Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[myperbixhurts]

I think we should get Eller, Nieto and Sherwood at the trade deadline

 

[BobRossColton]

I think we should get Eller, Nieto and Sherwood at the trade deadline

Counter with nemeth and soderberg

 

[Gruyeriev]

Andersson has been announced as not available.

Carlo and Jones are vastly different players. I much prefer Jones

One costs 4.1M and the other 9M.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Ferraro would be interesting to me… analytically he’s been bad, but who wouldn’t on that that. I would imagine being in a smaller role would have him looking better than he currently is, just like Jones.

 

[Gruyeriev]

I think we should get Eller, Nieto and Sherwood at the trade deadline

Counter with nemeth and soderberg

now you’re thinking

 

[EdAVSfan]

One costs 4.1M and the other 9M.

Agreed. But I actually wouldn’t be surprised if their costs were similar.

The Seth Jones NMC can have a massive effect on cost. I have my doubts that Carlo would fit in this system. I have zero doubts Jones would

 

[RoyIsALegend]

My biggest concern watching Ferraro is he has been a horrendous passer in my viewings this year.

The amount of times he tries to breakout of his own zone and just gets passed picked off, sends them down for icing, or gives up and chips pucks off the glass is alarming. That shit would be a disaster in Bednar’s system where all 3 forwards have left the zone right after the D retrieves the puck.

He plays a physical game for his size and is a decent skater, but yeah, bad with the puck.

Not too sure.

 

[Gruyeriev]

Agreed. But I actually wouldn’t be surprised if their costs were similar.

The Seth Jones NMC can have a massive effect on cost. I have my doubts that Carlo would fit in this system. I have zero doubts Jones would

Yeah but the Avs always get there guy. Especially many years too late. If we are paying Jones money I would rather go for Parayko

 

[EdAVSfan]

Yeah but the Avs always get there guy. Especially many years too late. If we are paying Jones money I would rather go for Parayko

Difference being here is that I don’t think St Louis has even the slightest interest in moving Parayko.

Gotta go with what’s available and not just what we want.

 

[dahrougem2]

Ferraro looks like a f***ing idiot on HockeyDB missing those teeth so that's an easy pass for me off that alone.

 

[Gruyeriev]

Difference being here is that I don’t think St Louis has even the slightest interest in moving Parayko.

Gotta go with what’s available and not just what we want.

Maybe not. They don’t know what the f*** they are doing with that team. Friedman has been linking him to Toronto forever. I just feel like we made the tough decision to get rid of Bo and now we want to tie up that much salary on D again? What we need is a value contract at 4D.

I’m not sure about Ferraro either but I posted it because it was linked to Pagnotta

 

[forsbergavs32]

Maybe not. They don’t know what the f*** they are doing with that team. Friedman has been linking him to Toronto forever. I just feel like we made the tough decision to get rid of Bo and now we want to tie up that much salary on D again? What we need is a value contract at 4D.

I’m not sure about Ferraro either but I posted it because it was linked to Pagnotta

When we traded Bo the FO didn't know the Cap was gonna go up by 26m in 3 years

 

[Gruyeriev]

When we traded Bo the FO didn't know the Cap was gonna go up by 26m in 3 years

Meanwhile reports are coming in that the NHL ratings are at an all time low in the U.S. Are we sure that the cap will go up as much as they have been projecting? Especially years 2 & 3?

 

[Foppa2118]

Good analysis. This seems the most logical, although I'd argue the fix here is less about improving conditioning, and more about "working smarter--not harder". The problem is that the fix is would be such a stylistic teardown for how he plays currently, that it likely would need to occur in the offseason.

Yeah that's kinda what I'm getting at.

We'll see how Mitts finishes the year. I'm expecting another mini hot streak at some point. I'm just speculating, but I feel like he doesn't have the natural athleticism to play his style though, so he might have to consider changing it. Do less puck hounding, as counterintuitive as that sounds.

He's trying to be both Duchene and ROR. He's not built for that physically and he doesn't seem to have the natural athleticism to get his conditioning where it needs to be to do both either.

The end result being that he always has peaks and valleys during a season, because his style isn't sustainable for him.

IMO the mental change should be for him to just accept he's a lesser Duchene offensively, but a better Duchene defensively. But don't try to be ROR defensively.

Allow himself to reserve a bit more energy during a shift for offense. He's got the hands and the vision. Just needs to separate himself from the contact quicker to make plays more often, and make the simple play more often when he's under pressure.

 

[BobRossColton]

How's Pavel zacha at center?

 

[Foppa2118]

When we traded Bo the FO didn't know the Cap was gonna go up by 26m in 3 years

They should have known it was gonna take a big jump though. That much was known at the time.

If they add some salary to the D core, I think it may signal they realize they made a mistake, and they need to make the D core a priority again. Even if it means dedicating a large portion of the cap to it.

Which, credit to CMac, he's shown a willingness to set his ego aside for in the past, acknowledging mistakes with RJ, Tatar, and their goaltending approach. If they move Mitts it would be similar as well.

 

[dahrougem2]

I've given up on this season. Way too much of a roller coaster and way too inconsistent.

Bad coach
Too much dead weight in Colton, Mittelstadt, Wood, Malinski, Middleton.
Bad coach.
No health.
Drouin and Manson clearly playing hurt.
Bad coach.

Punt it. Punt it to the f***ing moon.

 

[S E P H]

It's Weekes, probably ordered buffalo wings for lunch or something stupid like that.

You effing jerk. I had toothpaste in my mouth and spit all over my laptop screen.

Ferraro looks like a f***ing idiot on HockeyDB missing those teeth so that's an easy pass for me off that alone.

He has a YouTube channel, he's a high-character bloke.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Alright CMac, time to pull off a miracle and get Marco Rossi in a swap for Mitts and then get a max retained Jones

 

[expatriatedtexan]

You effing jerk. I had toothpaste in my mouth and spit all over my laptop screen.


He has a YouTube channel, he's a high-character bloke.

Did you mean that as a compliment or in a Connor Bleackley way?

 

[BobRossColton]

Alright CMac, time to pull off a miracle and get Marco Rossi in a swap for Mitts and then get a max retained Jones

The real miracle would be JEE.


Mason McTavish or has he settled more to wing?

 

[Pokecheque]

I answered that already: "finding a low end 2nd pairing LD is easy and cheap"

Who?

My biggest concern watching Ferraro is he has been a horrendous passer in my viewings this year.

The amount of times he tries to breakout of his own zone and just gets passed picked off, sends them down for icing, or gives up and chips pucks off the glass is alarming. That shit would be a disaster in Bednar’s system where all 3 forwards have left the zone right after the D retrieves the puck.

He plays a physical game for his size and is a decent skater, but yeah, bad with the puck.

Not too sure.

Oh no, Avs don’t need Brad Stuart 2.0

 

[AnimalMother73]

I've given up on this season. Way too much of a roller coaster and way too inconsistent.

Bad coach
Too much dead weight in Colton, Mittelstadt, Wood, Malinski, Middleton.
Bad coach.
No health.
Drouin and Manson clearly playing hurt.
Bad coach.

Punt it. Punt it to the f***ing moon.

Yeah I’m very close to the punt on this season
Don’t make any trades where we take on high risk and lose assets
Re-evaluate coach and GM if for no other reason that team constantly looks stale and is now brimming w under achievers (see high risk statement above)
It’s really frustrating to pls this poorly w two generational talents on the team

 

[BobRossColton]

Would Shane wright be a possibility?

I also didn't realize Rossi is 5' 9''

 

[dahrougem2]

Yeah I’m very close to the punt on this season
Don’t make any trades where we take on high risk and lose assets
Re-evaluate coach and GM if for no other reason that team constantly looks stale and is now brimming w under achievers (see high risk statement above)
It’s really frustrating to pls this poorly w two generational talents on the team

I honestly do not have an answer for what to do.

You aren't going anywhere with pathetic plugs like Mittelstadt, Colton, and Wood occupying over 12M of cap space and giving you nothing night after night. Or a 3rd pair that belongs in the AHL playing every NHL game.

Yet if you don't make the win-now moves, you continue to waste prime years of MacKinnon and Makar, and lord knows how much Makar's next deal costs come 2026. Plus the natural regression expected for Toews, Lehkonen, and Nichushkin as they enter their mid-30s.

I don't envy CMac.

The upset Avs fan in me would punt this season, try to swap Mittelstadt for a different reclamation who can skate better (Zegras or Pinto) and pray it works, then come July 1st send Colton and Wood to whatever team offers me a 2057 conditional 7th.