think for him to be included in a trade the return would have to be a bonafide 2C or a young RD with top two potential. Losing Perfetti for less would feel to me like the Panthers giving away Marchessault in the Vegas expansion draft.
7 points in 2 games. 0 points in the other 4. If he could be consistent he is a core player on this team.
Also I think people always underestimate the streakiness of point scorers. All of them go on stretches without points and then multipoint games... just how it works.
The problem is that he knows someone will give him 7 years as a UFA and the Jets biggest advantage in signing him is they are the only team that can give 8 years. No way any deal is less than 7. I’m sure Chevy would have preferred Scheifele and Helly at 5 years but that gets beat on the open market. If 7-8 years gets Ehlers at a cap hit you can live with I think you go for it. If not you look for the best possible hockey trade possible, maybe using the sign and trade option to your advantage if Ehlers is open to extending where he is traded.
Toffoli has made it clear what his priorities are at this point in his career. Winning is unimportant. What matters is getting paid as much as possible in a comfortable market with no pressure.
That’s fair.
Then you likely will have to trade him. These guys know the game. You go max term and then if you get bought out at the end you still get 2/3 of the salary the last year or 2 then you can sign where you want cheap. Term is king in your late 20s and early 30s.
