hockeyfish
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At this point, it's anyones guess. They don't want to talk about it, so we just wont know.
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LOFIN
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Yes, based on Bednar's comments. Paraphrasing:
"It's a lingering issue, he's not 100% and we will give him time off for practices but he'll try to play".
He wouldn't say stuff like that if it was a concussion.
E. This is the actual quote from yesterday, courtesy of Evan:
“It’s not an injury you need to manage. When he’s good, he’s good. We’ll push through to break as best as we can. If he can play, he can play. If he can’t, he can’t. His injury, there’s no risk of it getting worse.”
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Edited my message above with the exact quote. Concussion certainly doesn't fit the "it can't get worse" wording Bednar used.
It has to be his shoulder.
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I guess it can. I'm just very doubtful they would have him play games if he's having concussion symptoms. Though I guess nothing would surprise me in the NHL when it comes to how this stuff is handled.
Based on those quotes, I asked ChatGPT:
"Based on the coach's comments, the injury is likely something that:
1. Isn't a concussion – The coach wouldn't downplay a head injury or suggest pushing through practices or games if it involved a concussion due to strict NHL protocols.
2. Isn't worsening with play – The injury doesn't carry a risk of further damage with continued activity.
3. Can be managed day-to-day – The player can potentially play depending on how they feel, but might need occasional rest.
4. Is lingering – It has been an ongoing issue rather than something acute.
Possible Injuries:
Muscle strain or contusion – A mild to moderate strain in the shoulder, upper back, or chest area could allow for some play while occasionally needing rest.
Rib bruise or cartilage injury – Painful but not structurally worsening with play.
Shoulder/AC joint sprain – Can be managed with rest and treatment but may flare up during play.
Biceps or pectoral tendonitis – Overuse injuries that cause discomfort but aren’t worsened by activity.
Minor rotator cuff irritation – Allows mobility but can be painful, especially during shooting or physical contact.
Given the reassurance about no risk of worsening, it's likely a soft tissue injury or irritation rather than a structural issue requiring surgery or significant time off."
f*** off. This guy is gonna last a collective 3 shifts game 1 of the playoffs if he even makes it that far.
dahrougem2
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My guess has always been core muscle that likely requires surgery in the summer. A lot of guys play through those then get the surgery after.
It's just gonna be like this the rest of the season. Whatever that big hit he took was, it did a number on him. Best we just accept this is the way it's gonna be and move on. He'll play a few here, then go on the shelf again. Rinse and repeat. I'll definitely take that over "out for the year."
hockeyfish
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Did you ask ChatGTP to talk to the trainer?
hockeyfish
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It's going to make it hard to work though roster wise when he is 50/50 to play.
Honestly it's a f***ing joke how injured this team always is. They really need to assess how they are training, rehabbing, or what's going on with the medical staff. If this is was a one year thing, then whatever, but we are a walking ER every f***ing year. No other team deals with this on a yearly basis. Something has to change. You can't operate a team when there is consistently 5-10 guys out of lineup.
dahrougem2
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Man he did absolutely nothing to brace himself for that hit. Opened his body up completely, right on the boards, and just took it.
Could be that the damage is already done and will require offseason surgery, and his ability to play in the meantime is down to pain and/or swelling management.
They got rid of the conditioning coach and things are the exact same as they've always been. The whole "strength and conditioning" thing is horribly exaggerated IMO. It ain't like these guys show up to camp out of shape or something.
Part of it is getting guys off the scrap heap who have lengthy injury histories to begin with. Both Drouin and de Haan are prime examples of this. But really, it boils down to dumb luck. IIRC, the year the Avs finally won it all in 2022 was one of the very few years they were also mostly healthy. And that was with two of the most injury-prone goaltenders in the league guarding the net, one of whom suffered a major eye injury (again) during the playoffs.
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I said it yesterday that it sounded like tendinitis. Could be shoulder or muscle. Basically becomes swollen and inflamed when used, then goes away with time.
Rotator cuff makes sense too. Especially since it’s been mentioned that it’s shoulder related.
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Didn't JD have an injury before signing with the Avs? I know he was in the Player's Assistance Program, but didn't he also have an injury? Could this be something to do with that?
I mean sure some of it is luck, but we've basically led the league in man games lost 3 years in a row. That's not really luck at that point it's a trend.
This is really something the organization needs to take a long hard look at to determine why we are always at top of the league in injuries.
Drouin + Manson on LTIR would be exactly $7M...
I'm just saying, the plan is coming together nicely if you ask me.
I'm just saying, the plan is coming together nicely if you ask me.
