2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[greybush314]

Do you think Ottawa will be more willing to trade Brady Tkachuk now? Will be interesting if he starts hearing boos at home after this tournament.

 

[TheDizee]

Do you think Ottawa will be more willing to trade Brady Tkachuk now? Will be interesting if he starts hearing boos at home after this tournament.

I think his price goes up the more we see of him here. He 100% plays Blues style of winning hockey.

He is EXACTLY what our team needs. So was his brother and we let that one get away.

 

[Mike Liut]

I think his price goes up the more we see of him here. He 100% plays Blues style of winning hockey.

He is EXACTLY what our team needs. So was his brother and we let that one get away.

Didn’t he say he didn’t want to sign an extension in STL? He said playing in his hometown would be too much of a distraction. I love STL, but I’d pick sunny Miami too.

 

[Reality Czech]

Didn’t he say he didn’t want to sign an extension in STL? He said playing in his hometown would be too much of a distraction. I love STL, but I’d pick sunny Miami too.

In an interview with Tkachuk himself (pretty sure it was Cam and Strick) he said there were 3 teams in on him that he was willing to go to and the Blues were one of them. However, I'm guessing that we weren't able to offer a package an enticing as Calgary did. Unless he was just lying, he sounded like he would have been perfectly happy to come home to play.

I'm not sure what the Blues could have offered to beat Huberdeau, Weegar and a 1st. Tarasenko and Krug weren't likely to waive to go to Canada and I bet it would have taken some serious cap gymnastics to make it happen. And during covid it was next to impossible to move salary.

 

[greybush314]

I think his price goes up the more we see of him here. He 100% plays Blues style of winning hockey.

He is EXACTLY what our team needs. So was his brother and we let that one get away.

I don't think we had the pieces to beat out Florida's offer for Matthew. I don't know what it'd take to trade for Brady but wouldn't have anyone off the board to deal for him.

 

[TheDizee]

I don't think we had the pieces to beat out Florida's offer for Matthew. I don't know what it'd take to trade for Brady but wouldn't have anyone off the board to deal for him.

Only 1s I don't trade on this team are Thomas, Parayko, Holloway and Broberg. I'd have to be overwhelmed to get rid of Sunny and I still have faith in Binner long term to bounce back.

Everyone else on the roster is available.

In an interview with Tkachuk himself (pretty sure it was Cam and Strick) he said there were 3 teams in on him that he was willing to go to and the Blues were one of them. However, I'm guessing that we weren't able to offer a package an enticing as Calgary did. Unless he was just lying, he sounded like he would have been perfectly happy to come home to play.

I'm not sure what the Blues could have offered to beat Huberdeau, Weegar and a 1st. Tarasenko and Krug weren't likely to waive to go to Canada and I bet it would have taken some serious cap gymnastics to make it happen. And during covid it was next to impossible to move salary.

IIRC It would have taken 1 of Tarasenko or Kyrou (likely Kyrou) + numerous picks including a 1st + Krug OR Faulk as a cap dump which would have required more assets going their way.

 

[Reality Czech]

Only 1s I don't trade on this team are Thomas, Parayko, Holloway and Broberg. I'd have to be overwhelmed to get rid of Sunny and I still have faith in Binner long term to bounce back.

Everyone else on the roster is available.


IIRC It would have taken 1 of Tarasenko or Kyrou (likely Kyrou) + numerous picks including a 1st + Krug OR Faulk as a cap dump which would have required more assets going their way.

In terms of value you're probably not far off, but which of those guys would have waived for Calgary? I'm guessing none of them. So then we would have needed other moves just to give us a chance to get Matthew, which would have been extremely difficult in the flat cap world.

Trust me, I would have moved heaven and earth to get Matthew and I bet that Army tried to do what he could. Unfortunately Florida was in a better position to land him. You could argue that the NTCs tied Army's hands, which is fair, but who's to say those guys would have signed their contracts without a NTC?

 

[greybush314]

If we could move Kyrou, Bolduc and our 1st for Tkachuk would you? Probably an overpay but we'll have to overpay to get him.

Tkachuk-Thomas-Snuggerud
Holloway-Dvorsky-Buchnevich
Neighbours-Schenn-Texier

Hell of a top 9 going forward. Alot of skill and physicality on every line.

 

[ezcreepin]

If we could move Kyrou, Bolduc and our 1st for Tkachuk would you? Probably an overpay but we'll have to overpay to get him.

Tkachuk-Thomas-Snuggerud
Holloway-Dvorsky-Buchnevich
Neighbours-Schenn-Texier

Hell of a top 9 going forward. Alot of skill and physicality on every line.

Great on paper, but you're asking a lot of the younger players who have yet to play a game in the NHL. We got lucky with how Holloway is playing and Neighbours has slowed down goal wise but still playing good hockey.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

If we could move Kyrou, Bolduc and our 1st for Tkachuk would you? Probably an overpay but we'll have to overpay to get him.

Tkachuk-Thomas-Snuggerud
Holloway-Dvorsky-Buchnevich
Neighbours-Schenn-Texier

Hell of a top 9 going forward. Alot of skill and physicality on every line.

Kyrou and Tkachuk are 65th and 66th in the league in scoring.

So we are adding two additional 1st round value assets on top of our top scorer to get someone on a worse contract that we are getting to get taken behind a woodshed to sign in a couple years time who will provide us similar production all because he has the last name Tkachuk.

if he didnt have the last name Tkachuk no one on this board would think twice about him.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

If we could move Kyrou, Bolduc and our 1st for Tkachuk would you? Probably an overpay but we'll have to overpay to get him.

Tkachuk-Thomas-Snuggerud
Holloway-Dvorsky-Buchnevich
Neighbours-Schenn-Texier

Hell of a top 9 going forward. Alot of skill and physicality on every line.

No way I do that. We wouldn’t be contender during most of BT contract and would then have to pay up big.

 

[TheDizee]

Kyrou and Tkachuk are 65th and 66th in the league in scoring.

So we are adding two additional 1st round value assets on top of our top scorer to get someone on a worse contract that we are getting to get taken behind a woodshed to sign in a couple years time who will provide us similar production all because he has the last name Tkachuk.

if he didnt have the last name Tkachuk no one on this board would think twice about him.

True but his last name being Tkachuk is exactly why he is going to up his play on a nightly basis wearing the Bluenote. Look at how he plays for team usa, his home country. He will play for his hometown that way too.

Bolduc Kyrou and a 1st is too much UNLESS Ottawa adds more to the pot as well.

 

[BlueMed]

Kyrou and Tkachuk are 65th and 66th in the league in scoring.

So we are adding two additional 1st round value assets on top of our top scorer to get someone on a worse contract that we are getting to get taken behind a woodshed to sign in a couple years time who will provide us similar production all because he has the last name Tkachuk.

if he didnt have the last name Tkachuk no one on this board would think twice about him.

No way I do that. We wouldn’t be contender during most of BT contract and would then have to pay up big.

Those are all good points, and I'm not necessarily disagreeing. I will point out that there can be big differences between 2 players despite having similar production. I have noted that Brady Tkachuk's PIM is a problem, but he embodies Blues' hockey and how our organization wants players to play, and our leadership group needs to be questioned at this time. I never gave David Backes enough credit for his leadership ability when he had much more success with Steen and Oshie compared to our current forward core right now.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Those are all good points, and I'm not necessarily disagreeing. I will point out that there can be big differences between 2 players despite having similar production. I have noted that Brady Tkachuk's PIM is a problem, but he embodies Blues' hockey and how our organization wants players to play, and our leadership group needs to be questioned at this time. I never gave David Backes enough credit for his leadership ability when he had much more success with Steen and Oshie compared to our current forward core right now.

Brady has a better surrounding cast than Backes and what has that leadership that is so so amazing done for Ottawa. Ottawa has missed the playoffs for 7 years straight and have now just finally this year they sit in the Wild Card Spot. His leadership isn't worth losing 2 1st round level aspects on top of our most consistent and highest scoring player.

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

If we could move Kyrou, Bolduc and our 1st for Tkachuk would you? Probably an overpay but we'll have to overpay to get him.

Tkachuk-Thomas-Snuggerud
Holloway-Dvorsky-Buchnevich
Neighbours-Schenn-Texier

Hell of a top 9 going forward. Alot of skill and physicality on every line.

Back in the day, we turned 4 quarters into a dollar for Brady's dad. Handzus, Nagy, Taffe (our 1st rounder from 2000) and a Conditional 2001 1st to the Yotes for Keith Tkachuk.

Handzus was a playoff stalwart for many years after the trade. Nagy was a very respectable middle-6 winger. Taffe flamed out, but was still a high-value item when he was traded. We lost our 2001 1st rounder due to """tampering""" with Scott Stevens, so PHX drafted Ben Eager #23 OA in 2002, one pick before Alex Steen.

Obviously circumstances are different today than they were in 2001 (to say the least). But the point is, I don't regret that price tag. We traded two good NHL pieces, and two high-value futures pieces to get one A+ piece. That makes sense to do if you believe that hockey is a strong link sport, and one A+ piece is worth more than what it costs to acquire them.

Amid all the Schenn trade chatter, I've been wondering who the captain would be without him here. I don't think there's a clear and obvious answer there. Brady Tkachuk would be that guy for us, no question. He's the kind of guy that would drag his teammates into a dogfight every night if he needed to. I think that has value beyond pure production, although I have no doubt that he and Rob Thom would develop quick chemistry together. It's an element we're direly missing.

So I don't know that I would be happy trading Kyrou -- I'd rather that piece be someone else -- but I absolutely think that we would be happy acquiring Brady, whatever the price ended up being.

 

[BlueMed]

Brady has a better surrounding cast than Backes and what has that leadership that is so so amazing done for Ottawa. Ottawa has missed the playoffs for 7 years straight and have now just finally this year they sit in the Wild Card Spot. His leadership isn't worth losing 2 1st round level aspects on top of our most consistent and highest scoring player.

Again, I'm not convinced I would do that trade either, but your argument that Tkachuk's value over Kyrou's is purely based on his last name is simply not true. There are very valid criticisms right now with our core group's level of intensity on a night to night basis. Look at the Tkachuk brothers last night coming to fight team Canada at the opening faceoff. That's the type of intensity that Backes brought consistently to this organization, and I am hard-pressed to believe that the swirling trade rumors surrounding this team is a fabrication.

 

[Spektre]

Only 1s I don't trade on this team are Thomas, Parayko, Holloway and Broberg. I'd have to be overwhelmed to get rid of Sunny and I still have faith in Binner long term to bounce back.

Everyone else on the roster is available.


IIRC It would have taken 1 of Tarasenko or Kyrou (likely Kyrou) + numerous picks including a 1st + Krug OR Faulk as a cap dump which would have required more assets going their way.

Dude, Sundqvist is playing on fumes. He’s not a good player anymore. I would say this is his final year in the NHL if he wasn’t already signed for next season

 

[TheDizee]

Dude, Sundqvist is playing on fumes. He’s not a good player anymore. I would say this is his final year in the NHL if he wasn’t already signed for next season

Don't care. I want him on my team. Then he can retire and take over for Jamie Rivers.

 

[LetsGoBooze]

If our 1st ends up being 9th or later im easily pairing it w/Kyrou for Brady. I still like Kyrou, but we cant miss an opportunity to bring in a heart and soul guy like Brady in during his absolute prime. Sure were gonna pay a ton for him in a few years w/his new contract, but if he brings it every night for the next decade he'll be worth it.

 

[BlueMed]

If our 1st ends up being 9th or later im easily pairing it w/Kyrou for Brady. I still like Kyrou, but we cant miss an opportunity to bring in a heart and soul guy like Brady in during his absolute prime. Sure were gonna pay a ton for him in a few years w/his new contract, but if he brings it every night for the next decade he'll be worth it.

I'm starting to agree. My draft threshold will depend on which players are left and what those remaining players show before the draft, but I have a hard time imagining that Kyrou will be here for the entirety of his contract, and his trade value is pretty decent right now.

 

[Xerloris]

Back in the day, we turned 4 quarters into a dollar for Brady's dad. Handzus, Nagy, Taffe (our 1st rounder from 2000) and a Conditional 2001 1st to the Yotes for Keith Tkachuk.

Handzus was a playoff stalwart for many years after the trade. Nagy was a very respectable middle-6 winger. Taffe flamed out, but was still a high-value item when he was traded. We lost our 2001 1st rounder due to """tampering""" with Scott Stevens, so PHX drafted Ben Eager #23 OA in 2002, one pick before Alex Steen.

Obviously circumstances are different today than they were in 2001 (to say the least). But the point is, I don't regret that price tag. We traded two good NHL pieces, and two high-value futures pieces to get one A+ piece. That makes sense to do if you believe that hockey is a strong link sport, and one A+ piece is worth more than what it costs to acquire them.

Amid all the Schenn trade chatter, I've been wondering who the captain would be without him here. I don't think there's a clear and obvious answer there. Brady Tkachuk would be that guy for us, no question. He's the kind of guy that would drag his teammates into a dogfight every night if he needed to. I think that has value beyond pure production, although I have no doubt that he and Rob Thom would develop quick chemistry together. It's an element we're direly missing.

So I don't know that I would be happy trading Kyrou -- I'd rather that piece be someone else -- but I absolutely think that we would be happy acquiring Brady, whatever the price ended up being.

I love the idea of the Tkachuks being here but Neither of the brothers are Their dad.

 

[Reality Czech]

Kyrou and Tkachuk are 65th and 66th in the league in scoring.

So we are adding two additional 1st round value assets on top of our top scorer to get someone on a worse contract that we are getting to get taken behind a woodshed to sign in a couple years time who will provide us similar production all because he has the last name Tkachuk.

if he didnt have the last name Tkachuk no one on this board would think twice about him.

That last line is a bit ridiculous. Every fan base in the league would love to have Brady on their team regardless of his last name. Kyrou scores points but is as vanilla as they come. He doesn't have the personality to be a team leader and I could count on one hand the number of times I've seen him show fire or passion on the ice. If this team lacks drive and leadership than upgrading from Kyrou to Brady would go a long way in addressing that.

That being said, I'm not sure I'd trade Kyrou, Bolduc and a first for Brady. Kyrou + Bolduc OR a first absolutely and then add smaller pieces if necessary.

 

[PeoriaBlues309]

The time to trade for Brady was before this tournament. He was already going to cost more than he should, and after this the price will be even higher.

I think we missed our window.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Sens are in a playoff position, Brady was never realistically available. The only slight chance this season was if Ottawa struggled and they thought he'd eventually leave as UFA, and they'd want to trade him now before his NMC kicks in to maximize the return. Even then, he still has 3 years left, so I even doubt that scenario.

I do think he'll be on the market as he approaches UFA status, we should hopfully be a playoff team by then, so we'll see if a match is made later.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Sens are in a playoff position, Brady was never realistically available. The only slight chance this season was if Ottawa struggled and they thought he'd eventually leave as UFA, and they'd want to trade him now before his NMC kicks in to maximize the return. Even then, he still has 3 years left, so I even doubt that scenario.

I do think he'll be on the market as he approaches UFA status, we should hopfully be a playoff team by then, so we'll see if a match is made later.

They are building around Brady. He will only be dealt if he lets them know he wants to leave.