2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[bleedblue1223]

We don't know if we put in a claim or not. Columbus was higher than us on the claims order.

Were they? I forgot what the standings were when the order was determined.

 

[BlueDream]

Agree, that would be a terrible idea. I guess now that some fans have decided in their own mind that Faulk "sucks" they're willing to take on a worse contract in Trouba to get rid of him. Was nice seeing Trouba get stripped of the puck and look foolish on the Kyrou goal last night though.

Only a homer would think that Trouba’s contract that takes him to age 32 is worse than Faulk’s that takes him to 35, so that checks out.

But yeah, other posters are right that Trouba won’t want to come to this team since, you know, we are really bad and Faulk looks foolish consistently in the d-zone.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Were they? I forgot what the standings were when the order was determined.

Columbus was 9th in P% we were 12th or 13th.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Of course The Fourth Period brings up a are looking for either a middle 6 center or a scoring winger. Like I would hope so

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Of course The Fourth Period brings up a are looking for either a middle 6 center or a scoring winger. Like I would hope so

It's not even reporting though. It's not that they heard it from sources. They are just speculating because we are near bottom in scoring and fired our coach. Army is likely looking to improve, but I would be surprised if he thinks winger is a priority.

 

[SirPaste]

It's not even reporting though. It's not that they heard it from sources. They are just speculating because we are near bottom in scoring and fired our coach. Army is likely looking to improve, but I would be surprised if he thinks winger is a priority.

I agree this isn't an actual report just someone's speculation. I wouldn't be surprised if he was looking at wingers as well though at all, this team needs help in the top 6 period, sure C is probably the higher priority but as of this moment we have 2 legit proven top 6 wingers and that's it, Neighbours/Bolduc could get there eventually but not really seeing it as of yet, Snuggerud is on the horizon but also a complete unknown. If there is a legit top 6 winger that fits in age wise with our core group going forward I wouldn't be shocked at all to see Army take a swing at it.

 

[Majorityof1]

I agree this isn't an actual report just someone's speculation. I wouldn't be surprised if he was looking at wingers as well though at all, this team needs help in the top 6 period, sure C is probably the higher priority but as of this moment we have 2 legit proven top 6 wingers and that's it, Neighbours/Bolduc could get there eventually but not really seeing it as of yet, Snuggerud is on the horizon but also a complete unknown. If there is a legit top 6 winger that fits in age wise with our core group going forward I wouldn't be shocked at all to see Army take a swing at it.

I'd be a bit surprised to spend big assets on a wing. I think Army has a lot off faith in Snuggy and Neigbours. I don't see him blocking them. It would have to be a great deal, buying low on someone or maybe doubling up our winger prospects for someone more established. But I don't see him trading our 1st+ for another Snugerud level wing prospect or established 2nd line wing

 

[joe galiba]

I'd be a but surprised to spend big assets on a wing. I think Army has a lot off faith in Snuggy and Neigbours. I don't see him blocking them. It would gave to be a great deal, buying low on someone or maybe doubling up our winger prospects for someone more established. But I don't see him trading our 1st+ for another Snugerud level wing prospect or established 2nd line wing

Plus Schenn should be on wing as well

 

[bleedblue1223]

Here's the relevant section. I think it's more loose speculation driven by the fact that our offense hasn't been good. Pagnotta either confirms or guesses that Army is looking, we should assume he is, but I do think what he's looking for is dependent on how he sees Dvorksy and Snuggerud factoring into this season and next. Is Army accepting the fact that we should limp best we can to the trade deadline, trim some fat, and then give those guys a chance down the stretch to see if they are ready for next season or if he has to find a stop-gap option in the summer.

I think a safe target that he'll have is a 2nd/3rd line center. I don't think he'll spend crazy, maybe someone that could play a #2 role now, but is more of an ideal #3. Someone that can slot behind Dvorsky if Dvorsky is earning it, but also someone that is good enough to push Schenn to wing permanently.

“If you get to Game 30 and Game 35 and you’re still struggling offensively, I think you have to look some other options. Maybe down the middle, maybe a 2-3 center or scoring winger, as well,” Bernstein said.

“If they’re that aggressive with the coach, where you fired a coach after 22 games, you’ve got to be that aggressive with your roster.”

Blues GM Doug Armstrong is not afraid to make bold moves, be it on or off the ice. The Blues have just under $5.5 million in current salary cap space, as per PuckPedia, giving them some flexibility to add to their roster now if the right deal falls into place.

“I think they are looking. Army is looking to add some offence to this group,” Pagnotta said. “They’re willing to make moves. They have been riddled a little bit with injuries on the backend, as well. But (at the time of taping) they’re 30th in the National Hockey League in goals-for per game. And Doug Armstrong and Alex Steen want to address that at some point.”

 

[Reality Czech]

Here's the relevant section. I think it's more loose speculation driven by the fact that our offense hasn't been good. Pagnotta either confirms or guesses that Army is looking, we should assume he is, but I do think what he's looking for is dependent on how he sees Dvorksy and Snuggerud factoring into this season and next. Is Army accepting the fact that we should limp best we can to the trade deadline, trim some fat, and then give those guys a chance down the stretch to see if they are ready for next season or if he has to find a stop-gap option in the summer.

I think a safe target that he'll have is a 2nd/3rd line center. I don't think he'll spend crazy, maybe someone that could play a #2 role now, but is more of an ideal #3. Someone that can slot behind Dvorsky if Dvorsky is earning it, but also someone that is good enough to push Schenn to wing permanently.

I get the logic but I'm not seeing a realistic target that will be a big enough difference maker that won't cost us Dvorsky, Snuggerud, Bolduc or next year's first. Maybe they'll make a move once we see if we're actually playoff contenders and other teams drop out of the race. Seems there are few sellers now and anyone worth getting won't come cheap.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I get the logic but I'm not seeing a realistic target that will be a big enough difference maker that won't cost us Dvorsky, Snuggerud, Bolduc or next year's first. Maybe they'll make a move once we see if we're actually playoff contenders and other teams drop out of the race. Seems there are few sellers now and anyone worth getting won't come cheap.

I don't think we are targeting anyone of that quality. I'm thinking more of someone like Bozak from 2018-2020. I think it's more likely, Schenn just continues to fill that role until Dvorsky is ready.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

I don't think we are targeting anyone of that quality. I'm thinking more of someone like Bozak from 2018-2020. I think it's more likely, Schenn just continues to fill that role until Dvorsky is ready.

That's my thinking. A vet with 2, max 3 remaining on their contract. Someone who you can play comfortably on the 2nd line while Dvorsky gets his footing at the 3C, and would be willing to play out the final year or so of his deal as a 3C.

He's a bit younger than the age of the hypothetical player I was thinking about, but I've always liked Sam Bennett who will be 29 and looking for a new contract. I assume the Panthers are going to want to keep him around but he hasn't signed an extension and I wouldn't mind seeing him in the Bluenote. He's a guy you can ink to a long-term deal who offers flexibility to be moved to 3C or a spot on the wing as he ages. I like his hard-nosed style and if we're going to play the brand of hockey that Monty has talked about, he'd fit in well. He plays guitar like O'Reilly if we want that back on the bus.

 

[Spektre]

I get the logic but I'm not seeing a realistic target that will be a big enough difference maker that won't cost us Dvorsky, Snuggerud, Bolduc or next year's first. Maybe they'll make a move once we see if we're actually playoff contenders and other teams drop out of the race. Seems there are few sellers now and anyone worth getting won't come cheap.

I've scoured all of the teams' multiple times, and I can't find a fit that makes sense for both clubs. Frost makes some sense and would help the C position. I'm not enamored with him. I can't see Detroit willing to trade Larkin, I would be inquiring anyway.

I can't figure out what Detroit is trying to do.

 

[Brian39]

Edit: I didn't realize how far behind the thread I was reading. No need to re-open a settled conversation.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

I've scoured all of the teams' multiple times, and I can't find a fit that makes sense for both clubs. Frost makes some sense and would help the C position. I'm not enamored with him. I can't see Detroit willing to trade Larkin, I would be inquiring anyway.

I can't figure out what Detroit is trying to do.

Detroit is in the 'make the playoffs' part of the rebuild process. They just haven't been effective at building a roster to do it.

Not enough high end talent on that team. They can't score goals this year.

 

[Brian39]

I'm not interested in trading for Trouba mid-season because there is at least some chance that he doesn't report to our team this year even if we aren't on his no trade list.

He is using every ounce of leverage to avoid being moved out of New York this year while his wife finishes her residency. There was speculation over the summer that he would consider not reporting to a new team.

I personally believe that is his agent is lying massaging the truth to cool the trade market, but maybe he is actually willing to lose $4M-$5M in salary to stay with his family. But you have to be willing to make any trade in a reality where the agent is telling you that the player might not report to your team. We just brought in a new long-term coach. I'm not trading Faulk for a guy who might not be here this year, is on the wrong side of 30, AND doesn't have much term left on his deal.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I've scoured all of the teams' multiple times, and I can't find a fit that makes sense for both clubs. Frost makes some sense and would help the C position. I'm not enamored with him. I can't see Detroit willing to trade Larkin, I would be inquiring anyway.

I can't figure out what Detroit is trying to do.

I think Yzerman is the problem. He was great, but now he's not. Stevie Y has regressed as an exec.

 

[Stealth JD]

I think Yzerman is the problem. He was great, but now he's not. Stevie Y has regressed as an exec.

Yep. Lost the ole heat on the fastball. Or maybe mental decline. Guys do sometimes just become less capable.

OR…and this may be crazy for even saying it…he’s just been unlucky in the draft. Unable to find franchise caliber talent later in the draft, and a victim of some unfortunate lottery luck from the ping-pong balls. I mean either are possible. He probably did just go dumb.

 

[PocketNines]

I just framed a photo of Trouba yesterday! (DO NOT WANT)

 

[Drubilly]

I just framed a photo of Trouba yesterday! (DO NOT WANT)

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To be clear you don't want Trouba or the framed picture?

 

[PocketNines]

To be clear you don't want Trouba or the framed picture?

My Blackhawks-rooting inlaws are here this week so I framed 13 pictures and put them all around the dinner table last night

 

[Drubilly]

My Blackhawks-rooting inlaws are here this week so I framed 13 pictures and put them all around the dinner table last night

Atta boiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Frenzy31]

Yep. Lost the ole heat on the fastball. Or maybe mental decline. Guys do sometimes just become less capable.

OR…and this may be crazy for even saying it…he’s just been unlucky in the draft. Unable to find franchise caliber talent later in the draft, and a victim of some unfortunate lottery luck from the ping-pong balls. I mean either are possible. He probably did just go dumb.

He has also spent a lot of draft capital on the back end. That takes a bit to develop.

How long has be been in Detroit again? They had nothing when he arrived and a pretty weak system.

 

[joe galiba]

He has also spent a lot of draft capital on the back end. That takes a bit to develop.

How long has be been in Detroit again? They had nothing when he arrived and a pretty weak system.

2019

 

[Frenzy31]

5 years. He should be on the up swing I think.