Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Puckstuff]

Cubs Reportedly "Determined" To Trade Seiya Suzuki Or Cody Bellinger

The Cubs are "determined" to trade one of first baseman/outfielder Cody Bellinger or outfielder Seiya Suzuki, reports Joel Sherman of …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

I don't know what Suzuki would cost, but I would do a Suzuki trade without question if the pieces could be lined up.

A really nice contract as well.

Higher OPS+ than Santander, and only owed $36 million, while Santander is set to make over $120-150 million? Yeah, I'd make that move without hesitation if the price is reasonable.

 

[Dr.Funk]

 

[phillipmike]

Very cheap. We took their Kiermaier and so only fair they take our Jano.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Big year for Jano incoming

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[trellaine201]

Personally if I was owner why would you let these two “desperate “ management team take risky moves? I wouldn’t unless it was reasonable.

 

[Dr.Funk]

 

[Scotianhab]

No way he goes to Toronto. My bet is still the Mets. Cohen has money to burn.

 

[Suntouchable13]

No way he goes to Toronto. My bet is still the Mets. Cohen has money to burn.

Yes, that’s the best team for him to be on from a Jays POV (unless they actually land him). No Yanks or Red Sox, please!

 

[Discoverer]

No way he goes to Toronto. My bet is still the Mets. Cohen has money to burn.

Obviously getting Soto would be amazing, but I would be pretty happy if he went back to the NL and the Jays made a couple other good moves instead.

 

[Bjindaho]

Yes, that’s the best team for him to be on from a Jays POV (unless they actually land him). No Yanks or Red Sox, please!

From all reports, it sounds like NYM, Boston and the Jays have the best offers in right now.

It is very likely at this point that the Jays will offer more money than the other two, but it may include significant deferred money.

 

[Suntouchable13]

These f***ers probably think they can come into ST again after their big addition was Carlos Santana and say how they believe in the core and the coaches lol. No, that won’t cut it this time. There is lots of talent out there, figure out how to get some of that talent here.

 

[dredeye]

Why? It isn’t your money.

Also the BlueJays have next to no financial commitments after 2026. Spend it.

Worst and most annoying answer going. Because it affects how the spend around him. It’s not that hard to understand

 

[dredeye]

When has letting a GM, who you are considering firing, play out another season EVER benefitted the team?

The minute you are thinking if this season doesn't go well, I'm getting rid of these guys, you might as well just get rid of them.

This is such a common mistake, it amazes me that it is still happening in 2024.

A dead duck gm trying to save his job is absolutely a worst case scenario for any team. Bad trades, overpays and bad contracts on their way.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

I guess don't count out those Dodgers yet

 

[trellaine201]

At least he will be in the west and no guarantees you win. I know last year was an anomali imo.

 

[horner]

These f***ers probably think they can come into ST again after their big addition was Carlos Santana and say how they believe in the core and the coaches lol. No, that won’t cut it this time. There is lots of talent out there, figure out how to get some of that talent here.

I believe they are going to piss of Vlady when they try to low ball him.
They should have stayed away from the Soto contract talks

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Scotianhab]

Same as Ohtani the Jays will be the bridesmaid but never the bride.

 

[Dr.Funk]

 

[Puckstuff]

Big year for Jano incoming

8.5!? Wow, what a steal for the Rays. They always seem to find a good bargain don’t they.

 

[MK78]

Big year for Jano incoming

Could be, after all they'll be playing in a minor league park.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Will Juan Soto’s Massive Contract Get Done Before Winter Meetings?

The Baseball Insiders

Streamed live 3 hours ago

Join Robert Murray and Adam Weinrib on The Baseball Insiders Podcast as they dive into the biggest MLB rumors! Is Juan Soto on the verge of landing a historic $750M contract, and will it happen before the Winter Meetings? Plus, what other deals and trades should we expect as the MLB offseason kicks into high gear? They’ll also break down Garrett Crochet buzz and the growing Cubs-Mariners trade connection.

00:00 - Welcome to The Baseball Insiders Podcast!

05:09 - Juan Soto Signing Soon?

12:41 - Cody Bellinger Market

15:06 - Blue Jays Payroll

17:30 - Could Anything Else Get Done at Winter Meetings?

20:03 - Garrett Crochet Buzz

21:45 - Clay Holmes Market

25:10 - Could Tyler Anderson and/or Reid Detmers get traded?

26:25 - What’s the Padres plan for SS?

27:50 - What are the Diamondbacks Plans?

 

[Woodman19]

All this talk of Ohtani money and he probably signs for $500M or less. Boras just negotiating through the media.

 

[Blitzkrug]

All this talk of Ohtani money and he probably signs for $500M or less. Boras just negotiating through the media.

In most cases i would agree but Soto's age kinda changes the game here, or so to speak.

Most free agents usually that benchmark in their late 20s/early 30s which factors into negotiations somewhat since you usually only see 10 years as the upper limit on term.

Soto being so young, relatively speaking is more than enough to throw on more years which is why you're seeing the money climb up into the 6, or perhaps even 700s. He won't be making more than Shohei annually but he will still get close to his total number just on this alone imo.

If he was this good at age 30, he probably gets a much more familiar 10/500 rather than 14/700 as we've seen rumored.