Boston Bruins 2024-2025 Roster & Salary Cap Discussion IV

[DKH]

just sign Lindholm

Zacha - Lindholm - Pasta
Marchand - Coyle - Laine

Haha that would be wild

 

[I am Bettman]

just sign Lindholm

Zacha - Lindholm - Pasta
Marchand - Coyle - Laine

Lindholm is looking for too much money. Let some other team pay him 8x7 because those last 3-4 years are going to be brutal most likely. I would prefer to aquire a great LW instead because the options will be better. Lindholm would be awesome if he is the player that we know he can be, but there is way to big of a chance that he won’t return to form.

 

[pucksindeep92]

They made the playoffs this season without him........And they will make the playoffs next season without him.

Jacob’s family burner account

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Lindholm is looking for too much money. Let some other team pay him 8x7 because those last 3-4 years are going to be brutal most likely. I would prefer to aquire a great LW instead because the options will be better. Lindholm would be awesome if he is the player that we know he can be, but there is way to big of a chance that he won’t return to form.

I look at it like this. After 4 seasons in Boston (hopefully) Lindholm will be the same age Marchessault is today. No reason to believe he is suddenly going to be an awful player at that point.

 

[I am Bettman]

I look at it like this. After 4 seasons in Boston (hopefully) Lindholm will be the same age Marchessault is today. No reason to believe he is suddenly going to be an awful player at that point.

Does make me feel a little bit better about it, but his last couple years have been more concerning than Marchessault. High risk high reward to sign Lindholm.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Watching the game tonight tells me talent and grit are worth a lot more then high end talent alone. Please don’t trade or sign for guys who don’t deliver in the playoffs.

Paul Maurice is the best coach on the planet hands down. This guy deserves tons of credit. They play as a team. They are methodical in everything they do.

 

[DKH]

Here is what I think Sens & Broons

Poulin (head of hockey ops) & Sweeney teammates 4 years

Steve Staios new GM played with Sweeney parts of two years on same D

Logic they are taking about this

Everything predicated on Ullmark does agree to waive no trade & an extension would have to get him to do it

If Sens decide they want Ullmark and I’m GM
I want to get rid of Korpisalo (4 years at 4 M left)
Chychrun wants out so I’m good with adding him - good riddance
They got 7 (own) - I’m not trading & and 25 (Boston via Detroit) I’ll deal

I’m Poulin/Staios to get Ullmark and extended

Dump 16 M in Korpi and get rid of huge headache
Chychrun- he’s unhappy an UFA next summer and not resigning
25th pick - Boston can have pick back

I’m the Sens I do in a heartbeat

As for Dollar Store Donny

Um….I’ll take 7 (best case scenario)

Unrealistic 7 overall for Linus

First off there are SIX high end defenders and many will be at pick 7 and Ottawa needs this

So if Ullmark agrees to go there - long shot

Korpi is going to be attached to 25 (and that screws Bussi) or 7 if they are that freakin desperate which at that point I do

Korpi is 30 and probably worth 2.5-3 easy so what’s a mill between former teammates and a Harvard & Notre Dame Ulums

The crazy thing that really isn’t crazy from Ottawa view is:
Ullmark for

A first (25 and Bostons back - nice angle)
Chychrun- he’s gone so I can see it
Korpisalo - a headache and fan ire relieved but now an expensive backup for 4 years in Boston who kinda screws Bussi

Also

I still would go for Ullmark over Markstrom if Devils - he’s big and a horse but 4 years older, 6 M for 2 years and can be moody I’ve heard - plus I don’t think he’s that good

Teams may question Linus all in and injury history against a guy who gives you 55 cs 40

Bottom line if Ullmark says yes to Ottawa this will get interesting

However as said above I think it’s a long shot at best - LA or Colorado someone with a chance better spot for him

LA (Alex Laferriere LW & Harvard boy)
Colorado (first - 24)

This is what I’d want if Sweeney

 

[bruins19]

Watching the game tonight tells me talent and grit are worth a lot more then high end talent alone. Please don’t trade or sign for guys who don’t deliver in the playoffs.

Paul Maurice is the best coach on the planet hands down. This guy deserves tons of credit. They play as a team. They are methodical in everything they do.

Never liked Paul Maurice, he always seemed whiny. Aided by the refs, either at his direction or with his indifference, his team plays a very dirty style of play. That said, he is producing the results that count in the win column and certainly is the most successful coach at the moment.

 

[LouJersey]

Calling Ullmark to Colorado for 24th ov to be announced before the draft with an extension.

 

[Ladyfan]

If he declines he could slide into a 3C role and the cap hit wouldn't be as bad with the cap increasing. He's not a perfect solution but he's a good one, I don't think perfect is out there.

I agree.

 

[Blowfish]

At

I think we need a guy on each line; ideally two goal scorers for the top 2 lines, and two pretty heavy guys for the bottom six (I'm sold on Maroon, Beecher, Brazeau, Lauko). I also think we need a hammer on the backend that can play; I'm pretty sold on Edmundson, I think he'd be about the right price and thought he looked good in the opening round. Then of course Swayman & a backup.

Using some estimates from an analytics spreadsheet someone shared here a while back. Pick two of these guys & one third liner below; outside of a trade of course. I'm not sure if I'm missing anyone.

LW -
Bertuzzi - $5,300,000 for 4
Mantha - $,4,750,000 for 4
DeBrusk - $5,800,000 for 5
Teravainen - $5,300,000 for 4

C -
Lindholm - $7,000,000 for 5
Stephenson - $5,750,000 for 5

RW -
Marchessault - $6,300,000 for 3
Bertuzzi - $5,300,000 for 4
Mantha - $4,750,000 for 4
Toffoli - $6,000,000 for 4

Then pick one of these guys for the third line;
Domi - $3,750,000 for 3
Joshua - $3,400,000 for 4
Heinen - $2,750,000 for 3
Lafferty - $2,400,000 for 3

for me, I think it's
Bertuzzi at LW, Marchessault at RW, and Joshua at LW for the third line. Add Swyman, Maroon & Edmundson and that's a big jump in scoring and physicality from this year. The numbers work based off those analytics, along with Ullmark being traded for picks.

I'm hoping for a good hockey trade ... if I had to pick from each category...
Tera
Steph
March
Domi

 

[Blowfish]

Never liked Paul Maurice, he always seemed whiny. Aided by the refs, either at his direction or with his indifference, his team plays a very dirty style of play. That said, he is producing the results that count in the win column and certainly is the most successful coach at the moment.

Florida is a pretty darn good team. Shutting down MC David, Dry, Ziggy, Troch, Coyle, Zach/Geek, Point/Cer

 

[BruinDust]

Calling Ullmark to Colorado for 24th ov to be announced before the draft with an extension.

I thought Ullmark couldn't sign an extension until July 1st?

 

[LouJersey]

I thought Ullmark couldn't sign an extension until July 1st?

Ah true, handshake deal for extension hahah

 

[Blowfish]

I agree.

I agree with the agree. It's the team that is good. Not all about the center. If we talk centers ... IMO Coyle may have been one of the more difficult players the Panthers faced.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Wait till he wants 7.25M a year for that shot while being constantly hurt.

That has nothing to do with my statement.

I’d prefer a hockey trade for a center than toss 7/8m per at Lindholm or Stephenson. The 2025 UFA class doesn’t look so hot either. Time for some wheeling & dealing.

Who is saying pay Stephenson 7-8M? Don't make stuff up.

 

[shelbysdad]

Here is what I think Sens & Broons

Poulin (head of hockey ops) & Sweeney teammates 4 years

Steve Staios new GM played with Sweeney parts of two years on same D

Logic they are taking about this

Everything predicated on Ullmark does agree to waive no trade & an extension would have to get him to do it

If Sens decide they want Ullmark and I’m GM
I want to get rid of Korpisalo (4 years at 4 M left)
Chychrun wants out so I’m good with adding him - good riddance
They got 7 (own) - I’m not trading & and 25 (Boston via Detroit) I’ll deal

I’m Poulin/Staios to get Ullmark and extended

Dump 16 M in Korpi and get rid of huge headache
Chychrun- he’s unhappy an UFA next summer and not resigning
25th pick - Boston can have pick back

I’m the Sens I do in a heartbeat

As for Dollar Store Donny

Um….I’ll take 7 (best case scenario)

Unrealistic 7 overall for Linus

First off there are SIX high end defenders and many will be at pick 7 and Ottawa needs this

So if Ullmark agrees to go there - long shot

Korpi is going to be attached to 25 (and that screws Bussi) or 7 if they are that freakin desperate which at that point I do

Korpi is 30 and probably worth 2.5-3 easy so what’s a mill between former teammates and a Harvard & Notre Dame Ulums

The crazy thing that really isn’t crazy from Ottawa view is:
Ullmark for

A first (25 and Bostons back - nice angle)
Chychrun- he’s gone so I can see it
Korpisalo - a headache and fan ire relieved but now an expensive backup for 4 years in Boston who kinda screws Bussi

Also

I still would go for Ullmark over Markstrom if Devils - he’s big and a horse but 4 years older, 6 M for 2 years and can be moody I’ve heard - plus I don’t think he’s that good

Teams may question Linus all in and injury history against a guy who gives you 55 cs 40

Bottom line if Ullmark says yes to Ottawa this will get interesting

However as said above I think it’s a long shot at best - LA or Colorado someone with a chance better spot for him

LA (Alex Laferriere LW & Harvard boy)
Colorado (first - 24)

This is what I’d want if Sweeney

Better to eat 1 year of Ullmark at 5 than 4 years of Korpisalo at 4. If Ottawa wants that, the 7 has to come our way

 

[BruinDust]

Ah true, handshake deal for extension hahah

I can see that being the eventual destination though. Makes a lot of sense for Colorado.

 

[Oates2Neely]

That has nothing to do with my statement.



Who is saying pay Stephenson 7-8M? Don't make stuff up.

Maybe 7/8m for Stephenson is a slight exaggeration, but I think he signs for 6m+. Supply & demand. Center market via UFA is weak.
J.T. Compher is a decent comp (no pun intended). He’s signed for 5.1m cap hit for 5 years. But Comphers career high in points was 52 when he signed. Stephenson has scored 65 points twice. And he’s been part of 2 Cup winning teams. Is it a reach to suggest he signs for 6 to 6.5m per? For a 3rd line center? I’d pass. Bruins need real top 6 centers not fringe centers.

“The demand for both centres and proven post-season performers remains sky high in the NHL. The Detroit Red Wings splashed $25.5 million at centre J.T. Compher in 2023’s free agency, and his previous best was 52 points. Bottom line: There will be a robust market for the two-way Stephenson if he remains unsigned by July.” –Fox on Sportsnet.ca

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Better to eat 1 year of Ullmark at 5 than 4 years of Korpisalo at 4. If Ottawa wants that, the 7 has to come our way

Yeah Ottawa needs to throw in a first just to dump Korpisalo in my book, and probably the #7, not the Boston pick . He's had a couple hot streaks in his career, but his numbers have generally been AWFUL. Now maybe Boston could fix him, and flip him later, but he just might be a rotting corpse killing you in the backup role, which Bussi leaves town

 

[whatsbruin]

Florida is a pretty darn good team. Shutting down MC David, Dry, Ziggy, Troch, Coyle, Zach/Geek, Point/Cer

Yeah, not sure Coyle/Zach/Geek is in the same class as those others. It's understandable with the loss of Bergi and Krecji, but boy the B's center quality is weak.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

They made the playoffs this season without him........And they will make the playoffs next season without him.

Great but they won't get out of the division.

 

[Kegs]

I’d Edmonton losses the cup they are going to want Ullmark. I bet Ullmark would waive to go there. I wonder what a trade with Edmonton would look like.

 

[DominicT]

Better to eat 1 year of Ullmark at 5 than 4 years of Korpisalo at 4. If Ottawa wants that, the 7 has to come our way

Or you bring him in under Goalie Bob, get him into Vezina territory and trade him for a haul

 

[ODAAT]

Florida is a pretty darn good team. Shutting down MC David, Dry, Ziggy, Troch, Coyle, Zach/Geek, Point/Cer

to me Florida is this year`s version of the B`s 2011 team, tough, plays right on the edge, sometimes stepping over it, can play any way you wish.....man does it pain me to say that as there are a few pure pieces of crap on that team but...