2024-25 Roster Thread #2: Midseasonnar

[mize370]

Why do consistently sing the praises of GMs and coaches until they are fired?

Why do you then pretend that you never sung their praises?

Why do you routinely state that such and such prospect will be on the roster in 3-4 years and then pretend you didn’t when those players never make the team?

Why do you carefully and selectively pick and choose stats that support your incorrect assertions while ignoring the stats that do not, let alone the eye test?

Your shtick is old, stale and tiring.

Jones is watching. He gonna get hired. Lmao

 

[ajgoal]

Why are you focused on the same mistake they’ve been making since before any of our dogs were alive and will continue to make until the heat death of the universe?

There will be no heat death. It will be a cold death.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Briere's reply specifically to how he was going to acquire top end talent for a rebuild was "Well, we drafted high the last 2 years [Gauthier and Michkov]"

So he clearly insinuated Gauthier was a top talent. Now I guess we have to rely Michkov, Drysdale, and a 2nd round pick to be the elite talent we have been hoping for.

Yeah they were calling it mission accomplished

 

[FLYguy3911]

I want to ask what Frank Nazar has done to you to never give him an ounce of credit for anything, but we’re back to McGroarty not being good.

Nazar was my BPA on the clock for the Flyers (after a trade down ofc).

I’d also pat myself on the back before I look foolish again, I had Mateychuk over Jiricek.

I had Huston higher than anyone but was still too low lol.

 

[Sombastate]

It wasn't exactly a great draft:
#6 Jiricek, #7 Korchinski #8 Kasper #9 Savoie #10 Mintyukov #11 Geekie, #12 Mateychuck #13 Nazar, #14 McGroaty
Of this group, right now the only one outplaying Cutter is Mintyukov.

Kasper is fantastic if you watch hockey.

Honestly, you really do support coaches and management right until the moment they're fired, and you also keep saying "there's kids who need a shot" who never get a shot as a way to prop up management.

You also ignore most everyone who says that this is a pathological trait of yours.

 

[Lord Defect]

We couldn’t have beaten that kakko trade? Briere should have called the second his complaint hit the internet

I know we have had a great history with players drafted second overall, but at that price I think you have to take the swing

 

[eramosat]

I'm trying my damnedest to say something positive here but it is hard

still waiting! I have zero idea of your intentions...you do like to stir though.

 

[Tripod]

Last in the league in regulation wins.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Last in the league in regulation wins.

but surely first in #culture wins.. and thats more importanter.

 

[BillDineen]

Drysdale had 12 PP assists in his age 19 season. He has 4 total since (85 games)

Edit: f it, put risto back on the pp like Buffalo did. Get that trade value up

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Last in the league in regulation wins.

We're number 1!

 

[trostol]

 

[Curufinwe]

Flyers back to .500 (22nd), but -16 in goal difference.

 

[ybnvs]

Flyers back to .500 (22nd), but -16 in goal difference.

Some call it a .500 team

I call it 7 regulation wins vs 14 regulation losses, not a .500 team.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Some call it a .500 team

I call it 7 regulation wins vs 14 regulation losses, not a .500 team.

Tied for last in RW.

 

[ponder719]

Tied for last in RW.

Well, that makes no sense at all. I thought we had at least 8 right wings, it's center where we don't have anyone.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Fine if the goal is a longshot at sneaking into the playoffs. Quite bad if you want to be more than roadkill once there.

Some call it a .500 team

I call it 7 regulation wins vs 14 regulation losses, not a .500 team.

 

[Coffe]

Overtime extra points ruining the averageness of .500 hockey...

Bring back ties! #Make .500 average again

 

[Fight4yourRight]

14-4-4. That is the perfect record for Tortsy, Jonesy, Danny and the rest of the own-fart smellers who run the show.

 

[deadhead]

We couldn’t have beaten that kakko trade? Briere should have called the second his complaint hit the internet

I know we have had a great history with players drafted second overall, but at that price I think you have to take the swing

Why? I mean who is he going to beat out at RW?
If he was a center that's a different story, that's a gamble worth taking.
But a big slow RW, meh.

 

[deadhead]

Kasper is fantastic if you watch hockey.

Honestly, you really do support coaches and management right until the moment they're fired, and you also keep saying "there's kids who need a shot" who never get a shot as a way to prop up management.

You also ignore most everyone who says that this is a pathological trait of yours.

If he's fantastic, how come in 23g he has 0-4 4 (ES)?
That's playing 13:06 at ES.
That was after putting up 71g 11-17 28 (ES) in the AHL last season.
Which is a decent D+2 season as a 19 year old, but nothing that would get people excited.

If he were a Flyer prospect, people here would be crapping all over them for taking him at #8.

Sure, good chance he develops into a much better player, but that holds true for a lot of players taken in the #11-25 range - reason players go in the top ten is they're generally deemed to be closer to NHL ready. Later in the 1st rd you tend to chose between high ceiling/high risk or high floor/lower ceiling.

 

[Beef Invictus]

If he's fantastic, how come in 23g he has 0-4 4 (ES)?
That's playing 13:06 at ES.
That was after putting up 71g 11-17 28 (ES) in the AHL last season.
Which is a decent D+2 season as a 19 year old, but nothing that would get people excited.

If he were a Flyer prospect, people here would be crapping all over them for taking him at #8.

Sure, good chance he develops into a much better player, but that holds true for a lot of players taken in the #11-25 range - reason players go in the top ten is they're generally deemed to be closer to NHL ready. Later in the 1st rd you tend to chose between high ceiling/high risk or high floor/lower ceiling.

So you haven't watched him at all or consulted stats that you know how to use. That's clear. I know why youve gone with raw totals, though. It harms your narrative in service of failed management to do a deeper dive.

 

[Lord Defect]

Last in the league in regulation wins.

Why are you complaining? That means theirs more game time which means more time you get to enjoy watching them. You should be thanking them!

 

[Lord Defect]

Why? I mean who is he going to beat out at RW?
If he was a center that's a different story, that's a gamble worth taking.
But a big slow RW, meh.

I don’t know what our line up is. I haven’t watched but 1 game this season and I couldn’t tell you who was in the ice.
With that said. Who cares who he bumps. We don’t have a Stanley cup caliber team. We have plugs who I couldn’t even name.
You move somebody, put kakko in a favorable position so he can play happy, possibly either bounce back to that 40 point season he had or better. Or not. Gauge his value between keep or trade.
At the value he went for with more of his contract bled away his value should only go up.
Hell, he’s had experience playing center. At the very least you could run that experiment.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Fine if the goal is a longshot at sneaking into the playoffs. Quite bad if you want to be more than roadkill once there.

imagine ur goal is to sneak into POs.. get eliminated in 4..

now you get to pick back at like 26th OA... sweet...

whos the absolute nonfactor we drafting ?