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Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v11 | Wed, Sept 21 | @ NYY | 7:00pm ET/4:00pm PT | Berrios vs Cole

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So the Jays are back to playing like they were all season vs good teams...
 
The Nemesis said:
He struggled and they sent him down. What else are they supposed to do? They can't just make him not be a giant baby about this.
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I think they had mismanaged him all the way. Waiting too long to sit/demote him, followed by an unsatisfactory assignment down in Buffalo. I obviously don’t know if there was a way to get ahead of him going full toddler in the aftermath, but ultimately I am not impressed by the organization’s handling.
 
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the valiant effort said:
I think they had mismanaged him all the way. Waiting too long to sit/demote him, followed by an unsatisfactory assignment down in Buffalo. I obviously don’t know if there was a way to get ahead of him going full toddler in the aftermath, but ultimately I am not impressed by the organization’s handling.
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I think they let him go for as long as they could, they didn't really have a feasible starter in the minors, as was evident with the 4 man rotation until Ryu came back.

The 4 man rotation severily taxed the bullpen, if you recall.

They brought him back too quickly IMO (~3 weeks?) and it didnt really result in any measurable improvement, so back he went.
 
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the valiant effort said:
I think they had mismanaged him all the way. Waiting too long to sit/demote him, followed by an unsatisfactory assignment down in Buffalo. I obviously don’t know if there was a way to get ahead of him going full toddler in the aftermath, but ultimately I am not impressed by the organization’s handling.
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The organization gave him every opportunity to succeed. This season is on Manoah alone. He has some serious maturing to do. He got a taste for the limelight and now refuses to do the work even though he’s been trash all year. He better set his pride aside in a real hurry
 
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Could of been a double play end of inning if Espinal was still on 1st, not saying I agree with him going, but it kind of helped tbh.
 
canucksfan said:
What does Mattingly do?

Edit and also I’m definitely keeping the pitching coaches.
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I would love to hear the logic behind hating the 2023 team and thinking the one new coach this year is the one who should stick around.
 
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the valiant effort said:
I think they had mismanaged him all the way. Waiting too long to sit/demote him, followed by an unsatisfactory assignment down in Buffalo. I obviously don’t know if there was a way to get ahead of him going full toddler in the aftermath, but ultimately I am not impressed by the organization’s handling.
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This is a terrible take on the situation
 
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