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2024-25 Roster…too soon?

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RememberTheRoar said:
Reichel is softer than Angel Soft Strome though. That’s clearly not a fit on this team, and definitely not on the third line
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Disparaging Strome remark aside, this is correct.

It's honestly surprising that Davidson has held on to him as long as he has. Reichel is a bit speedier than average, but otherwise I don't see how he fits Davidson's vision for this team.
 
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statswatcher said:
my thought is kurashev was good with bedard. he's also shown chemistry with hall, so i'd want him on a powerplay line with one of those guys.
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Agree with this. Anyway we can get Hall going to justify a decent return at the TD is a positive, and the gravy is hopefully adding a 2nd legit NHL scoring lines which might take some pressure off of Bedard.
 
Murphy really seems like the ideal guy to be looking to trade. With McCabe's retention spot expiring after this year, they can likely roll that into Murphy for an additional season after this one. If they can retain him at 50 %, I think that's a $2.2 million cap hit for a Middle 3 Righthanded Defenseman, which I think can return something of value. Wonder if Bowman would be interested in bringing him to Edmonton?

For the Hawks, in addition to what they get, I think clearing a spot for next year is also important. As is, Martinez is the only expiring contract amongst the D and I think they have enough guys chomping at the bit for a roster spot. All those LHD should be focusing up on playing on their off-hand (I noticed Del Mastro played his off-hand first AHL game, I know Kaiser and Allan have in the past as well), and then you got Levshunov as a Number 2 overall pick likely pushing for a spot next year, and I think a good chance the Hawks sign Rinzel. A good year from Crevier and he could be re-signed/a potential option for a 6/7 as well.
 
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WarriorofTime said:
Murphy really seems like the ideal guy to be looking to trade. With McCabe's retention spot expiring after this year, they can likely roll that into Murphy for an additional season after this one. If they can retain him at 50 %, I think that's a $2.2 million cap hit for a Middle 3 Righthanded Defenseman, which I think can return something of value. Wonder if Bowman would be interested in bringing him to Edmonton?

For the Hawks, in addition to what they get, I think clearing a spot for next year is also important. As is, Martinez is the only expiring contract amongst the D and I think they have enough guys chomping at the bit for a roster spot. All those LHD should be focusing up on playing on their off-hand (I noticed Del Mastro played his off-hand first AHL game, I know Kaiser and Allan have in the past as well), and then you got Levshunov as a Number 2 overall pick likely pushing for a spot next year, and I think a good chance the Hawks sign Rinzel. A good year from Crevier and he could be re-signed/a potential option for a 6/7 as well.
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Vlasic-Jones
Kaiser-Martinez
Allan-Brodie
Phillips

I think you would have to sign Schultz or Shattenkirk or get a D back in a trade for the rest of this year.
 
WarriorofTime said:
Murphy really seems like the ideal guy to be looking to trade. With McCabe's retention spot expiring after this year, they can likely roll that into Murphy for an additional season after this one. If they can retain him at 50 %, I think that's a $2.2 million cap hit for a Middle 3 Righthanded Defenseman, which I think can return something of value. Wonder if Bowman would be interested in bringing him to Edmonton?

For the Hawks, in addition to what they get, I think clearing a spot for next year is also important. As is, Martinez is the only expiring contract amongst the D and I think they have enough guys chomping at the bit for a roster spot. All those LHD should be focusing up on playing on their off-hand (I noticed Del Mastro played his off-hand first AHL game, I know Kaiser and Allan have in the past as well), and then you got Levshunov as a Number 2 overall pick likely pushing for a spot next year, and I think a good chance the Hawks sign Rinzel. A good year from Crevier and he could be re-signed/a potential option for a 6/7 as well.
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Murphy to Edmonton almost makes too much sense. They need the help on defense BADLY. The Bowman connection. This is the last year they have until the Draisaitl caphit jumps from 8.5M to 14M. Bouchard is at 3.9M this year and that's going to at least double for next year.

This might be the last time Edmonton has a shot with this core, and we haven't even talked about McDavid's extension or what they do in goal. They're already the oldest team in the league and they're painfully slow this year.

I'd do whatever it takes to get their 2026 first rounder since they've already traded away the 2025 pick, and I'd rather have the 2026 pick anyway when all those new cap hits start to kick in.
 
Problem with Oilers/Murphy trade is that Oilers will have to include Kulak coming back in deal for cap/roster reasons

Kulak has another year left at $2.75M and is lefty

Hawks dont need a LD signed at $2.75M for another year with our D depth in pipeline.

Hawks or Oilers would have to find someone to take on Kulak and well his diminishing performance since going to Edmonton wont make that an easy move

And if Hawks are taking back Kulak then we should not be retaining 50% on Murphy or will require an additional asset on top of 1st
 
Podkolzin in the top 6.... yikes. That is just as bad as their bottom 4 blue liners.
 
statswatcher said:
what was the last season a stan bowman managed team iced a competitive nhl blueline? don't know that any of the colliton years count. 15-16?
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Cant really blame Bowman for situation he literally just inherited months ago

Which included outgoing GM handing out contracts before he left to further cap restrain team and left them wide open for the offer sheets
 
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Blackhawkswincup said:
Cant really blame Bowman for situation he literally just inherited months ago

Which included outgoing GM handing out contracts before he left to further cap restrain team
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yeah i get that i'm being unfair, but i feel it's an evocative exercise nonetheless.
 
Mrfenn92 said:
Murphy half retention for emberson and a 2027 2rd pick and a 2028 3rd pick
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We are not doing quantity trades...we have made to many picks in recent drafts and have many more queded up. I am not a big fan of Emberson so view this proposal as a hodgepodge late 2nds/3rds and I want a 1st if we are retaining on Murphy for next season or we just hang on to him his last season and he can partner with a young LHD partner to smooth the transition to the NHL.

Murphy half retained for '26 1st and '25 St Louis 3rd seems like a Stunley Blowman special to get one of "his" guys. Let's hope Murphy manages to be healthy at the TDL.
 
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u2wojo said:
We are not doing quantity trades...we have made to many picks in recent drafts and have many more queded up. I am not a big fan of Emberson so view this proposal as a hodgepodge late 2nds/3rds and I want a 1st if we are retaining on Murphy for next season or we just hang on to him his last season and he can partner with a young LHD partner to smooth the transition to the NHL.

Murphy half retained for '26 1st and '25 St Louis 3rd seems like a Stunley Blowman special to get one of "his" guys. Let's hope Murphy manages to be healthy at the TDL.
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Don’t think Murphy retained returns a first
 
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Blackhawkswincup said:
Honestly if Sam O'Reilly would be possible to get instead of 1st

1) Bowman didn't draft him
2) He is years away so Oilers win window would make him potential asset to move to improve roster

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I'd rather gamble on the 2026 first rounder turning into gold. Terrible defense as is, depth took a big hit, they have basically no young players coming up in the system, and their big horses have played a ton of hockey the last few seasons.
 
what are they going to do with Reichel. Maybe a trade for underperforming players each way. I was thinking they would sit a vet on night # 2 of a back to back. there is now way he is getting thru waivers. young guys do not do well the first game back after sitting 2 weeks.
 
kmwtrucks said:
what are they going to do with Reichel. Maybe a trade for underperforming players each way. I was thinking they would sit a vet on night # 2 of a back to back. there is now way he is getting thru waivers. young guys do not do well the first game back after sitting 2 weeks.
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Too bad Podkolzin already got traded, he actually might be able to be useful in the bottom 6.
 
GIADF said:
I'd rather gamble on the 2026 first rounder turning into gold. Terrible defense as is, depth took a big hit, they have basically no young players coming up in the system, and their big horses have played a ton of hockey the last few seasons.
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Maybe but O'Reilly is not a bad prospect to get and he would join the group of guys for down line who could either become part of Hawks in future or used as trade chip when Hawks begin to get back into contention

belfour30 said:
Too bad Podkolzin already got traded, he actually might be able to be useful in the bottom 6.
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If Podkolzin continues to not produce maybe we can get a Reichel/Podkolzin swap down line
 
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