2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[TheOrganist]

This and the fact if we move a vet or two at the deadline or in the offseason, we will have to replace their production as well before we get to a point of net benefit to the team.

Example: if Schenn is traded but Dvorsky makes the team out of camp (as we expect him to), and Dvorsky has around 32 pts by this time next season, Our overall team could be in a very similar spot in the playoff race, as we just replaced one (aging) player for another (rookie).

This is another one of the myriad reasons that a Schenn trade makes no sense and I don’t believe any of the rumblings about him. It makes little sense for the Blues to trade him unless we’re talking about some killer return and that isn’t happening.

 

[sfvega]

I’m not sure the chances of making the playoffs improve next year.

I’m fairly confident in thinking both Dvorsky and Snuggerud will be on the roster next year, but it’s not a guarantee.

Who knows what the overall roster will look like next year?

I would assume if they’re both on the roster, the Blues should improve, but again there’s no guarantee.

The NHL is a different animal from the AHL or college hockey. There will be a learning curve.

I think to your first point that it's hard to gauge year over year who is going to be good enough to be on the fringe of playoffs and who won't. I think individually this team is better this year than it was last year, but the goaltending is worse, so the results are worse. They stole a lot of points last year. If we can have a healthy defense that gets a lot of reps together, that should be a big step forward for the team as a whole. Broberg was playing like a man possessed before injury, Fowler wasn't here the first 30-ish games, Leddy missed a lot of time, Suter was playing more mins than he should, Peru was playing. Actually having stability and chemistry would be a big upgrade.

Dvo and Snuggy should make the roster next year, but I agree we have to have tempered expectations.

We have any number of guys who should take a step forward. Buchnevich hasn't played this poorly in years. Neighbours and Bolduc should have better production, and Bolduc should have already had better deployment. Toro is having a poor year. It's hard to imagine our secondary scoring will be this bad next year, even if we're only adding Snuggy's shot and Dvo. Replacing Joseph/Texier and Sunny in our top 9 is a very low bar. Will these guys have under 20 points combined nearing the 60 game mark? Will Army get us another forward or a PP QB in the offseason?

I think the org has earned the benefit of the doubt given that this would be only the 4th time since 1989 our point percentage is this low. To say that we could easily be this bad next year is historically unlikely.

 

[stl76]

3rd?

Maybe a 2nd, but I think a 3rd is a reasonable ask.

 

[SirPaste]

3rd?

I would take a 3rd for him for sure

 

[kimzey59]

3rd?

Push for a 2nd.
Settle for a 3rd+.

 

[Mike Liut]

Here’s what I’d take this year…

Schenn - 1st - no retention
Suter - 3rd
Faksa - 3rd
Walker - 4th
Torpo - 3rd
Faulk - free, just to unload the contract

Why? Hell, why not at this point

 

[Beauterham]

Here’s what I’d take this year…

Schenn - 1st - no retention
Suter - 3rd
Faksa - 3rd
Walker - 4th
Torpo - 3rd
Faulk - free, just to unload the contract

Why? Hell, why not at this point

I'd push for a (late?) 2nd with Suter and Faksa. Wouldn't move Walker and Torpo just yet. I do think we have to consider the goalie situation: Ellis deserves a shot in the NHL with how he's playing this season and I don't know if we can give him that opportunity. So we might have to move him or lose him to waivers in the offseason. Only way I can see us keeping him is if we somehow decide to move either Binner or Hofer.

BTW, maybe also add Leddy and Fowler to your list? I don't see them being moved, but I can imagine Army listening on offers.

 

[Stealth JD]

I want ‘26 and ‘27 picks…not a single additional pick for the ‘25 draft.

 

[Blanick]

I want ‘26 and ‘27 picks…not a single additional pick for the ‘25 draft.

I mean a lot of the team that are competing this year have already traded their 2025 picks so that might happen. Personally I would prefer if we targeted prospects instead of picks. I would rather have guys that are 2 years away instead of 4-5.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

I mean a lot of the team that are competing this year have already traded their 2025 picks so that might happen. Personally I would prefer if we targeted prospects instead of picks. I would rather have guys that are 2 years away instead of 4-5.

If we do, hopefully those prospects trend in better direction than Dean has thus far.

 

[Mike Liut]

Elliotte Friedman said on today's 32 Thoughts Podcast that there is a lot of noise around the St. Louis Blues. He adds that Army has to focus on Canada right now, but that there is a lot of noise around what the Blues are up to. Everyone is looking at STL.

Random Twitter guy

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Friedman is pretty much the only talking head that I give a damn about, so that's pretty exciting to hear.

 

[TheOrganist]

We'll see if I'm incorrect in my analysis of Armstrong's current mindset but he is scaring me.

 

[BrokenFace]

I want ‘26 and ‘27 picks…not a single additional pick for the ‘25 draft.

Why is that? Are those drafts just considered better overall than 2025?

 

[mrinprophet]

Hmm... while the focus seems to be on Schenn... I'll take Neighbours for Dobson or Nemec. We have a surplus of winger prospects and you have to give to get. Sounds like Dobson wants out of NYI (agent change, rumors Lou making him available). Next year you'd have...
Fowler/Parayko
Broberg/Dobson
Leddy/Faulk

 

[Mike Liut]

Hmm... while the focus seems to be on Schenn... I'll take Neighbours for Dobson or Nemec. We have a surplus of winger prospects and you have to give to get. Sounds like Dobson wants out of NYI (agent change, rumors Lou making him available). Next year you'd have...
Fowler/Parayko
Broberg/Dobson
Leddy/Faulk

I know you have to give to get, but Neighbors fits the style we want to become.

 

[SirPaste]

Hmm... while the focus seems to be on Schenn... I'll take Neighbours for Dobson or Nemec. We have a surplus of winger prospects and you have to give to get. Sounds like Dobson wants out of NYI (agent change, rumors Lou making him available). Next year you'd have...
Fowler/Parayko
Broberg/Dobson
Leddy/Faulk

In theory I would do that but you can't lose Neighbours unless you know for sure Dobson is willing to sign here for a reasonable amount.

 

[Reality Czech]

Hmm... while the focus seems to be on Schenn... I'll take Neighbours for Dobson or Nemec. We have a surplus of winger prospects and you have to give to get. Sounds like Dobson wants out of NYI (agent change, rumors Lou making him available). Next year you'd have...
Fowler/Parayko
Broberg/Dobson
Leddy/Faulk

I like Neighbours a lot, but he's not getting either of those players on his own. We'd need to add. Honestly, I want no part of Dobson. Don't see how overpaying for a one-dimensional d-man is going to help us long term. Nemec is more of a wild card, but at least he's cost controlled in the short term.

 

[Majorityof1]

Hmm... while the focus seems to be on Schenn... I'll take Neighbours for Dobson or Nemec. We have a surplus of winger prospects and you have to give to get. Sounds like Dobson wants out of NYI (agent change, rumors Lou making him available). Next year you'd have...
Fowler/Parayko
Broberg/Dobson
Leddy/Faulk

I'd be very, very shocked if Neighbours was moved anywhere while Army has any say. After announcing his eventual transition out, he was asked what he'd still like to accomplish. He said helping the next generation flourish and he very specifically keyed in on Neighbours. Army loves that kid.

 

[Bluesnatic27]

Why is that? Are those drafts just considered better overall than 2025?

Rule #7 in fan speculation of drafting: the next draft is always better than the current year.

 

[ezcreepin]

If we do, hopefully those prospects trend in better direction than Dean has thus far.

To be fair to Dean, his first pro season was last year and granted it took him a bit to catch up to the pro game (which I think is perfectly fine). Then he had a pretty serious injury that has put him out for a long while and he's just now getting back up to speed after missing like what, 8-9 months? I thought he looked usable in his time with the Blues even if he didn't know what to do. He looked better than when Alexandrov auditioned *shrug*

 

[TheDizee]

Kyrou + 2027 (or 2026) 1st + 2026 5th (PIT or NYI)

for

Tkachuk (resigned) + 2025 2nd + 2026 6th (COL) + Perron

We get rid of Kyrou and gain 2 heart and soul STL guys. This is what the team needs, HEART AND SOUL GUYS!

Yes we give up a 1st but that will not be a early pick (lottery protected). Ottawa gets Kyrou + a 1st to replenish the one they will give up for the improper Dadonov trade. Also dump Perron's cap space.

 

[joe galiba]

I would like to trade a bottle of Old Bardstown and a bottle of Old Crow for a bottle of Blantons

 

[Xerloris]

Kyrou + 2027 (or 2026) 1st + 2026 5th (PIT or NYI)

for

Tkachuk (resigned) + 2025 2nd + 2026 6th (COL) + Perron

We get rid of Kyrou and gain 2 heart and soul STL guys. This is what the team needs, HEART AND SOUL GUYS!

Yes we give up a 1st but that will not be a early pick (lottery protected). Ottawa gets Kyrou + a 1st to replenish the one they will give up for the improper Dadonov trade. Also dump Perron's cap space.

The difference between Brady and Kyrou is not out 1st.

 

[joe galiba]

The difference between Brady and Kyrou is not out 1st.

based on what the salary difference will be, we need draft picks back