Prospect Info: 2023 WJC Thread

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that was certainly the case going into the year, which in fairness, sure, it's a risk, but so could fantilli spend his entire time at michigan and hit free agency afterward. honestly, people are definitely questioning the talent and probably more so projectability of his talent at this point. ultimately, i think it's just galaxy braining one of the more talented prospects we've seen in recent memory. here's one example if you would like to read up on the counter-arguments: The Conundrum of Matvei Michkov
But that Fantilli situation is way way less likely. He’s not gonna do that. Not comparable or similar whatsoever. He’s gonna play next year very likely or the year after if not. Michkov is legitimately a risk. He’s not coming over for 3 years and then Russia and Russians are unpredictable. It’s a legitimate risk. How much weight it carry’s is the debate but I can understand either side of the argument.
 
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I'm not sure how much draft writing I'll have the time to do this year (full-time job, looking to buy a bar and writing a novel, a lot on my plate) but I'd like to say that I'm uncomfortable moving either Carlsson or Fantilli over Michkov at #2. I feel that, much like Bedard, Michkov is an unconsciously prodigal scoring machine and he's just so good at creating offense there almost aren't enough words to describe it.

I prefer Fantilli to Carlsson even though I'd rank Carlsson higher in terms of passing acuity and hockey IQ, two of my strongest category weights for a center. I just feel Fantilli's athleticism makes him a match-up impossibility, and I prefer his tendency to always take the puck to the middle to Carlsson's more perimeter game. Make no mistake, these are both brilliant, brilliant prospects and a lot can change. But right now I'm still at Fantilli at #3 and Carlsson at #4.

In your defense, I'd have to say that Fantilli was downright awful in Canada's openin loss vs. Czechia, and the Canadians might have made a big mistake leaving Owen Beck at home and opting for a still-slightly-immature Fantilli as the 2C. Carlsson has been very good -- though not quite exceptional -- in Sweden's opening victories against somewhat questionable competition in Austria and Germany. If anything, Bedard was Canada's best player in the opener and expanded his already sizable lead at #1, and my biggest regret for the 2023 WJC is not being able to watch Michkov play in it.

Thanks again for the praise, and of course I love reading all of your terrific posts, as well.
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It's going to be fun to envision the bluelines for both the Devils and Columbus in 5 years, and they'll likely be two of the best in the NHL.

Let's take a stab:

NJ 2028-29
L. Hughes-Marino
Siegenthaler-Nemec
Mukhamadullin-Hamilton
somehow not making the cut: Okhotyuk, Vilen, Casey, etc etc etc
If these pairings happen to come to fruition, those “spare” parts could go along way in acquiring that pure goal scorer we desperately need.
 

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great write ups as always STI. question for you, what's your comfort level on moving carlsson over fantilli? i've had leo behind only bedard and michkov for a bit now. nothing against fantilli, who encapsulates just about everything an nhl gm would want in a prospect, but i think carlsson has more of that soft skill that's gonna let him hit a higher threshold at the next level. always looks composed, always drives the middle, always seems to be making the right play. the way he responds to pressure and navigates through traffic is absurd, it looks like he's skating through open ice. fantilli's toolkit is amazing and lets him overwhelm most opponents he goes against, but i don't think it's as far away from carlsson's tools as leo's mental game is from fantilli's. even last year with the steel i always felt there was a little bit left to be desired from fantilli's processing of the game. still plenty of time to go in the season and i'll have no issue flipping my opinion should i see things change, but i really do wonder if carlsson can follow that barkov path of going 2OA, having the pick questioned (more heavily due to being european), and then ultimately live up to the pedigree
You are asking the wrong guy.
I have Carlsson as number 2-3 before things were getting started. In fairness, I can say - its very strong top 4 and we don't really know who will translate the game better. We just don't know. I like iq and two way game of Carlsson more, but he has some technical issues. On the other hand he is so good and definitely will work on his weakest sides of the game.
 

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If I'm a team drafting, say, 9th overall and Michkov falls past the top 3 -- well, let's just say I'm on the phone offering the moon and stars to move up to #4 or -- and this is actually possible given how dumb some NHL GMs are -- even #5 to pick a kid whose upside is, no joke, multiple Art Ross Trophies.

My advice to anyone reading negativity about Matvey Michkov is to ignore the criticism -- often by people who don't even watch the VHL -- and stream one of his games for SKA-Neva St. Petersburg. The VHL is the Russian version of the AHL and Michkov is the best scorer in the league -- with a December 2004 birthday. It's unreal. He's just so dynamic and creative, he's virtually unstoppable.

Make no mistake, Michkov is the #2 prospect in this draft behind only the sublime Conor Bedard. In fact, he'd be my clear-cut #1 in 2022, 2021 and 2020. He's just that spectacular.

Who cares. He is risky. You know - risky.
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Everybody who rank him lower than 4 are stupid. Read it again. They are stupid. If you, my reader, read it and you think you would rank him lower than 4, you are stupid. Google mind pills, go back to school, reconsider your life, and at the same time rewatch the adult league VHL. If your opinion does not change and you continue to refer to some "specialists" who agree with you - you are a danger to society, quit power plants if you work there or any other socially significant work, start writing music, you don't need a basic iq for a sense of rhythm.
If you think the same way about Carlsson or you don`t think Bedard doesn`t deserve to be 1OA - read again this massage.
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btw, Steve, congrats with bar and novel. Great you are focus on that. Hope it makes you happier and calmer. It`s a good news.
 

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The trick to buying thr bar is to have other people work there with you to free you up to turning your ideas into literary excellence. I have an idea for a novel for you. It’s about a middle aged lawyer who gets yelled at by his wife for always being wrong his kids tell him he’s old and even his dogs bark at him reprovingly. But deep down he’s actually a moron. I think it will be riveting.
If you use the camera on your phone, you can shoot a horror-liv(f)e movie. It's very modern now.
 

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If you use the camera on your phone, you can shoot a horror-liv(f)e movie. It's very modern now.
I wouldn't want children to be exposed to something that scary. it's horrifying enough for my kids knowing I am their dad. I can't imagine doing that to anyone else's kids.
 

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Just googled his parents house and yeah Jesus Christ 😂

Yeah and he also started Gentry academy which is a private high school almost specifically just so cruz and chaz had a triple A program to play hockey in the twin cities at the time when they were coming up in like 6/7/8 grade, and after they left the team shockingly was dissolved and now field a random varsity team lol. Definition of crazy hockey parents. Rubbed bob motzko at the U of M the real wrong way and chaz left after a year and cruz decommitted and went to Wisconsin.

To keep things relevant.... i'm not sure what to think of Chaz's development. He looks good at the moment, but can't help but think his development path is looking like sh** after leaving umn early, going to ahl and kinda struggling. Guess we'll see how he plays rest of th u20's
 

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Nemec assist on the goal. Great littlee play inn his own zone creates the breakout, leads to the goal. 1-0 SVK.
 

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