Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

[Cypher]

We’re not gonna have Landy, Nuke, Lehky to begin the season. So what does the roster look like to start the season as far as the forwards?

Drouin-MacK-Mikko
LOC-Mittelstadt-Wood
Kovy-Colton-Ritchie
Kelly-Wagner-Kiviranta

I guess that’s what we go with

LOC might not be ready either, so add Poulin

 

[Avsfan1921]

You think that's bad, I'm replaying NHL 20 right now and I got Nuke to a Top 6 High potential and the guy wants 15 million a year.

Can’t blame him, drugs are expensive.

 

[PAZ]

We’re not gonna have Landy, Nuke, Lehky to begin the season. So what does the roster look like to start the season as far as the forwards?

Drouin-MacK-Mikko
LOC-Mittelstadt-Wood
Kovy-Colton-Ritchie
Kelly-Wagner-Kiviranta

I guess that’s what we go with

If none of them are ready we'll probably sign a bum like Kubalik/Yamamato/Lablanc to fill-in until they're ready or claim a reclamation project.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828443665506652500

 

[henchman21]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828443665506652500

I remember the freak out of him sliding on draft day like it was yesterday.

 

[missionAvs]

I remember the freak out of him sliding on draft day like it was yesterday.

Queue the agonized Montreal Canadiens fan (the lady). I was cracking up when they showed her reaction to the Kotka pick live.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Watch it be us. Our next Tatar

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

There's nobody left that really should be a surefire contract. Just talk PTO's at this point.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Don't worry, we'll get Zadina, he'll look amazing in being a key contributor to a Cup, we will re-sign him only for him to develop a massive addiction to antihistamines

 

[Balthazar]

Queue the agonized Montreal Canadiens fan (the lady). I was cracking up when they showed her reaction to the Kotka pick live.

 

[LOFIN]

 

[Mighty Makar]

I hope Draisaitl gets at least $14M.

 

[Balthazar]

I hope Draisaitl gets at least $14M.

Rants is hoping for that, too.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Rants is hoping for that, too.

Let’s hope he doesn’t get that. Draisaitl is better than Rantanen.

 

[LOFIN]

Rants is hoping for that, too.

I don't really see how the Draisaitl contract is relevant to Rantanen

 

[henchman21]

I don't really see how the Draisaitl contract is relevant to Rantanen

Elite forward hitting another higher tier would have an impact.

 

[LOFIN]

Elite forward hitting another higher tier would have an impact.

He's going to be the highest paid player in the league, that is already established. Unless he signs for like 15mil, don't see how that affects Rantanen.

Draisaitl could get 14.5, that doesn't give Rantanen the case for making more than MacKinnon. Different positions, different players.

 

[missionAvs]

Haha yeah I remember watching the draft with some buddies. We all poured another drink due to her performance there haha.

 

[henchman21]

He's going to be the highest paid player in the league, that is already established. Unless he signs for like 15mil, don't see how that affects Rantanen.

Draisaitl could get 14.5, that doesn't give Rantanen the case for making more than MacKinnon. Different positions, different players.

Rising tide lifts all boats. Probably a miniscule difference between 13.5 and 14... but 14.5-15-15.5 it starts to add up. Especially as we pierce the hit as a percentage of cap ceiling that McDavid set.

The biggest argument for Rants getting more than MacK is simply the cap growing over time. MacK was about 15.2% of the cap in the first year of his deal. That same amount on a ~92m cap is ~14m. Pasta was 13.6% of the cap... that same amount is a shade over 12.5. Now if Drai gets 16% of the cap (14.7m), we'd have a resetting of McDavid's 15.7%. That rising tide could add a few tenths to Pasta's percentage. Say a 13.9... which would put him at ~12.8m.

 

[ANewHope]

How much is the cap rising in the next few seasons? What's a good guess of where it'll be at in say 3 years?

I just don't see how you can give Rantanen the same deal as MacK and contend unless the cap is really going to jump in 2-3 years.

 

[henchman21]

How much is the cap rising in the next few seasons? What's a good guess of where it'll be at in say 3 years?

I just don't see how you can give Rantanen the same deal as MacK and contend unless the cap is really going to jump in 2-3 years.

It is basically mandated in the MoU that it is a 5% increase as long as revenues are fine (and they are currently... which is the critical number for the 25-26 cap based on the calculations). So 88m to ~92m for 25-26 Then we have the CBA risk in 2026. Where negotiations could go any which way and we really don't know until that negotiation is cleared. Given the financial health of the league being pretty good, as long as the Canadian TV deal doesn't go tits up or the RSO situation spiral in the next year... odds are it will increase somewhere in the 2-6% range.

The contending part is going to be over shortly anyway, even the wildly optimistic have to admit that. Rants' deal is as much about PR and fanfare as it is competing. The Avs simply can't take the hit of Rantanen walking... on the ice, or off.

 

[Pokecheque]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828443665506652500

Yzerman picking him instead of the local boy in Quinn Hughes might end up being the very thing that derailed the "Yzerplan" before it even really started.

 

[ANewHope]

It is basically mandated in the MoU that it is a 5% increase as long as revenues are fine (and they are currently... which is the critical number for the 25-26 cap based on the calculations). So 88m to ~92m for 25-26 Then we have the CBA risk in 2026. Where negotiations could go any which way and we really don't know until that negotiation is cleared. Given the financial health of the league being pretty good, as long as the Canadian TV deal doesn't go tits up or the RSO situation spiral in the next year... odds are it will increase somewhere in the 2-6% range.

The contending part is going to be over shortly anyway, even the wildly optimistic have to admit that. Rants' deal is as much about PR and fanfare as it is competing. The Avs simply can't take the hit of Rantanen walking... on the ice, or off.

Makes sense.

Avs are absolutely in the spot where any season the wheels could come off now. If the Landy/Nuke situations work out I think we'll be a top 5 team but doubtful both work out. It's coming to an end soon for sure tho. Avs can't lose Mikko and they were never going to trade him but I hope they don't give him 13m or anything crazy like that.

 

[henchman21]

Makes sense.

Avs are absolutely in the spot where any season the wheels could come off now. If the Landy/Nuke situations work out I think we'll be a top 5 team but doubtful both work out. It's coming to an end soon for sure tho. Avs can't lose Mikko and they were never going to trade him but I hope they don't give him 13m or anything crazy like that.

And strictly IMO... the difference between 13 and 14m will not at all extend any contention. Yeah a million could be useful, but the other issues on the roster are far more critical than whatever Rants ends up getting. Selfishly I want Rants under 11m and would be very happy with 12m. 3 years from now and only 2 years into the deal... I just don't think it matters all that much.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

I just don't see how you can give Rantanen the same deal as MacK and contend unless the cap is really going to jump in 2-3 years.

That’s the point.

Rants will absolutely get that deal if not more and you’re right, we won’t contend. Also have Cale due for another big raise that can be negotiated in 2 summers.

Our window is closing fast if not already closed.

We had MacK, Makar and Rantanen barely making $15m combined and won 1 Cup.