2024-25 Kraken Roster discussion
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Stranger things have happened. But I just don't see how a competing team would trade for him.
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Yeah I think any hope for a trade would require a decent bit of desperation from the receiving team, which Carolina may or may not be feeling, and equally how much retention Francis and his superiors are willing to absorb in a deal.
Given the Kraken have never really done a retention deal, it’s hard to know where they land on it?
With the stuff about Gourde earlier today, it’s hard to shake the vibe that they’re still running this team as a marketing endeavor rather than a serious Stanley Cup pursuit?
Fistfullofbeer
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That did run through my head too. I would not be shocked if the reasoning is, "Yanni is a leader. The fans love him."
The Marquis
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What stuff about Gourde? I don’t see anything in the real news. Trade rumors? Discontent? Low ball offer from club?
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The Eberle news suck and it's even "at least three months" according to the news by the team.
Well, like I've said before.
If this team's anywhere near the playoff picture I wouldn't be surprised if they kept him.
And if you do that, you probably want to extend him to not lose him for nothing.
Though, it doesn't really make any sense given his age, dip in productaion and, like you've said, with all those forwards getting closer to the NHL down in CV.
But given how this team has operated and what Francis has said(make the playoffs every year) I'm not that surprised cause the plan seems to be to be "competitive" ending up as a playoff bubble team(unless some crazy trade happens or a prospect or two goes through the roof) for the foreseable future.
Sure.
It's just that the other side has a pretty good laugh about it.
Especially the Canes, who're not throwing out money on anything especially goaltending.
On top of that Gru's injury prone himself and they don't need more goalies like that.
Elliotte Friedman has said that the team probably wants to keep and re-sign him.
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Well, like I've said before.
If this team's anywhere near the playoff picture I wouldn't be surprised if they kept him.
And if you do that, you probably want to extend him to not lose him for nothing.
Though, it doesn't really make any sense given his age, dip in productaion and, like you've said, with all those forwards getting closer to the NHL down in CV.
But given how this team has operated and what Francis has said(make the playoffs every year) I'm not that surprised cause the plan seems to be to be "competitive" ending up as a playoff bubble team(unless some crazy trade happens or a prospect or two goes through the roof) for the foreseable future.
Sure.
It's just that the other side has a pretty good laugh about it.
Especially the Canes, who're not throwing out money on anything especially goaltending.
On top of that Gru's injury prone himself and they don't need more goalies like that.
Elliotte Friedman has said that the team probably wants to keep and re-sign him.
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If Gourde can play 4th line and at the level he’s at for 2 more years and at a discount, I’m down.
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He'd be insane to do either of those things (sign for only 2 years, or take a discount)
Leaf-fan here! What is take of Seattle fans on Gourde, is he someone you'd be willing to part with? For what kind of price?
Toronto would most likely need a heavy retention, up to 50% - with salary coming back, again most likely Kämpf... who although is still very serviceable and a really good 4th line, 100% defensive + shorthanded situation player, makes a bit too much to be playing in a contending teams fourth line.
What are Seattle's needs? For example, Toronto has Niemelä, who is very nearly ready for NHL duty, a puck-moving defenceman who is a very good skater. Perhaps a pick on top of him and Kämpf?
Toronto would most likely need a heavy retention, up to 50% - with salary coming back, again most likely Kämpf... who although is still very serviceable and a really good 4th line, 100% defensive + shorthanded situation player, makes a bit too much to be playing in a contending teams fourth line.
What are Seattle's needs? For example, Toronto has Niemelä, who is very nearly ready for NHL duty, a puck-moving defenceman who is a very good skater. Perhaps a pick on top of him and Kämpf?
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Fuhrious
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Yeah exactly, something Utah does that I wish Francis / Hakstol / Bylsma would do? Play the kids, especially if your "greasy" vets are gonna come out flat every time they play a team with a winning record. Play. The. Kids.
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Kraken up.
Sigh. “With the thirteenth pick in the 2025 NHL Entry Draft….”
Well said. “Beautiful jersey”. Thanks. “What’s their record?” Um.
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So it took all of 3 games for the Sprong story to stop being "fun". This is his level of play, and I'd rather see Winterton (or even Wright, if the alternative is the press box) on the RW of that second line.
This is the sort of crap that makes me think this team is a giant marketing experiment.
This is the sort of crap that makes me think this team is a giant marketing experiment.
Kevinsane
Kraken up.
Fistfullofbeer
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Sprong brings "excitement" in both zones. Once is good and the other is bad. Francis made the decision being well aware of that so that kind of shows his level of desperation.
I would like to see Winterton bought up but I bet his 1 game with 0 points and a -3 did enough to convince Francis that he does not deserve more time. The other prospects doing good in the AHL are Firkus and Sale and I definitely don't think they are ready for NHL minutes.
Roed started slow but has been better off late. Morrison has just been .. meh. So we are not exactly overflowing with callup options who can help right now. Which is what I feel like they want.
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Getting rid of gru won't do a thing to solve our lack of scoring at times when our goalies are having a good game.
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Winterton should be the next call up and hoping he gets his permanent shot sooner than later
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