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Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v2 | Sun, Apr 16 | vs TB | 1:30pm ET/10:30am PT | McClanahan vs Manoah

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The fact that Austin Meadows just went on the DL with anxiety makes me wonder if they can have Berrios sit down with a sports psychologist and see if there's a way to DL him for a while so he can go on rehab and work through things. because honestly this has to be between the ears with him. His velo isn't down appreciably. His control hasn't deserted him. His pitch mix hasn't changed massively before the limited sample size swinginess of this year. Fangraphs doesn't have PitchFX data available anymore (or has it paywalled behind their membership feature) so I can't see pitch movement data to see if his fastball has flattened out or anything (Brooks Baseball also doesn't seem to have easy front-end access to pitcher data. Berrios' player card is only for his times hitting in interleague play) nor can I find info on his heat map to see if he's just suddenly grooving it up over the plate with regularity.

This has to be some sort of weird yips thing or something. Because guys don't just magically lose it for no discernible reason.
 
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What a stupid decision to run. Should be 2 on 1 out.

The Nemesis said:
The fact that Austin Meadows just went on the DL with anxiety makes me wonder if they can have Berrios sit down with a sports psychologist and see if there's a way to DL him for a while so he can go on rehab and work through things. because honestly this has to be between the ears with him. His velo isn't down appreciably. His control hasn't deserted him. His pitch mix hasn't changed massively before the limited sample size swinginess of this year. Fangraphs doesn't have PitchFX data available anymore (or has it paywalled behind their membership feature) so I can't see pitch movement data to see if his fastball has flattened out or anything (Brooks Baseball also doesn't seem to have easy front-end access to pitcher data. Berrios' player card is only for his times hitting in interleague play) nor can I find info on his heat map to see if he's just suddenly grooving it up over the plate with regularity.

This has to be some sort of weird yips thing or something. Because guys don't just magically lose it for no discernible reason.
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If you trust the basic Gameday app, he’s grooving pitches right into the hitting plane.
 
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Why did Bichette try to steal? Terrible f***ing move when we're down 2 runs. 1 run? I can see. 2? Just f***ing stay put. We'd be down 1 right now.
 
Cloned said:
What a stupid decision to run. Should be 2 on 1 out.


If you trust the basic Gameday app, he’s grooving pitches right into the hitting plane.
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I'm lookng for season-long or multi-season trends with enough data points to drown out any small sample noise. Cause if he was just heaving it over the plate all the time he shouldn't have any good innings or games at all. The fact that he can settle down and put up 3 good innings before the wheels fall off, or have like 16 or 17 starts last season where he went at least 6 with 3 ER or less against.

Literally half of his starts last season were good to great. Then in the middle of a run of good starts he'll pitch a 4-inning dud where he gets lit up for 8 runs on 8 hits (but never with any walks to speak of. Seriously, his season-high for walks in a game was 3.)

It's baffling. Besides that, if he is grooving it then he's doing it on purpose (or "on purpose") and it's not like he's just lost his handle and things tend to leak over the plate because if his command went poof he should have more trouble keeping it in the zone.
 
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I'm lookng for season-long or multi-season trends with enough data points to drown out any small sample noise. Cause if he was just heaving it over the plate all the time he shouldn't have any good innings or games at all. The fact that he can settle down and put up 3 good innings before the wheels fall off, or have like 16 or 17 starts last season where he went at least 6 with 3 ER or less against.

Literally half of his starts last season were good to great. Then in the middle of a run of good starts he'll pitch a 4-inning dud where he gets lit up for 8 runs on 8 hits (but never with any walks to speak of. Seriously, his season-high for walks in a game was 3.)

It's baffling. Besides that, if he is grooving it then he's doing it on purpose (or "on purpose") and it's not like he's just lost his handle and things tend to leak over the plate because if his command went poof he should have more trouble keeping it in the zone.
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He’s turned into an inconsistent pitcher who is alternately either easy to read or throws bad pitches. Sure he’ll have some good innings and good games, but that can be said for almost every starting pitcher.
 
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He’s turned into an inconsistent pitcher who is alternately either easy to read or throws bad pitches. Sure he’ll have some good innings and good games, but that can be said for almost every starting pitcher.
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Guys that do that usually have like 1 good start and then 4 bad ones. Or a couple strong innings and then suck for the next 7 or 8. Berrios was almost literally a coin flip last season and in any given game he can give you 3 or 4 strong innings before exploding. They also tend to come undone more and more the longer things go on.

He shouldn't be this... consistently inconsistent I guess is the best term for it. It's just so weird.
 
The Nemesis said:
Guys that do that usually have like 1 good start and then 4 bad ones. Or a couple strong innings and then suck for the next 7 or 8. Berrios was almost literally a coin flip last season and in any given game he can give you 3 or 4 strong innings before exploding. They also tend to come undone more and more the longer things go on.

He shouldn't be this... consistently inconsistent I guess is the best term for it. It's just so weird.
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This season is still young, give it time, he’s likely only going to get consistently worse from this point on.

I remember posting after his trade here that even then in his limited starts here there were warning signs of him not being the pitcher everyone believed he was.

He just didn’t show the type of reliability pitch to pitch and inning to inning that gives you confidence. By contrast, Gausmann came in and was reliable and consistent right from the start.
 
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That’s crazy. Not sure why Luplow wasn’t put in there
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Like, you brought up Luplow because of how lefty heavy the Angels are, and down 2 runs in the 8th with a man on you choose to not replace the guy who's struggling an insane amount, ESPECIALLY against a lefty. I don't normally complain about Schneider, but that feels like a boneheaded move.

Not that it matters though if Bass is throwing hangers right down the f***ing middle.
 
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Like, you brought up Luplow because of how lefty heavy the Angels are, and down 2 runs in the 8th with a man on you choose to not replace the guy who's struggling an insane amount, ESPECIALLY against a lefty. I don't normally complain about Schneider, but that feels like a boneheaded move.

Not that it matters though if Bass is throwing hangers right down the f***ing middle.
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Schneider has made a few weird decisions. If Luplow is going to be on the team, that’s the good spot to use him. Belt has sucked and a lefty vs lefty.
 
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Carlos Estevez?

... the angels signed Charlie Sheen?

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Kirk to my eyes has looked like shit behind the plate this year. No idea what the numbers are saying (obviously a SSS), but the load on that throw after a pretty quick pop just can't happen if you want to throw out a guy. Anyone with half decent speed can go at will if he's throwing like that. With that and Jano's weakish arm we might have a bunch of trouble with steals this year.
 
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Schneider has made a few weird decisions. If Luplow is going to be on the team, that’s the good spot to use him. Belt has sucked and a lefty vs lefty.
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Schneider can make some really boneaded decisions. I caught the first glimpse of it when he took out an effective Gausman unnecessarily in the playoff game against Seattle thereby costing us that game.
 
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