Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[dredeye]

Soto sweepstakes getting potentially batshit;

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858664698805178383

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858680082187120860

So we are out of Soto with those dollars so onto stuff we can get in on

 

[Anthrax442]

So we are out of Soto with those dollars so onto stuff we can get in on

We were never in

 

[stats1]

There was no way Shatkins was going to pay Soto 700 million when they won’t pay their own guy 300 million. This BS talk about the Jays being a dark horse was a media/leverage play by Boras. We were never in this lol

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

We're not getting Soto. There's maybe a 1% chance he comes here. So just give him a ridiculous offer like 13 years a 70M just to raise the bidding and screw the Yankees and Dodgers. Meanwhile, have our real number 1 option ready to sign. lol

 

[Dr.Funk]

So we are out of Soto with those dollars so onto stuff we can get in on

Just like with Ohtani, the Sota money was from a different budget. If we don't land Soto that money is not available to spread to others.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Canada4Gold]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1859020855428383087

Nobody protected from the rule 5. Didn't really think there would be. Most of the players that might have been in consideration had pretty bad years

 

[Dough72]

trade George Springer's contract for a pair of overpaid relievers who are still really good. Send the other team prospects you don't care about if necessary. Solves most of the bullpen issues essentially for free.

 

[Tony Romo]

baseball has to figure out this FA, needs more excitement. Allow tampering!

 

[Killer Orcas]

trade George Springer's contract for a pair of overpaid relievers who are still really good. Send the other team prospects you don't care about if necessary. Solves most of the bullpen issues essentially for free.

Whose giving us two really good relievers for a really bad RF? When I say bad RF I say as in bad hitter he's still a good defensive outfielder.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[shortfuze]

There was no way Shatkins was going to pay Soto 700 million when they won’t pay their own guy 300 million. This BS talk about the Jays being a dark horse was a media/leverage play by Boras. We were never in this lol

How do you know if they are or not?

 

[Discoverer]

Whose giving us two really good relievers for a really bad RF? When I say bad RF I say as in bad hitter he's still a good defensive outfielder.

Yeah, and what team does a move like that even make sense for?

 

[Dough72]

Whose giving us two really good relievers for a really bad RF? When I say bad RF I say as in bad hitter he's still a good defensive outfielder.

whoever has a pair of overpaid relievers they don't care about. And would be just as fine overpaying an outfielder instead if he comes with some prospects. Odds are there is a good fit out there somewhere that doesn't cost much at all in the way of prospects.

 

[Bjindaho]

whoever has a pair of overpaid relievers they don't care about. And would be just as fine overpaying an outfielder instead if he comes with some prospects. Odds are there is a good fit out there somewhere that doesn't cost much at all in the way of prospects.

Short of taking on Taijuan Walker, there are no relievers that come close to what you think this will do.

As of today, Chad Green has the 9th highest reliever salary for 2025 and there's nobody in the top 20 that would actually be a positive for our BP (Walker was in the bullpen because he was pitching so poorly).

 

[Dough72]

Short of taking on Taijuan Walker, there are no relievers that come close to what you think this will do.

As of today, Chad Green has the 9th highest reliever salary for 2025 and there's nobody in the top 20 that would actually be a positive for our BP (Walker was in the bullpen because he was pitching so poorly).

well then you ruined my strategy and the Jays are going to miss the playoffs again. Hope you are happy with yourself.

 

[Bjindaho]

well then you ruined my strategy and the Jays are going to miss the playoffs again. Hope you are happy with yourself.

I am not trying to ruin your strategy. I despise the payroll situation but have accepted Springer as a sunk cost.

There are ways to fix the team, but having a management group that sucks with money and negotiating makes that harder.

 

[Killer Orcas]

well then you ruined my strategy and the Jays are going to miss the playoffs again. Hope you are happy with yourself.

It's a great strategy but you have to have a willing dance partner and I and others just don't believe there is one out there. You find one by all means suggest it. Cheers

 

[Dough72]

hold on the strategy is still alive. Trade for 1 bad bullpen contract like Chad Green and 1 bad starter contract.

 

[Ale Brew]

whoever has a pair of overpaid relievers they don't care about. And would be just as fine overpaying an outfielder instead if he comes with some prospects. Odds are there is a good fit out there somewhere that doesn't cost much at all in the way of prospects.

Name one team?

It would be wonderful for the Jays but it’s completely far fetched.

 

[phillipmike]

MLB GM states to insider Jim Bowden that the Toronto Blue Jays will be trading Vladimir Guerrero Jr

MLB GM states to insider Jim Bowden that the Toronto Blue Jays will be trading Vladimir Guerrero Jr for a franchise changing return

www.bluejaysinsider.com

Although it seems like a no-brainer that the Jays will ultimately work out a big extension with Vladdy this upcoming year, at least one anonymous general manager does not think so.

In a recent article by MLB insider Jim Bowden of The Athletic, he revealed that one National League GM believes that the Jays will change their mind and actually trade Guerrero as a potential fallout of the free agent market and its happenings. -Eng

Jays leaking this to get Vladdy to take less? NL GM (Cherrington) doing us favors?

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Don't know who and/or what to believe, but if the Jays do indeed trade Vladdy, I might need to take a break from the team. I'd have so much resentment towards the ownership group and the two figures running this team who have let this drag out for far too long.

 

[Kurtz]

The variance on the rumours this offseason is pretty wild. We're ranging from a team apparently willing to go all-in and drop a cool bil on Soto to a team that's unwilling/unable to re-sign its home grown superstar.

Although I guess nothing can beat last year where we went from being the frontrunners on Ohtani and Soto to getting KK and IKF.

 

[saska sault]

Don't know who and/or what to believe, but if the Jays do indeed trade Vladdy, I might need to take a break from the team. I'd have so much resentment towards the ownership group and the two figures running this team who have let this drag out for far too long.

Agreed... the fact this team went from having the big hype of having 3 Hall of Famers off spring, and the big money invested in Springer, Ryu, Gausman, Bassit, etc... to have Biggio flame out, Bo regress and maybe want out and not sign Vlad who is the best homegrown player since? Inexcusable and would make this franchise look like they have even less direction then most fans already believed (almost none).

Be left with young controllable pretty average mid 20's guys, overpriced vets you can't get much for and no young star from the system signed, and none signed from free agency/trade.

 

[shaner8989]

What if they trade VLAD for a massive haul. I’d be all in. Could also use that money on other assets.