Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[AnimalMother73]

I feel like mgmt had a run where they were hitting trades out of the park and now it’s the opposite… we are just happy if the team isn’t worse with the new guy. I feel like the Avs led the new paradigm in the nhl w speed and transition but then became obsessed with it (likely because Beds only knows one way to coach) and now the rest of the league has figured it out and they can’t or won’t adapt. Feel like it’s much harder to find consisten success when you only play one specific way. As others have said in the GDT this has been one of the most frustrating seasons since they moved to Denver.

 

[nammerus]

I honestly do not have an answer for what to do.

You aren't going anywhere with pathetic plugs like Mittelstadt, Colton, and Wood occupying over 12M of cap space and giving you nothing night after night. Or a 3rd pair that belongs in the AHL playing every NHL game.

Yet if you don't make the win-now moves, you continue to waste prime years of MacKinnon and Makar, and lord knows how much Makar's next deal costs come 2026. Plus the natural regression expected for Toews, Lehkonen, and Nichushkin as they enter their mid-30s.

I don't envy CMac.

The upset Avs fan in me would punt this season, try to swap Mittelstadt for a different reclamation who can skate better (Zegras or Pinto) and pray it works, then come July 1st send Colton and Wood to whatever team offers me a 2057 conditional 7th.

Envy Cmac? As in he’s not culpable and is cleaning someone else’s mess? He’s the one that brought in those plugs. And wasted 3 years of prime Makar/Mac.

 

[AnimalMother73]

1 step forward 2 steps back seems to be CMacs MO

 

[S E P H]

Did you mean that as a compliment or in a Connor Bleackley way?

Lol, definitely a compliment. I recommend watching some of his videos, I became a fan.

 

[Vaslof]

I feel like mgmt had a run where they were hitting trades out of the park and now it’s the opposite… we are just happy if the team isn’t worse with the new guy. I feel like the Avs led the new paradigm in the nhl w speed and transition but then became obsessed with it (likely because Beds only knows one way to coach) and now the rest of the league has figured it out and they can’t or won’t adapt. Feel like it’s much harder to find consisten success when you only play one specific way. As others have said in the GDT this has been one of the most frustrating seasons since they moved to Denver.

I feel completely the opposite. Blackwood, Wedgewood, Parssinen, Drury and Necas trades all look good at the moment. Only time will tell if they ultimately end up being good.

 

[Cypher]

The only trade that looks like crap is the trade for Mitts.

If anything, its the drafting that has cost this team. Avs literally only have 2 players on their roster that they drafted, #1 Mackinnon and #4 Makar. That's it.

 

[AnimalMother73]

I feel completely the opposite. Blackwood, Wedgewood, Parssinen, Drury and Necas trades all look good at the moment. Only time will tell if they ultimately end up being good.

Agree to disagree I’d say at best they are batting .500 w trades and signings last two years.

 

[Grigowski]

Yes, lets trade for someone older, slower, and less productive then the guy we already hate.

I have doubts an "older" O´Reilly is slower than our current, younger Mittelstadt....

Apparently you deserve the Pulp Fiction car cleaning scene lecture too. Told you guys so. What makes you think we should listen to you now?

 

[Richard88]

The only trade that looks like crap is the trade for Mitts.

If anything, its the drafting that has cost this team. Avs literally only have 2 players on their roster that they drafted, #1 Mackinnon and #4 Makar. That's it.

Whilst it's true that there's only two players they drafted on the roster, and I don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, but there's also quite a few players on the roster who were acquired via trade using players that the Avs drafted and who were key parts of their trades:

Mittelstadt: acquired with Byram
Lehkonen: Barron
Manson: Helleson
Blackwood: Kovalenko
Wedgewood: Annunen
Necas & Drury: Rantanen
Colton: picks from trading Newhook
Girard: Duchene (going back a bit too far admittedly but just including to be coherent)

 

[flyfysher]

They should have known it was gonna take a big jump though. That much was known at the time.

If they add some salary to the D core, I think it may signal they realize they made a mistake, and they need to make the D core a priority again. Even if it means dedicating a large portion of the cap to it.

Which, credit to CMac, he's shown a willingness to set his ego aside for in the past, acknowledging mistakes with RJ, Tatar, and their goaltending approach. If they move Mitts it would be similar as well.

You can’t advance in the POs without an adequate D. Just think, if the Avs had not had Byram for that SC run then they don’t the SCC after G went down.