Prospect Info: [2024 - 21st] Michael Hage, Chicago Steel (USHL), Committed to U of Michigan

[Kudo Shinichi]

Still lucky the player he wanted was on the board. Imagine the team that had Sennecke high on their list and poof, gone early. Stating Bob's list around the 24th pick isn't a valid argument. It's an aggregate of a dozen different views where one of them could've had him at 30th while another had him at 15th.

You can argue over this all you want, but I'm simply taking what management has said. You're acting as if there was zero chance someone would've taken him earlier when he could've very well have been taken earlier.

Again, you can say that for most players in the draft.

Was every other team who had picks around 21 also lucky? I'm sure they all got one of the players they coveted at that position, and it is possible that the player wouldn't have been available.

 

[waitin425]

Thus kid is legit

 

[KevSkillz4]

Cole Caufield as a 18 years old in same league show high promising.

Michael Hage at this moment, same league and same age, show aswell high promising.

Seriously, the 2024 draft will be huge for the future of this team. Demidov and Hage will transform the forward group!!

 

[WeThreeKings]

Having Hutson, Demidov, Hage, Dach and Suzuki as players who can f***ing carry a puck in the zone and make a play.. what a future dynamic.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

They moved up in the draft to be in a spot where Hage could be available. I wouldn't call that luck.

Hughes is on record as saying that he was trying to move up a little higher because he didn't think that they had a good shot at getting Hage at 21......so yes, even by his own admission he got lucky.

 

[Gally11]

It's actually reassuring to know Hughes is not only good at his job, but he's also lucky. He was lucky with both Demidov and Hage, and to me, that bodes well for the future. You want a GM who is also lucky.

Calculated risk, we also have no idea how many times so far those calculations were off but so far it’s worked on Hutson (picking later allowed us Beck + Hutson), Demidov, Hage

It’s cool to see behind the scenes the odds they put on it (25% on Hage)

Having Hutson, Demidov, Hage, Dach and Suzuki as players who can f***ing carry a puck in the zone and make a play.. what a future dynamic.

Better than just having Scott Gomez

Sorry to ruin your Sunday morning

 

[jaffy27]

Hughes is on record as saying that he was trying to move up a little higher because he didn't think that they had a good shot at getting Hage at 21......so yes, even by his own admission he got lucky.

The only luck was the Kings allowing us to move up to 21…all 20 teams drafting 1-20 had dozens of scouts, thousand of hours, hundreds of days and millions of dollars to figure out who they wanted….it wasn’t late rounds picks where it’s almost impossible to project, they all had plenty of time to pick who they wanted at an early stage of the draft and here we are with what is looking like a top 10 pick in a redraft.

Well done Bobrov and co.

 

[morhilane]

Calculated risk, we also have no idea how many times so far those calculations were off but so far it’s worked on Hutson (picking later allowed us Beck + Hutson), Demidov, Hage

It’s cool to see behind the scenes the odds they put on it (25% on Hage)

Going by the draft videos since 2022, this Habs scouting team is very good at guessing in what range their players are going to be taken on the board.

And Hughes tries to climb up to get his man (he tried for Hutson and Hage).

 

[crosbyshow]

In fact we were way more lucky to get Demidov at 5 than Hage at 21st...

Before the draft a buddy asked me what are the odds that Chicago will draft Demidov.


I answered 100%. !! A great winger for Bedard...for 15 years......no brainer


There was some good chances that Hage would be avalaible at 21....Demidov at 5...nah.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

The only luck was the Kings allowing us to move up to 21…all 20 teams drafting 1-20 had dozens of scouts, thousand of hours, hundreds of days and millions of dollars to figure out who they wanted….it wasn’t late rounds picks where it’s almost impossible to project, they all had plenty of time to pick who they wanted at an early stage of the draft and here we are with what is looking like a top 10 pick in a redraft.

Well done Bobrov and co.

It absolutely is luck when you don't know how other team's have players ranked and your staff believes that Hage was a mid teen pick and are being correctly justified as such so far.

I will try and find the clip but I think Hughes may have even used the word "lucky" when talking about Hage falling to to them. By your statement we also were not lucky to have Demidov fall to us or Caufield fall to us.

I know what you are saying and I agree with much of it but from the Canadiens perspective they admittedly tried to do more to move up to specifically get Hage as they would need less luck to draft him......they failed to do so and were ecstatic and surprised to still see him there. From their evaluation of him they felt other teams would see the same things and rank him considerably higher as they did. So.....objectively, they needed to be lucky to be able to draft him based on their evaluation of him.

 

[Gally11]

In fact we were way more lucky to get Demidov at 5 than Hage at 21st...

Before the draft a buddy asked me what are the odds that Chicago will draft Demidov.


I answered 100%. !! A great winger for Bedard...for 15 years......no brainer


There was some good chances that Hage would be avalaible at 21....Demidov at 5...nah.

I thought Chicago was going to draft Hage over Boisvert too

 

[The Last Red]

In fact we were way more lucky to get Demidov at 5 than Hage at 21st...

Before the draft a buddy asked me what are the odds that Chicago will draft Demidov.


I answered 100%. !! A great winger for Bedard...for 15 years......no brainer


There was some good chances that Hage would be avalaible at 21....Demidov at 5...nah.

Lol. There actually were odds on the Hawks drafting Demidov and they were far less than 100 percent as I recall. Far less. But I do agree that we were “luckier” in regard to drafting Demidov. The farther you get from the top 5-7 picks, the harder it is to accurately project prospects.

 

[crosbyshow]

Lol. There actually were odds on the Hawks drafting Demidov and they were far less than 100 percent as I recall. Far less. But I do agree that we were “luckier” in regard to drafting Demidov. The farther you get from the top 5-7 picks, the harder it is to accurately project prospects.

I know but my odds were at 100%. I was sure that they would draft him.

I still can't believe that the Hawks passed on Demidov....with the possibily to put him on Bedard's wing

 

[rahad]

I know but my odds were at 100%. I was sure that they would draft him.

I still can't believe that the Hawks passed on Demidov....with the possibily to put him on Bedard's wing

Finding a RHD is very hard in the NHL. Look at the 2024 draft, every single rhd have gone in the top 10. Also this year top 10 is full of big forward. 100% sure they draft a forward this year.

 

[rahad]

Cole Caufield as a 18 years old in same league show high promising.

Michael Hage at this moment, same league and same age, show aswell high promising.

Seriously, the 2024 draft will be huge for the future of this team. Demidov and Hage will transform the forward group!!

the 2024 could have been all time great for us if our dumb GM did not trade a first and early second round pick (37th, 2024) for Dvorak.

 

[The Last Red]

the 2024 could have been all time great for us if our dumb GM did not trade a first and early second round pick (37th, 2024) for Dvorak.

2023 could’ve been Michkov and Fowler. Just sayin’

 

[Leto]

I thought Chicago was going to draft Hage over Boisvert too

Given Hage played for the Chicago Steel (same owners as the Hawks), it felt like a no-brainer.

 

[rahad]

2023 could’ve been Michkov and Fowler. Just sayin’

I would still take Demidov and Hage. If we had our second round pick we could have added a player Like Andrew Basha.

 

[Naslund]

2023 could’ve been Michkov and Fowler. Just sayin’

After seeing Mailloux and Barron, it's easy to see why the Habs brass felt that a big RH defenseman was going to be more useful to us than Michkov.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

After seeing Mailloux and Barron, it's easy to see why the Habs brass felt that a big RH defenseman was going to be more useful to us than Michkov.

New Jersey did great picking Adam Larson, the big RH defenseman, over Nikita Kucherov.

They’d do it again tomorrow!

 

[Walksss]

New Jersey did great picking Adam Larson, the big RH defenseman, over Nikita Kucherov.

They’d do it again tomorrow!

The Michkov cry fest continues unabated.

 

[tazsub3]

Hughes is on record as saying that he was trying to move up a little higher because he didn't think that they had a good shot at getting Hage at 21......so yes, even by his own admission he got lucky.

I said it earlier but worth repeating . By working smartly You make your own luck. By moving up he allowed himself to get lucky.
As he not anticipated that move , by the 20th pick no now he can make that same trade

 

[Ozmodiar]

I said it earlier but worth repeating . By working smartly You make your own luck. By moving up he allowed himself to get lucky.
As he not anticipated that move , by the 20th pick no now he can make that same trade

Trade up
Change the odds
Create your own luck

 

[Hacketts]

Trade up
Change the odds
Create your own luck

and make the leafs trade their pick.

 

[HuGort]

I thought Chicago was going to draft Hage over Boisvert too

Chicago made puzzling draft last draft