2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

[Beef Invictus]

Stop overrating prospects Jojo

 

[Beef Invictus]

For two guys who I was assured would barely ever play except when there was no choice, Deslauriers and EJ sure do play a lot

 

[FLYguy3911]

Never say never

We already have one guy that can skate with McDavid. Two would be unfair.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

It was inevitable, he didn't play badly, he just didn't do enough to justify keeping him up.

Great experience for the kid, practiced and played in the NHL, got to learn what he needs to improve in his game to play at the next level.

Should start next season in the NHL.

Needs to work on his offensive skill package, but when you can skate with McDavid, you know you got the goods to make it at the next level.
Biggest improvement needed is probably his shot, and to think the game faster, the windows in the CHL are going to look huge to him.

Brad Jones disagrees.

I think it's nine games played, so there was no rush.

And yes, he did skate with McDavid, 7 minutes, and wasn't overwhelmed.
That's a huge confidence builder. Knowing you can hang in there with the best.

Wow a whopping 7 minutes he hung in there you say. Get hos Flyers hall of fame banner ready.

 

[Fire Tortorella]

Was looking at Puckpedia...in the middle of a "rebuild" how are we going to have two consecutive off-seasons of basically no UFAs? The only skater with an expiring UFA contract is Johnson

 

[Beef Invictus]

I love that they used this window to see firmly where he is, strengths, weaknesses, what to work on at this level.

Yes, there are many arguments against doing this. I ignore them in this case. YOLO.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

That's a weird comparison.
Luchanko is a good passer, he just needs to work on his shot.

Wasn't a comparison, just a generalized statement that blazing speed means nothing if there's not much else to your game

 

[Juicy Pop]

Okay, so at least Couts looks healthy? That's a definite plus.

 

[NYCFlyer]

Couts was awesome. Best game from him since early last year. Hope his body holds up. Might have been the best game i've ever seen from Risto too.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Couts was awesome. Best game from him since early last year. Hope his body holds up. Might have been the best game i've ever seen from Risto too.

I think he'll hold up just fine, he's not having to be the GUY anymore he can just do his thing and defer, he looked great doing just that this game. Played awesome defensively that lead to breakouts. Risto was awesome, thought that the whole game too, seemed like he was everywhere.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

The only person that can skate with McDavid is McDavid. It's kind of his thing. The hits just keep coming

 

[renberg]

The Leafs are once again having issues. They’ve tried changing GMs and coaches with no effect. It’s obvious that the big guys need to be broken up. No club in their right mind would trade Matthews so either Marner or Nylander need to go. Marner would need an extension in order to be dealt. In return they would need some grit as well as scoring.
Could the Flyers step in here and nab an extended Marner or Nylander for something like Laughton, Konecny or Ristolainen. Obviously Toronto would need to add in order to make the money work. I included Laughton and Risto since Berube likes Laughton a lot and a RHD is a Leaf need.
Marner or Nylander could play center for the Flyers. Nylander has been open to a position change. Both have NMCs but things like that can be worked around if organizations chose to do so.
The Leafs are going to have to make a major personnel move. Just thinking if there is a way for the Flyers to benefit from it. Some team will.

 

[deadhead]

The Leafs are once again having issues. They’ve tried changing GMs and coaches with no effect. It’s obvious that the big guys need to be broken up. No club in their right mind would trade Matthews so either Marner or Nylander need to go. Marner would need an extension in order to be dealt. In return they would need some grit as well as scoring.
Could the Flyers step in here and nab an extended Marner or Nylander for something like Laughton, Konecny or Ristolainen. Obviously Toronto would need to add in order to make the money work. I included Laughton and Risto since Berube likes Laughton a lot and a RHD is a Leaf need.
Marner or Nylander could play center for the Flyers. Nylander has been open to a position change. Both have NMCs but things like that can be worked around if organizations chose to do so.
The Leafs are going to have to make a major personnel move. Just thinking if there is a way for the Flyers to benefit from it. Some team will.

Why would you want to overpay for guys who couldn't win on a talent laden team?
Matthews is the guy I'd want, but he's not going anywhere.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

There are plenty of reasons to be harsh on this team, all deserved, but being real, this was the correct decision, credit to them for doing the obviously correct thing this time. I don't mind Luchanko getting some time with the big club to get a taste of it, but he needs to play regularly, with a big offensive role, and that wasn't happening in Philly.

No. No credit to them. He shouldnt of made the team in the 1st place. Im only surprised they didnt burn a year on the ELC first before sending him back.

 

[GKJ]

The Leafs are once again having issues. They’ve tried changing GMs and coaches with no effect. It’s obvious that the big guys need to be broken up. No club in their right mind would trade Matthews so either Marner or Nylander need to go. Marner would need an extension in order to be dealt. In return they would need some grit as well as scoring.
Could the Flyers step in here and nab an extended Marner or Nylander for something like Laughton, Konecny or Ristolainen. Obviously Toronto would need to add in order to make the money work. I included Laughton and Risto since Berube likes Laughton a lot and a RHD is a Leaf need.
Marner or Nylander could play center for the Flyers. Nylander has been open to a position change. Both have NMCs but things like that can be worked around if organizations chose to do so.
The Leafs are going to have to make a major personnel move. Just thinking if there is a way for the Flyers to benefit from it. Some team will.

The Leafs are in an 82-game preseason.

Nylander just signed a big extension, he's not going anywhere.

 

[BernieParent]

The only person that can skate with McDavid is McDavid. It's kind of his thing. The hits just keep coming

Mackinnon?

 

[deadhead]

No. No credit to them. He shouldnt of made the team in the 1st place. Im only surprised they didnt burn a year on the ELC first before sending him back.

He made the team on merit, Luchanko was probably as good as Poehling or Laughton/Cates at center.
But as Briere said, they don't want him to be a 4C. They already have too many.

 

[TCTC]

The Leafs are once again having issues. They’ve tried changing GMs and coaches with no effect. It’s obvious that the big guys need to be broken up. No club in their right mind would trade Matthews so either Marner or Nylander need to go. Marner would need an extension in order to be dealt. In return they would need some grit as well as scoring.
Could the Flyers step in here and nab an extended Marner or Nylander for something like Laughton, Konecny or Ristolainen. Obviously Toronto would need to add in order to make the money work. I included Laughton and Risto since Berube likes Laughton a lot and a RHD is a Leaf need.
Marner or Nylander could play center for the Flyers. Nylander has been open to a position change. Both have NMCs but things like that can be worked around if organizations chose to do so.
The Leafs are going to have to make a major personnel move. Just thinking if there is a way for the Flyers to benefit from it. Some team will.

Marner has 11 career playoff goals. Players like MacKinnon or Tkachuk accomplish that in one season. Yet he wants to be paid like them. Not interested.

He's not even a center either. So he wouldn't even fill a hole.

 

[Magua]

Tkachuk had 15 points in 27 games with Calgary. Marner has 50 points in 57 career games (including 14 in 11 two seasons ago), but we’re supposed to believe he stinks and can’t have a good run? I love a good playoff narrative. Some people would rather have Laughton than Pettersson, Panarin, and Marner.

 

[Curufinwe]

Kind of a cute stat: Coots has 44 points in his last 82 games. Was on 39 in 81 before today.

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[Curufinwe]

If it hasn't been posted yet, the Flyers recalled Andrae and Kolosov.

Kolosov probably backs up Fedotov tomorrow and will be in after the 3rd or 4th goal against.

 

[Juicy Pop]

The Leafs are once again having issues. They’ve tried changing GMs and coaches with no effect. It’s obvious that the big guys need to be broken up. No club in their right mind would trade Matthews so either Marner or Nylander need to go. Marner would need an extension in order to be dealt. In return they would need some grit as well as scoring.
Could the Flyers step in here and nab an extended Marner or Nylander for something like Laughton, Konecny or Ristolainen. Obviously Toronto would need to add in order to make the money work. I included Laughton and Risto since Berube likes Laughton a lot and a RHD is a Leaf need.
Marner or Nylander could play center for the Flyers. Nylander has been open to a position change. Both have NMCs but things like that can be worked around if organizations chose to do so.
The Leafs are going to have to make a major personnel move. Just thinking if there is a way for the Flyers to benefit from it. Some team will.

I believe that those are players that you can only reasonably pursue in very unique circumstances. You go after them, because you have a locked-up core, the right amount of free cap and surplus assets that can be dealt without it impacting the fundamentals of the team.

It would be a case where a team lost a major piece due to a career-ending injury, but they know they have a window, even with that loss, and resources to spare, so they take the jump at what seems like a golden opportunity.

It's like the folly of replacing Pronger, it's only for teams in desperation.

We don't have that sort of situation right now, and I'd imagine that few if any do.

 

[renberg]

The Leafs are in an 82-game preseason.

Nylander just signed a big extension, he's not going anywhere.

You’re right about this. However Berube and others in the organization see that major changes need to be made. For the Leafs the results in play have been the same for years. Signing Tavares didn’t get them over the top. They’ve made changes behind the bench and in the FO with no better outcome. The only thing left for the Leafs to do if they want to improve is to change players. Players may have NMCs but they can be worked around. One of the big three has to go. It isn’t going to be Matthews so it’s either Marner or Nylander. Marner has no value w/o an extension.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I'm pretty sure every annual favorite that takes time to win has had the "the problem is they need to trade some of their best players away" narrative spun. It often ends up being untrue

 

[BiggE]

Pens lose again. They might as well start selling Hagens merch.