2024-25 Roster…too soon?

[scorehawks]

Lardis thread already established.

 

[BHawk21]

I think with Rantanen and Marner looking average in this tourny the price on them might not get astronomical. Gives us a chance at least.

 

[Giovi]

I think with Rantanen and Marner looking average in this tourny the price on them might not get astronomical. Gives us a chance at least.

At this point, Marner only aspires to be average at the 4 nations.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I've watched Marner pretty closely, guy is afraid of any contact, and takes the easy, some times long route to get the puck if there is any threat of a Dman hitting him. Not a guy you win with.

 

[u2wojo]

I think with Rantanen and Marner looking average in this tourny the price on them might not get astronomical. Gives us a chance at least.

A 3 game tournament where Rantanen is playing on an overmatched team and Marner's on one with tons of great options at F will have no effect on how GM's (all of which have an extra 10 million in cap space) will approach free agency. I suspect most of the contracts given out will be shocking relative to what we have seen the last decade. We have a burst in the dam on the demand side (10 million in extra cap for everyone) and no real change in the supply of guys getting to UFA status. Basic economics means guys are going get paid well.

 

[BHawk21]

A 3 game tournament where Rantanen is playing on an overmatched team and Marner's on one with tons of great options at F will have no effect on how GM's (all of which have an extra 10 million in cap space) will approach free agency. I suspect most of the contracts given out will be shocking relative to what we have seen the last decade. We have a burst in the dam on the demand side (10 million in extra cap for everyone) and no real change in the supply of guys getting to UFA status. Basic economics means guys are going get paid well.

You dont think GMs will look at how these players played in big games and moments and have internal change of value on a player?

My value of Brady Tkachuk Morrissey Eichel and Hagel has gone through the roof and guys like Marner Marchand and Pettersson have gone down.

You can see the clearer distinction between players in these tournaments when these best guys are on the same teams and playing against one another.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

You dont think GMs will look at how these players played in big games and moments and have internal change of value on a player?

My value of Brady Tkachuk Morrissey Eichel and Hagel has gone through the roof and guys like Marner Marchand and Pettersson have gone down.

You can see the clearer distinction between players in these tournaments when these best guys are on the same teams and playing against one another.

For a guy like Marner, you could have figured this out years ago. He does it every single playoffs. It’s nothing new for him.

 

[u2wojo]

For a guy like Marner, you could have figured this out years ago. He does it every single playoffs. It’s nothing new for him.

Leaf's "Big Four" career playoff points per game:

Marner .88
Mathews .87
Nylander .79
Taveres .74 (.63 as a Leaf)

 

[pvr]

Leaf's "Big Four" career playoff points per game:

Marner .88
Mathews .87
Nylander .79
Taveres .74 (.63 as a Leaf)

Kane regular season 1.06, playoffs 0.97
Toews regular season 0.83, playoffs 0.87 (including down years last two playoffs)

That’s how it’s done.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Leaf's "Big Four" career playoff points per game:

Marner .88
Mathews .87
Nylander .79
Taveres .74 (.63 as a Leaf)

How do elimination games

 

[Kevin Musto]

I don't know why Kyle doesn't get involved with stuff like this. Free upgrade for Rockford, a team that could use scoring.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Leaf's "Big Four" career playoff points per game:

Marner .88
Mathews .87
Nylander .79
Taveres .74 (.63 as a Leaf)

Marner
regular season pts/gm - 1.15
playoffs pts per game - 0.87
difference of - (-0.28)

Matthews
regular season pts/gm - 1.13
playoffs pts per game - 0.88
difference of - (-0.25)

Nylander
regular season pts/gm - 0.88
playoffs pts per game - 0.80
difference of - (-0.08)

Tavares (with Leafs)
regular season pts/gm - 0.95
playoffs pts per game - 0.63
difference of - (-0.32)

For reference

Kane
regular seasonpts/gm 1.06
playoffs pts/gm0.97
difference of - (-0.09)

Toews
regular season pts/gm0.83
playoffs pts/gm 0.87
difference of - (+0.04)