2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

mize370

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Everyone harping about our goalies drives me crazy. Errsson is well below a save percentage of .900
Fedotov has played what 10 games in the nhl?
And Kolosov sure is lighting up the AHL.
Stabilize the D first then we shall see what happens in goal
 

freakydallas13

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I think he wants to move Hathaway up b/c Flyers don't go to the net and set screens for dirty goals.
Couts did so and that resulted in two PP goals.
But they rarely have a man in front of the net 5x5, which means lots of easy saves.

Hathaway has speed and size, concrete hands but he's not afraid to mix it up in front of the net.

The real problem is the forward group is undersized:

Couts, Foerster, Hathaway and Tippett are the only full sized forwards.
Foerster has potential in that role, but is inexperienced.
Tippett plays "small," relies on his speed and shot and doesn't use his body on a regular basis.
Couts has always been more of a finesse guy on offense.

Deslauriers has the size and grit for the role, but he's a liability in any other role, so if you dress him, it should primarily be for O-zone faceoffs where he goes to the net.

Gauither has the size for that role, but I think he'll end up similar to Tippett, a big shooting forward who doesn't spend a lot of time in the dirty areas. You only need one "Tippett."
Hathaway does not help the top 6 score goals.
 

blackjackmulligan

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I think he wants to move Hathaway up b/c Flyers don't go to the net and set screens for dirty goals.
Couts did so and that resulted in two PP goals.
But they rarely have a man in front of the net 5x5, which means lots of easy saves.

Hathaway has speed and size, concrete hands but he's not afraid to mix it up in front of the net.

The real problem is the forward group is undersized:

Couts, Foerster, Hathaway and Tippett are the only full sized forwards.
Foerster has potential in that role, but is inexperienced.
Tippett plays "small," relies on his speed and shot and doesn't use his body on a regular basis.
Couts has always been more of a finesse guy on offense.

Deslauriers has the size and grit for the role, but he's a liability in any other role, so if you dress him, it should primarily be for O-zone faceoffs where he goes to the net.

Gauither has the size for that role, but I think he'll end up similar to Tippett, a big shooting forward who doesn't spend a lot of time in the dirty areas. You only need one "Tippett."
You also forgot to add just not that good. GH should never ever in any kind of weather play a top 6 role.

Those lines scream that the HC’s job does not depend on winning games
Or maybe Torts wants out while still collects his cash.
 

deadhead

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If I were defending the Flyers, I'd have my D-men focus on the passing lanes and let them shoot away from a distance - without screens those shots have almost no chance of succeeding.
 

Curufinwe

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Everyone harping about our goalies drives me crazy. Errsson is well below a save percentage of .900
Fedotov has played what 10 games in the nhl?
And Kolosov sure is lighting up the AHL.
Stabilize the D first then we shall see what happens in goal
No defense can fix that giant 5-hole on Fedotov
 

trostol

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I think he wants to move Hathaway up b/c Flyers don't go to the net and set screens for dirty goals.
Couts did so and that resulted in two PP goals.
But they rarely have a man in front of the net 5x5, which means lots of easy saves.

Hathaway has speed and size, concrete hands but he's not afraid to mix it up in front of the net.

The real problem is the forward group is undersized:

Couts, Foerster, Hathaway and Tippett are the only full sized forwards.
Foerster has potential in that role, but is inexperienced.
Tippett plays "small," relies on his speed and shot and doesn't use his body on a regular basis.
Couts has always been more of a finesse guy on offense.

Deslauriers has the size and grit for the role, but he's a liability in any other role, so if you dress him, it should primarily be for O-zone faceoffs where he goes to the net.

Gauither has the size for that role, but I think he'll end up similar to Tippett, a big shooting forward who doesn't spend a lot of time in the dirty areas. You only need one "Tippett."

Size is not remotely the problem. They could all be 6'9" and they'd still be getting throttled.
 

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Hathaway does not help the top 6 score goals.

I can't even figure out how Hathaway setting screens is supposed to help make more goals with their playstyle. They keep the puck in the same half of the ice overall. The goalie knows where everyone is. There is not going to be any sudden shift where opposing goalies have to take stock of Flyers locations and manage it while having sight impaired. All it would do is get Hathaway hit by shots.
 

deadhead

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I can't even figure out how Hathaway setting screens is supposed to help make more goals with their playstyle. They keep the puck in the same half of the ice overall. The goalie knows where everyone is. There is not going to be any sudden shift where opposing goalies have to take stock of Flyers locations and manage it while having sight impaired. All it would do is get Hathaway hit by shots.
They've made plenty of cross ice passes this year.
Problem is they haven't made plenty of SUCCESSFUL cross ice passes.

If your players can't execute, the next option is to execute your players.
 

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They've made plenty of cross ice passes this year.
Problem is they haven't made plenty of SUCCESSFUL cross ice passes.

If your players can't execute, the next option is to execute your players.

Could we do the same to say Lombardi, or Flahr?
 

deadhead

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Flahr is doing just fine, better since Fletcher left the room.
This is the 2nd year of what is probably a 5 year rebuild, by 2017-18 they should start to be competitive.
So far I have no problem with their drafts, especially seeing their D+1 seasons.
 

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They've made plenty of cross ice passes this year.
Problem is they haven't made plenty of SUCCESSFUL cross ice passes.

If your players can't execute, the next option is to execute your players.

I would be shocked if anything that tracks this doesn't have them near the bottom of the league.

These are the players Tortorella wanted. The players didn't assemble themselves. Why are we blaming them? Perhaps for the first time you should ponder blaming management for failing every year.
 

deadhead

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I would be shocked if anything that tracks this doesn't have them near the bottom of the league.

These are the players Tortorella wanted. The players didn't assemble themselves. Why are we blaming them? Perhaps for the first time you should ponder blaming management for failing every year.
Huh? What. These are the players they had.

The only players added since Briere took over are Poehling, Hathaway and Drysdale.
Seeler was already here.

The only player Briere drafted who is here is Michkov (Luchanko is probably headed out of town).

He's made no effort to spend assets to improve the team, it's called "rebuilding."
He's used cap room to garner more draft picks, not players.
 

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