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Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v2 | Sun, Apr 16 | vs TB | 1:30pm ET/10:30am PT | McClanahan vs Manoah

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Blitzkrug said:
That Mariners squad at least made it further than Trout has ever even come close to going. Obviously not his fault.

And were then able to transition away from the Junior/Johnson/A-Rod days damn near seamlessly.
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Near seamlessly? Didn't they miss the playoffs something like 18 years in a row? Hasn't it been like 15 years since any of those players were in Seattle?

Jays transitioned seamlessly from the World Series team to the Bautista era I guess

Maybe I missed some sarcasm.
 
Blitzkrug said:
Not to poopoo on a good thing but why can't Berrios do this more?

The stuff/ability is obviously still there and he's capable of stringing together good outings...Just why not as often as he did before?

I suppose if he knew he wouldn't have had that bad 2022, but still.
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He did do this for 2/3 of his starts last year.

I'm struggling to see what's different from his first start. The velocity looks the same, the control looks the same. Guys just don't seem to be sitting all over what's coming.
 
Canada4Gold said:
Near seamlessly? Didn't they miss the playoffs something like 18 years in a row? Hasn't it been like 15 years since any of those players were in Seattle?

Jays transitioned seamlessly from the World Series team to the Bautista era I guess

Maybe I missed some sarcasm.
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Considering how they had a stretch post 95 where they lost essentially their entire core in the span of three seasons; Johnson traded to the Astros in '98 because they had concerns paying him long term with his back issues, Griffey traded because he wanted to go home in '99, then A-Rod to free agency in 2000. Then proceeded to replace one of those guys with another generational star in Ichiro all the while making the playoffs in 2000 and 2001, one of which being a near record setting season for wins.

I'd say that's pretty damn seamless even if they didn't win championships.
 
Blitzkrug said:
Considering how they had a stretch post 95 where they lost essentially their entire core in the span of three seasons; Johnson traded to the Astros in '98 because they had concerns paying him long term with his back issues, Griffey traded because he wanted to go home in '99, then A-Rod to free agency in 2000. Then proceeded to replace one of those guys with another generational star in Ichiro all the while making the playoffs in 2000 and 2001, one of which being a near record setting season for wins.

I'd say that's pretty damn seamless even if they didn't win championships.
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Oh ok, I thought it was some kind of compliment to how they constructed the current core and was thinking, they had 20 years, it's about time. I remember that record setting season now.
 
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Blitzkrug said:
Johnson traded to the Astros in '98 because they had concerns paying him long term with his back issues, Griffey traded because he wanted to go home in '99
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That really bit them in the ass, Johnson went on to have a stellar year in Houston then really tore it up in Arizona. 4 straight Cy Young's, World Series ring, World Series Co-MVP.

Like, Randy Johnson got better as he aged.
 
Is there some injury Berrios has been playing with a year or so. Someone cant all of sudden be useless. Do we have options. Maybe put in the bullpen for a bit?
 
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