2024-25 EPL Season

Jack Straw

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Nobody should be forced to wear something they don’t believe in
So if he doesn’t want to wear it, fine. That doesn’t mean that the whole team should change their plans. If he wants to stand out as being the only one not wearing it, let him stand out.
 

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Wonder how people would feel if a player refused to play for the 11 PL teams that have gambling companies as their main shirt sponsor due to a religious opposition to gambling.
The same people that complain about the rainbows won’t say a peep about the gambling. Hell Mazraoui plays for a team that literally has a devil on its crest. If he doesn’t want to wear the rainbow he shouldn’t have to, but also these people need to stop pretending it’s about religion. One guy not wanting to do it shouldn’t be blocking everyone else from doing it. And they certainly shouldn’t be martyred for it either
 

bluesfan94

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Nobody should be forced to wear something they don’t believe in
Gay people aren't something that you believe in. They are a fact of life. The campaign is saying that gay people shouldn't be harassed for being gay. Which, if Mazraoui firmly believes gay people should be subject to targeted harassment, he should say it with his whole chest and rightfully be called out as a bigot.

Would you take this tact if United had a gay player and Mazroui refused to take the pitch with him? Would you say “no one should force him” either?
Or, alternatively, if a United player refused to wear a warmup kit that said Islamophobia is bad?

Wonder how people would feel if a player refused to play for the 11 PL teams that have gambling companies as their main shirt sponsor due to a religious opposition to gambling.
Man United has an official gambling partner and an official wine partner, but I guess Mazraoui decided to draw the line at saying that harassing gay people is wrong.
 
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bluesfan94

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Apparently the other players turned it down in end because they didn't want Mazraoui to become targeted.
Yeah, it would suck to be subjected to targeted harassment. They should have a campaign about that. Perhaps they could focus on minority groups that are often subject to targeted harassment. One such group that comes to mind is gay people.
 

Jack Straw

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Yeah, it would suck to be subjected to targeted harassment. They should have a campaign about that. Perhaps they could focus on minority groups that are often subject to targeted harassment. One such group that comes to mind is gay people.
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Yeah, it would suck to be subjected to targeted harassment. They should have a campaign about that. Perhaps they could focus on minority groups that are often subject to targeted harassment. One such group that comes to mind is gay people.
A United statement to The Athletic read: “Manchester United welcomes fans from all backgrounds, including members of the LGBTQ+ community, and we are strongly committed to the principles of diversity and inclusion.

“We demonstrate these principles through a range of activities, including support for our Rainbow Devils supporters’ club, and campaigns to celebrate our LGBTQ+ fans and combat all forms of discrimination.

“Players are entitled to hold their own individual opinions, particularly in relation to their faith, and these may sometimes differ from the club’s position.”
This year, United were only planning a walk-out jacket but Morocco international Mazraoui, a £15m summer signing from Bayern Munich, told his team-mates he was not prepared to wear the outfit, citing his Muslim faith as the reason. The team then decided that no players would wear the tracksuit so that Mazraoui would not be the only one seen publicly to be refusing to wear it. The decision was taken a matter of hours before the game on Sunday.

I think as a compromise, maybe have Bruno as the captain wearing the outfit for the walk-out. :dunno:
 

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Gay people aren't something that you believe in. They are a fact of life. The campaign is saying that gay people shouldn't be harassed for being gay. Which, if Mazraoui firmly believes gay people should be subject to targeted harassment, he should say it with his whole chest and rightfully be called out as a bigot.


Or, alternatively, if a United player refused to wear a warmup kit that said Islamophobia is bad?


Man United has an official gambling partner and an official wine partner, but I guess Mazraoui decided to draw the line at saying that harassing gay people is wrong.
So by refusing to wear LGBTQ jersey, that means what?

That they are harassing gay people or supporting it?
 

bluesfan94

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So by refusing to wear LGBTQ jersey, that means what?

That they are harassing gay people or supporting it?
That they don't believe gay people shouldn't be harassed. In other words, yes, they are tacitly supporting the harassment of gay people by stating they don't believe it's a bad thing.
 

Power Man

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That they don't believe gay people shouldn't be harassed. In other words, yes, they are tacitly supporting the harassment of gay people by stating they don't believe it's a bad thing.
Not necessarily

Kramer did’t wear the ribbon even though he walked to support a cause.
He didn’t want to be forced to wear a ribbon to prove he was supporting a cause he legitimately believed in.
They beat the crap out of him because he stuck to his guns.

Ah Cedric and Bob, such underused characters imp
 

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