What player does this best describe?

[The Pale King]

Rob Shremp

 

[rockymtnoyster]

Yakov trenin

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Rob Shremp

He was way too Slow and small.


Josh Anderson and Jesse Puljujaarvi seem apt.

 

[God]

Usually playmakers always have good hands. What's an example of a playmaker that doesn't have good hands?

I think the Sedins were the perfect example of this. Their fundamentals were excellent; they knew how to keep body position and get open, but they had horrible hands and would pretty much never deke (and as such, would be horrible in the shootout).

I'm not sure if the OP wants current or former players, but Taylor Pyatt probably fits the bill here pretty well. And Drew O'Connor probably fits here as well.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Usually playmakers always have good hands. What's an example of a playmaker that doesn't have good hands?

Vlad Namestnikov to me is a pretty good example.

Below average (at best) hands but sets up a lot of plays with his hockey IQ and finding the soft spots in defensive zone coverage.

 

[Washed Up 29YearOld]

Usually playmakers always have good hands. What's an example of a playmaker that doesn't have good hands?

exactly. thread makes no sense

 

[Gillings]

good size with very good skating and forechecking ability. Strong in the corners and hard to knock off the puck. Also a very good puck carrier and playmaker but lacks the hands or scoring ability to be an elite player.

What player does this best describe? Hagel?

Josh Anderson

 

[ESH]

a lot of weird takes in this thread

Sedins have bad hands? One of the worst takes I’ve ever seen

Puljujarvi a bad skater? That’s one of his best attributes

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

good size with very good skating and forechecking ability. Strong in the corners and hard to knock off the puck. Also a very good puck carrier and playmaker but lacks the hands or scoring ability to be an elite player.

What player does this best describe? Hagel?

I think it might be Slafkovsky. He is hesitant to shoot but sees the ice well enough to create for others. He is already quite good leveraging his body along the boards. He just needs to build up lower body strength and improve his skating.

 

[Matty Sundin]

Todd Bertuzzi if you forget about 2001-2003 beast years

 

[God]

a lot of weird takes in this thread

Sedins have bad hands? One of the worst takes I’ve ever seen

Puljujarvi a bad skater? That’s one of his best attributes

I'm pretty sure it's universally recognized that having good hands is synonymous with stickhandling, finesse, and deking ability. Like Patrick Kane, Datsyuk, or Mackinnon.

The Sedins weren't flashy puck handlers at all, but they were probably the smartest players on the ice.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

good size with very good skating and forechecking ability. Strong in the corners and hard to knock off the puck. Also a very good puck carrier and playmaker but lacks the hands or scoring ability to be an elite player.

What player does this best describe? Hagel?

nail yakupov, honestly.

 

[StrompTroller]

came to post Josh Anderson....

 

[Winston Wolf]

Tuomo Ruutu came to my mind immediately for whatever reason.

 

[Figgy44]

Is there a dman that qualifies? I dunno, Zadorov or something?

 

[freakydallas13]

good size with very good skating and forechecking ability. Strong in the corners and hard to knock off the puck. Also a very good puck carrier and playmaker but lacks the hands or scoring ability to be an elite player.

What player does this best describe? Hagel?

Jake Voracek fits this description pretty well, though maybe he was closer to elite for his time than I'm giving him credit for.

 

[FoxyClean]

Kaapo Kakko

 

[Nicko999]

Josh Anderson

...was gonna say this...if the guy had anything but STONE for hands, he'd be a perennial 30+ goal guy; 40+ in his Prime, imo...

He was way too Slow and small.


Josh Anderson and Jesse Puljujaarvi seem apt.

came to post Josh Anderson....

I would get the comparison if the OP didn't specify playmaker. Josh Anderson career high in assists is 20 (and would guess half of those are rebounds). The guy doesn't do playmaking.

 

[biturbo19]

...was gonna say this...if the guy had anything but STONE for hands, he'd be a perennial 30+ goal guy; 40+ in his Prime, imo...

I don't really see this at all with big Josh Anderson. His hands aren't "elite" as a finisher, but his far bigger limitation is just...he doesn't read the play all that well. He's a billionty miles away from any kind of "playmaker" as OP asked about. He's a, "get puck, skate puck, shoot puck" sort of player. His lack of an elite "sniper" shot doesn't make him any better at dishing the puck to linemates to make them better in the fashion of a true "playmaker". If anything, Big Joshy's inability to mesh with more skilled, creative linemates is the biggest issue that keeps him from being an impact Top-6F. It's certainly not a lack of tools.

I think the Sedins were the perfect example of this. Their fundamentals were excellent; they knew how to keep body position and get open, but they had horrible hands and would pretty much never deke (and as such, would be horrible in the shootout).

I'm not sure if the OP wants current or former players, but Taylor Pyatt probably fits the bill here pretty well. And Drew O'Connor probably fits here as well.

I don't get this Sedin characterization either. They had absolutely bonkers hands and that was what allowed them to thrive. They were slow, not physically imposing, and even Daniel wasn't an elite shooter. Their hand-eye and detailed stickhandling in conjunction with body positioning in a phonebooth is what allowed them to become some of the best players in the world for a time. Even just the stupid All Star Skills Comp stuff demonstrated how elite their hands were in things like the "passing challenge" with those goofy tiny nets you had to hit with saucer passes.

Their lack of speed meant that they'd never pull an elaborate "end-to-end highlight reel goal". But that was a separate liability to them. Their actual hands were exceptional in tight quarters and as passers. Forehand, backhand, bank pass, tip-pass, lob pass, any kind of pass...they were both elite passers through and through, with the hands to make that happen.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Daniel winnik.

 

[Regal]

I don't really see this at all with big Josh Anderson. His hands aren't "elite" as a finisher, but his far bigger limitation is just...he doesn't read the play all that well. He's a billionty miles away from any kind of "playmaker" as OP asked about. He's a, "get puck, skate puck, shoot puck" sort of player. His lack of an elite "sniper" shot doesn't make him any better at dishing the puck to linemates to make them better in the fashion of a true "playmaker". If anything, Big Joshy's inability to mesh with more skilled, creative linemates is the biggest issue that keeps him from being an impact Top-6F. It's certainly not a lack of tools.




I don't get this Sedin characterization either. They had absolutely bonkers hands and that was what allowed them to thrive. They were slow, not physically imposing, and even Daniel wasn't an elite shooter. Their hand-eye and detailed stickhandling in conjunction with body positioning in a phonebooth is what allowed them to become some of the best players in the world for a time. Even just the stupid All Star Skills Comp stuff demonstrated how elite their hands were in things like the "passing challenge" with those goofy tiny nets you had to hit with saucer passes.

Their lack of speed meant that they'd never pull an elaborate "end-to-end highlight reel goal". But that was a separate liability to them. Their actual hands were exceptional in tight quarters and as passers. Forehand, backhand, bank pass, tip-pass, lob pass, any kind of pass...they were both elite passers through and through, with the hands to make that happen.

Yea, they weren’t dipsy doodlers like Datsyuk or breakaway burners with moves like McDavid, but you can’t do the things they did with body position and smarts alone. Even still, their Art Ross seasons saw them work a lot more off the rush and show off how good their hands were in open ice as well, there was just more of a tic tac toe element to it.

 

[Leafs87]

Tyler Bertuzzi ish

 

[Cloned]

Byfield.