Beef Invictus
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It is difficult to take Buffalo seriously as a cautionary tale when they keep being better.
2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging
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It is difficult to take Buffalo seriously as a cautionary tale when they keep being better.
FlyerNutter
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Where could one quite easily find top talent.
Hmmmm
As far as Couturier goes… Player is cool, contract was not. I’ve bitched about that enough at the time.
It’s so odd to start forming a narrative against him, and your new captain.
He’s going to be the guy they focus the smear campaign increasingly so on. All to take away attention from the failures of management, and Torts.
One can feel it. Giroux. Jake. Hayes. Cutter.
Is there another org that does this more?
Hmmmm
As far as Couturier goes… Player is cool, contract was not. I’ve bitched about that enough at the time.
It’s so odd to start forming a narrative against him, and your new captain.
He’s going to be the guy they focus the smear campaign increasingly so on. All to take away attention from the failures of management, and Torts.
One can feel it. Giroux. Jake. Hayes. Cutter.
Is there another org that does this more?
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bennysflyers16
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Said in postgame, lose the Habs game and we could get to double digit losing streak.
A "REBUILDING" team playing Poheling as 1 C should get Torts fired.
A "Playoff Team" playing Poheling as 1 C should get Torts fired.
Deppe down even the 2 Torts fan boys here cant defend this seriously.
A "REBUILDING" team playing Poheling as 1 C should get Torts fired.
A "Playoff Team" playing Poheling as 1 C should get Torts fired.
Deppe down even the 2 Torts fan boys here cant defend this seriously.
LegionOfDoom91
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Where could one quite easily find top talent.
Hmmmm
As far as Couturier goes… Player is cool, contract was not. I’ve bitched about that enough at the time.
It’s so odd to start forming a narrative against him, and your new captain.
He’s going to be the guy they focus the smear campaign increasingly so on. All to take away attention from the failures of management, and Torts.
One can feel it. Giroux. Jake. Hayes. Cutter.
Is there another org that does this more?
Re-signing guys like Couturier, Sanheim, & Konecny in their late 20’s with middle to terrible teams were the path of the least resistance for this organization which is always the path they hammer down. We’re paying for with Couturier for sure now, Sanheim might be getting there soon, & Konecny it’s still fresh.
Juicy Pop
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So it's a blended "synthetic goals" stat built from his personal models for 5v5 shots, PP/PK shots, xGF and impact on penalties drawn/taken?
I have no idea what to think of that.
FlyerNutter
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Sanheim I think will have value either way. He’s been fairly durable, and the style of play doesn’t scream like he should be breaking down - even though the miles are technically there.
TK I’ve got concerns about. You’re wanting him to play a prime age Gallagher/Arvidsson style to make the contract worth it. Time will tell.
I’d bounce out of Farabee ASAP if his production stabilizes any doubts of his trade value. It’s just a personal thing but I fear extensions with questions around health. They can’t extend Joel imo.
It would be a smart move to try to salvage value out of Drysdale as well, but I’m not sure that can be done.
Yes, usually with a change that large, it's probably due to shot quality, for and against.
VladDrag
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It’s a good model, similar to an xGAR/GAR. But it’s a little bit different….THERE IS ALSO ONLY 5 GAMES! All this stat talk is just flat out moot (not specifically directed at you)
freakydallas13
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I'm going to compare the Flyers to Buffalo until the end of time, and there isn't anything you can do to stop me.
mize370
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Anybody order a #1 center Poehling jersey yet?
Juicy Pop
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wtf is Buffalo constantly being brought up..who the f*** cares..
deadhead
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Well, he's playing better than Frost, who's supposed to be our 1C.
Frost is getting the most minutes, has the best wingers, yet he's off to an awful start.
At some point the excuses run out, time for him to step up and produce.
mize370
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Poehling is playing better? Lmao. Lay off the sauce dude. Torts hates Frost. That's why he keeps taking Michkov off his line. Wouldn't want those too getting any chemistry.
deadhead
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Oh come off it, Frost gets the best wings, he got them last year as well.
Michkov 36 minutes (22 away from Frost)
Tippett 30
TK 24
Foerster 10
People keep making excuses for him, but this inconsistency has plagued him the last three years.
He's not a 1C, but he needs to be more consistent as a 2C.
JojoTheWhale
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His 2nd most common linemate at 5v5 last year was Cam Atkinson.
1Cs are the only consistent ones. That’s what makes them 1Cs. Middle 6 guys are inconsistent. The way people talk about consistency makes it sound like a fetish.
Juicy Pop
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I just see it as a tiny bucket of mid-6 to bot-6 centers who all benefit from the decent pool of wingers that this team has to complement them.
They all have some merits that push their game in one way or another, but there is no standout, reliable pivot that can set the tempo for their line. They are, at their best, minimally detractive elements of a line.
It's like playing competitive Tetris with mangled pieces, whereas some teams just have game-breaking pieces that break the board.
They all have some merits that push their game in one way or another, but there is no standout, reliable pivot that can set the tempo for their line. They are, at their best, minimally detractive elements of a line.
It's like playing competitive Tetris with mangled pieces, whereas some teams just have game-breaking pieces that break the board.
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BringBackHakstol
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I hate this team
usahockey22flyers
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Utah is way way too high on that list and I would even say they dont belong. Their d is miles above flyers, they are deep up front and much more talented plus the goalie tandem as a whole is better too. I mean carcone had 20 goals and he was healthy scratch for them.
deadhead
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Tippett 412 minutesHis 2nd most common linemate at 5v5 last year was Cam Atkinson.
1Cs are the only consistent ones. That’s what makes them 1Cs. Middle 6 guys are inconsistent. The way people talk about consistency makes it sound like a fetish.
Atkinson 266
TK 261
Farabee 246
Foerster 230
Brink 188
So you agree right now Frost is a middle six center, not a top six center?
To me, he and Farabee are the most frustrating players, b/c they have top six talent but haven't put it together on a consistent basis.
Scoring is stochastic, but showing up every night and controlling play is effort, skill and focus.
That's what I mean by "consistent," posting solid performances as the norm, not a big game once a week or so.
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