Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency - Offseason Edition

[EdAVSfan]

Ehh… not sure he’s any better than Colton. Just different. He’ll still cost 2+m too.

If we have an opportunity to make a lateral move and save money, shouldn’t we be all over those kinds of moves?

 

[Mighty Makar]

I thinks Mitts is getting more than $5.5M.

 

[henchman21]

If we have an opportunity to make a lateral move and save money, shouldn’t we be all over those kinds of moves?

It may not even be a lateral move, and if it is, it is a one year savings where KK gets a similar contract the following season.

I know people really want to move Colton, but teams don’t acquire centers, sign them to term with a NTC, and get rid of them within the year. It just isn’t realistic.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I don't recall Nuke having issues failing drug tests when Jost was around. Did Tyson bring that much leadership to the dressing room? Do we need to bring him back on league minimum to center Nuke on the third line with Wood?

 

[EdAVSfan]

It may not even be a lateral move, and if it is, it is a one year savings where KK gets a similar contract the following season.

I know people really want to move Colton, but teams don’t acquire centers, sign them to term with a NTC, and get rid of them within the year. It just isn’t realistic.

To be honest, I don’t really want to move anyone. I’m simply looking at the possibilities that could exist.
I don’t believe the Avs will move Colton. But with the Nuke circumstance, uncertainty with Landeskog, the logjam at wing doesn’t feel so “logjammy” anymore.

So where else can the Avs shave?

The only other really feasible option is they terminate nuke, take a penalty, and load the roster with a bunch of cheap contracts and move no one. Doesn’t that seem more unrealistic?

 

[henchman21]

To be honest, I don’t really want to move anyone. I’m simply looking at the possibilities that could exist.
I don’t believe the Avs will move Colton. But with the Nuke circumstance, uncertainty with Landeskog, the logjam at wing doesn’t feel so “logjammy” anymore.

So where else can the Avs shave?

The only other really feasible option is they terminate nuke, take a penalty, and load the roster with a bunch of cheap contracts and move no one. Doesn’t that seem more unrealistic?

Moving on from Nuke in some manner seems like the most realistic of the options out there. It clears the needed salary (even with a penalty) and the Avs still have enough wings to form up a top 6. Yeah the team is weaker than this last season, but that was always to be the case.

 

[Freaky Styley]

I think with Nuke likely gone we need to look at the option of moving Colton up and back to wing come playoff time and trade for a 3C at the deadline. Something like this:

Reg season:

Drouin - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Landeskog/Kovalenko? - Mitts - Lehkonen
Wood - Colton - LOC
x - x - x -> internal guys or cheap UFAs (Kivi/Pavel/Foudy etc)

Playoffs

Landeskog/Colton - MacK - Drouin
Lehkonen - Mitts - Rants
Landeskog/Colton/Kovalenko - 3C* - LOC
Wood/Kovalenko - 4C - 4W
Ritchie

*Yanni Gourde and Brock Nelson are both pending UFAs that could fit the bill

Depending on money too I'd give Trenin a long look as a Nuke-lite on the wing. I still think that bottom 6 lacks some talent though so it would be nice to get some scoring touch down there (i.e. Ritchie or Foudy). Although if Landeskog can come back relatively healthy and be in the playoffs that would leave us with Wood and Kovalenko as 4th line wings potentially.

 

[Balthazar]

Moving on from Nuke in some manner seems like the most realistic of the options out there. It clears the needed salary (even with a penalty) and the Avs still have enough wings to form up a top 6.

Lehky, Rants...who else?

 

[Perratrooper]

Krebs as a 3C would be an utter disaster

While I don’t disagree, as a short term solution and hopefully a trade chip I think he has value. The team needs to buy time to sort out the Nichuskin situation and this trade would offer comparable value to what we traded for Colton last season.

 

[Alienblood]

I thinks Mitts is getting more than $5.5M.

then trade him

It may not even be a lateral move, and if it is, it is a one year savings where KK gets a similar contract the following season.

I know people really want to move Colton, but teams don’t acquire centers, sign them to term with a NTC, and get rid of them within the year. It just isn’t realistic.

things change he is way overpaid for what he brings

 

[RockLobster]

then trade him


things change he is way overpaid for what he brings

He really isn’t. You’re not finding his offensive production for much less, if any less, on the UFA market, and we’d be paying a LOT in a potential trade for it

 

[henchman21]

then trade him


things change he is way overpaid for what he brings

That’s incorrect. He’s at the market rate.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Lehky, Rants...who else?

Lehky, Rants, Landy, Nuke. And if Nuke doesn’t come back than Drouin is very clearly coming back.

 

[henchman21]

Lehky, Rants...who else?

@The Abusement Park nailed it. If Drouin is signed, Nuke is an inevitability. The Avs have plenty of wings… Lehky, Rants, Landy, Drouin (I think he’s signed), Wood, LOC and Kovi are 7 of the 8 wings penciled in for next season.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Moving on from Nuke in some manner seems like the most realistic of the options out there. It clears the needed salary (even with a penalty) and the Avs still have enough wings to form up a top 6. Yeah the team is weaker than this last season, but that was always to be the case.

This is kinda the point I’m making. I really don’t see the top 6 wings. We have currently, 3 at best. I think we agree that Nuke is likely gone, but with a cap penalty. Sure, there’s the possibility of bringing back Drouin, but between his new salary, and a probably Nuke penalty, we’re probably close to Nuke’s cap hit. So no savings there.

I’m pretty sure the Avs have to shed salary. If you shave a guy like Lehkonen, you’re still in the hole a winger.
You shave Colton, you’re in the hole a 3C.

I’d venture to guess that with the uncertainty of the quality of play from Landeskog, we can’t really afford to lose Nuke and another winger.

I mean, something has to happen. This is a pick your poison situation.

 

[henchman21]

This is kinda the point I’m making. I really don’t see the top 6 wings. We have currently, 3 at best. I think we agree that Nuke is likely gone, but with a cap penalty. Sure, there’s the possibility of bringing back Drouin, but between his new salary, and a probably Nuke penalty, we’re probably close to Nuke’s cap hit. So no savings there.

I’m pretty sure the Avs have to shed salary. If you shave a guy like Lehkonen, you’re still in the hole a winger.
You shave Colton, you’re in the hole a 3C.

I’d venture to guess that with the uncertainty of the quality of play from Landeskog, we can’t really afford to lose Nuke and another winger.

I mean, something has to happen. This is a pick your poison situation.

Lehky, Rants, Landy and Drouin would be 4 top 6 wings. Most teams are not complete in that area and have a fringe guy in a higher role. You don’t need 4, but 4 is nice to have. Avs have it.

The cap is going to be tight regardless. You can’t trim Colton for savings. You can’t time beyond Nuke for savings. Defense is maybe an area, but they already trimmed. I think in any case, this team is going to be a step or two worse than this past season’s team simply due to the cap and reliance on very cheap depth.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

That’s incorrect. He’s at the market rate.

People starting to hate on my boy

 

[henchman21]

People starting to hate on my boy

Starting?!?!?!!

 

[hockeyfish]

This is kinda the point I’m making. I really don’t see the top 6 wings. We have currently, 3 at best. I think we agree that Nuke is likely gone, but with a cap penalty. Sure, there’s the possibility of bringing back Drouin, but between his new salary, and a probably Nuke penalty, we’re probably close to Nuke’s cap hit. So no savings there.

I’m pretty sure the Avs have to shed salary. If you shave a guy like Lehkonen, you’re still in the hole a winger.
You shave Colton, you’re in the hole a 3C.

I’d venture to guess that with the uncertainty of the quality of play from Landeskog, we can’t really afford to lose Nuke and another winger.

I mean, something has to happen. This is a pick your poison situation.

I suspect that they will finally move Girard and bring in someone like Kulikov at a much cheaper caphit.

 

[henchman21]

I suspect that they will finally move Girard and bring in someone like Kulikov at a much cheaper caphit.

For a team that has held on to defensive depth and made certain they could backfill to move one (who will be moving on now)… losing another would be out of character.

Though I’d argue Manson would be the smartest to move.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

A top 6 of MacK/Rants/Drouin/Mitts/Landy/Lehky should be more than good enough to contribute offense in the regular season. If LOC is healthy-ish and can continue the chemistry with Colton/Wood, 3rd line is also fine. Throw some plugs on the 4th line and pickup a couple of grizzlies at the TDL. No concerns up front.

On backend, top 4 of Toews/Makar/G/Manson is also fine for regular season, but a couple of things... huge onus on them to stay healthy, and if they somehow remain healthy, Beds will probably give them huge minutes with a useless 3rd pairing behind them. Concern heading into playoffs with tired legs and will most certainly need another TDL addition for a 4/5 D if not a couple of bodies.

 

[hockeyfish]

For a team that has held on to defensive depth and made certain they could backfill to move one (who will be moving on now)… losing another would be out of character.

Though I’d argue Manson would be the smartest to move.

Manson is a tough one. On one hand, he is the only physical presence on the defense. On the other, he is old and we've seen how bad he can be when he's playing hurt.

 

[henchman21]

Manson is a tough one. On one hand, he is the only physical presence on the defense. On the other, he is old and we've seen how bad he can be when he's playing hurt.

I’d much rather the Avs just plug that hole with rentals and just absorb that cost while giving flexibility during the first part of the season and summer.

 

[henchman21]

A top 6 of MacK/Rants/Drouin/Mitts/Landy/Lehky should be more than good enough to contribute offense in the regular season. If LOC is healthy-ish and can continue the chemistry with Colton/Wood, 3rd line is also fine. Throw some plugs on the 4th line and pickup a couple of grizzlies at the TDL. No concerns up front.

On backend, top 4 of Toews/Makar/G/Manson is also fine for regular season, but a couple of things... huge onus on them to stay healthy, and if they somehow remain healthy, Beds will probably give them huge minutes with a useless 3rd pairing behind them. Concern heading into playoffs with tired legs and will most certainly need another TDL addition for a 4/5 D if not a couple of bodies.

Yeah it is going to have to be another busy deadline and an incomplete roster until then. Just have to hope Bednar won’t run the top guys into the ground before then.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Yeah it is going to have to be another busy deadline and an incomplete roster until then. Just have to hope Bednar won’t run the top guys into the ground before then.

He will.