2024-2025 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread.

[CaliforniaBlues310]

I’ve seen our fans in the past go from playoffs to a top 5 pick in a 5 game span.

HFBlues is in old midseason form. I almost missed it lol.

 

[AyeBah]

Kessel and Leddy are not NHL caliber dmen. If those two are in your top 6 you're not a playoff team

 

[Reality Czech]

How over 50% of the voters thought the Blues are a playoff team is surprising to me. I agree with everything P9 said above…this team is glaringly short on talent and needs a massive infusion of top-of-the-draft skill. But adding one forward or one defenseman to this group isn’t going to fix much. They need several high-end pieces to help Thomas, Kyrou and Buchnevich.

I assume D. Armstrong is just trying to instill confidence and a sense of trust when he says this club should compete for a playoff spot. Deep down he’s got to know what an inferior group he has assembled. There are a whole lot of third and fourth line forwards on this club, and a void of 50% of the required top-6 talent.

The defense needs two more top-4 guys to be formidable and a clear #1 has to be found. Parayko and Faulk at best are 2/3’s if partnered with a stud they don’t have. Broberg and Leddy would be ok as 4’s, but ideally the latter would be your #5.

Binner is going to earn the club a lot more points than they deserve…but this is still a bottom-10 roster even with his heroics. If the wheels come off, they could be drafting top-6 and I’d be surprised none. I’d be more surprised to see them make the playoffs than I would be to see them finish 7th in the Central.

An inferior group he has assembled? Everyone knew the deal coming into this season so why are fans acting surprised? It's a transition year to let the kids and prospects develop. Not sure what magical moves Doug could have made this summer to satisfy you and the always complaining crowd. I'd say he did pretty well this past summer considering who we got and what we gave up.

But these hot takes after 4 games mean very little in the long term. Every season has ups and downs and yet fans seem to forget that. I mean we're friggin .500 after 4 games and some fans are already in crisis mode lol.

Regarding d corps, I don't think anyone believes our group is enough to contend but Florida just won a Cup with Mikkola as their number 4. So I question if a team truly needs as much talent on the back end as you're suggesting.

 

[Majorityof1]

An inferior group he has assembled? Everyone knew the deal coming into this season so why are fans acting surprised? It's a transition year to let the kids and prospects develop. Not sure what magical moves Doug could have made this summer to satisfy you and the always complaining crowd. I'd say he did pretty well this past summer considering who we got and what we gave up.

But these hot takes after 4 games mean very little in the long term. Every season has ups and downs and yet fans seem to forget that. I mean we're friggin .500 after 4 games and some fans are already in crisis mode lol.

Regarding d corps, I don't think anyone believes our group is enough to contend but Florida just won a Cup with Mikkola as their number 4. So I question if a team truly needs as much talent on the back end as you're suggesting.

Mikkola as a 4 but their top 2 Forsling and Montour are better by a good margin than anyone we have. They have elite forwards in Tkachuk and Barkov. Reinheart and Verhagee played elite at ppg. Good depth at forward supplamented by Tarasenko on tgec3rd line.. An elite goalie. But sure, we are right with them cause their 4th D is way underrated by this fanbase

 

[PocketNines]

so just to be clear, despite consistently saying these things I am a fan who is now acting surprised and having hot takes.

there's a type of bad faith that attacks opinion in a blanket whenever something negative comes near them and that is what we have over and over and over and over here.

it's silly, it's all driven by a fear of something, the way a fanatic has a fervor. there's a great line in one of the films of Le Carre where Gary Oldman is talking about how he knew the fanatacism of his adversary gave him the edge, because he knew it covered a kernel of hidden doubt about its truth.

so the real story is the kernel of hidden doubt within one poster over and over who levels the same flip accusations. that poster must harbor a real deep doubt in actuality.

 

[BrokenFace]

I’ve seen our fans in the past go from playoffs to a top 5 pick in a 5 game span.

Fans are emotional and struggle to be objective (myself included), but I think this might just be what it feels like to follow a middling team. They easily look like a playoff team for stretches, then they easily look like a bottom 10 team for stretches. Not consistently good or a bad so they end up in the middle. The mood of the fans will swing with their recent performance, but the long view ends up in the middle. We finished 16th last year and that's about I'd expect us to finish this year until I see more consistency. We can't keep finishing there or else we're the new Flames/Flyers(minus Michkov)/Wild.

 

[Sgt Schultz]

There was an old railroad engineer that described a new steam engine he had been driving by saying, "when she's good, she's great. But when she's bad, she's awful."

That's where we were last year, and I'm not sure why anybody expected much better this year. All we can expect is that there is a little more great than awful throughout the season.

Fans in all sports tend to let their expectations get too high when times are good and balance that out by getting too low when things are not. We are no exception.