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I disagree ... Not "remotely" close in value? come on now.
Totally different player styles yes,I would argue the Bruins would need to add due to the contacts and age difference.
To have a chance if he is available it will take Pasta going the other way. I'd say McAvoy by himself would get it done as well.
Pasta is being wasted by having a no passing center, if we had one in the mix Id say no never trade him but he's not getting younger waiting for one.
Just my opinion nothing more.
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Yup, Illitch supposedly told Jacobs to his face at a board of governors meeting what he had done to Boston was a disgrace and JJ was going to get "even" by signing Lapointe. I liked Lapointe a lot, loved him with Detroit. But like so many scrappy, tough forwards who have come to Boston (Backes, Hathaway and Belesky are the first that come to mind) he was neutered here.
MarchysNoseKnows
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Nope. That’s just you being you.
Not that this is the end all, but the Athletic trade value column had Pasta 8th and Brady 20th.
Players Pasta was above included Draisaitl, Bedard, Matthew Tkachuk, Jack Hughes, Celebrini, Dahlin, and McAvoy (also above Brady).
BamBamCam
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And I bet every GM looks at the Athletic trade value. You can compare all you want,the truth is every player is tradeable. From Gretzky to Mathew Tkachuk. Hell the Bruins even let their greatest player leave. Your smugness on this board is hilarious. Especially when your evaluations like:
Ullmark won't waive to Ottawa
Guentzal will 10 million or move
Zeev Buium is going top 5 /he won't drop pass 7
and so on.
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The Bruins never "let their greatest player leave". They made a legit over-the-top offer that included partial ownership of the team, and Orr's lowlife, scum of the earth agent never showed him the offer because he had a cut of the concessions in Chicago and wanted him to sign there.
MarchysNoseKnows
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Ullmark didn’t waive to Ottawa.
Guentzel took $9M not exactly a radical failure.
Can’t believe I was wrong about a draft selection projection I’ll go flog myself I guess.
Of course Pasta is tradeable. Trading him for a winger who is a captain of a team that consistently falls short of expectations. Who has never played in a playoff game. Who has hit 80 points once and 70 points one other time. But the Bruins would need to add to Pasta to get him. Ok.
Olden McGroin
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E. Lindholm for Kreider, will add if needed, but no first.
Horrible, horrible, horrible proposal - besides how are you going to fit in the extra $6.2 million cap hit ????
Pasta - 28 years old ( $11.5 million cap hit for the next 6 seasons )
Zacha - 27 years old ( $4.75 million cap hit for the next 2 seasons )
Zibanejad - 31 years old ( $8.5 million cap hit for the next 6 seasons )
Kreider - 33 years old ( $6.5 million cap hit for the next 2 seasons )
Lafreniere - 23 years old ( 7.45 million cap hit for the next 8 seasons - starts next season )
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So on a tem desperate for a center depth in the off-season, you trade a prime center you just acquired for an aging winger (and you add)?
Bruins get out a contract, that never should have been offered. I think you mean Elias, because he was just signed, but I am confused by the "Prime center " description.
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Read it as "in his prime" for an aging winger. And I'm one who doesn't hate his contract at all. Certainly not enough to throw it out on Kreider alone, never mind adding to it with a prospect or pick.
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He is thirty, little late to call it prime, when you are just starting the first year of a seven year contract.
Terrier
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I admire your tenacity, but Lindholm + for Kreider probably isn’t the hill you wanna die fighting on…
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Every season there's more and more proof that overtime rules could use a few tweaks to make teams play more aggressive. Felt like the Ducks possessed the puck for 2 straight minutes and shot it once.
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Alan Ryan
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They could stop the nonsense and go back to 5 on 5 for a 10 minute overtime. And no shootout!!
If the game ends in a tie that’s fine.
Speculation is Quennville which is um, well let's just say that would be a move that would be pretty heavily scrutinized.
CharasLazyWrister
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You’re better off accepting the league is never going back to ties. They want games decided. There’s a reason the other three major pro leagues in the US do not have ties (with the extremely rare exception of the NFL).
5 on 5 for 10 minutes does not push or challenge teams any more than the previous 60 minutes that ended in a tie.
I don’t like 3v3. I despite the shootout. But the format is essentially a compromise between the overall desire of the viewing audience for a decision one way or another, plus the need to not extend games indefinitely in the middle of the regular season. The only other sport comparable to hockey in terms of physical toll is football and they play a fraction of the number of games each year. Any realistic recommendation is going to need to involve both a. The game being decided and b. Said decision occurring relatively quickly following the end of regulation.
Or you can harken back to how great everything was in the old days and continue to be disappointed when that idealized memory predictably never becomes reality.
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