2023 Training Camp

[NeelyDan]

If this is for me:

1) It’s not morally superior. It’s called being realistic. The game has changed. You can prefer it be different all you want, it’s not going back. I prefer my parents left me a big inheritance, unfortunately they didn’t.

2) I thought I did a pretty good job of justifying my position and I didn’t say people can’t have their opinion. He’s just wrong in this instance.

3) I am “white knighting” because I prefer guys not get concussed on a regular basis by hits that were once considered legal? If so, guilty as charged.

4) I have posted here maybe 10 times in the in the last year before this morning (roughly), so you must have a different kind of tax than I do, which is paid weekly.

5) If you don’t like my posts, put me on ignore. It will save us both some hassles.

Your posts are fine, until the point you begin a position by delegating those who oppose you as "knuckle-draggers". I'll join in the fun by assuming you're pretty dim by doing so.

i don't like seeing kids get brain damage, so i guess i am.

I'll assume football, boxing, UFC are all banned from your television set, then

 

[DKH]

Death, taxes, analytics, and white knighting when people have the audacity to prefer a different game

You’re so morally superior

I like the Knight reference

My strength is probably my morals as well

And I worked for Treasury

This post is fantastic - like looking at back of dollar bill trying to figure out what’s this eye on a pyramid mean - or who’s the bad guy on Scoobie Doo

 

[sarge88]

If this is for me:

1) It’s not morally superior. It’s called being realistic. The game has changed. You can prefer it be different all you want, it’s not going back. I prefer my parents left me a big inheritance, unfortunately they didn’t.

2) I thought I did a pretty good job of justifying my position and I didn’t say people can’t have their opinion. He’s just wrong in this instance.

3) I am “white knighting” because I prefer guys not get concussed on a regular basis by hits that were once considered legal? If so, guilty as charged.

4) I have posted here maybe 10 times in the in the last year before this morning (roughly), so you must have a different kind of tax than I do, which is paid weekly.

5) If you don’t like my posts, put me on ignore. It will save us both some hassles.

Still don’t see where I’m wrong exactly.

There is no way in the world, by any measure where one could logically say that Heinen is tough by NHL standards.

Even in todays watered down NHL standards.

Is he talented, I guess, but his inconsistency certainly impacts his effectiveness.

In the end, as Wally often puts it, he’s a JAG.

Every team has them and every team needs them.

Sometimes even the JAGS have a good couple of months or even a season or 3.

In the end, for me, there are just a bunch of other JAGS that I’d rather see play for the Bruins.

 

[JCRO]

*comes to the preseason thread to get any info on the preseason game tomorrow. Sees it’s yet another discussion about Danton Heinen*

*leaves and opts for the Google machine*

 

[DKH]

Agree to disagree.

You can call Savard a fake tough guy all you want but the fact is that he actually would pair up, pull guys out of a scrum and throw a punch or two if necessary.

Heinen skates away, or picks up gloves and sticks any time a scrum happens.

Heinen is probably a good kid and well liked by his teammates.

Hell I’d probably love him if he were my neighbor or son in law, but I despise watching him play hockey and he’s not anyone I’d want to need to count on if things got ugly on the ice.

I probably would be like Heinen- nice guy, loved by teammates, cats & dogs, women, and cool kids, with Stan Jonathan fighting ability

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Your posts are fine, until the point you begin a position by delegating those who oppose you as "knuckle-draggers". I'll join in the fun by assuming you're pretty dim by doing so.

So, I’m dim, morally superior, a white knighter and as bad as death and taxes, but I can’t say knuckle-dragger? So, it’s alright to categorize and generalize people, but only if I agree with you? Lol

How about Neanderthal? Is that ok?

Do yourself a favor and hit the ignore button. We are not going to get along here.

 

[NeelyDan]

I like the Knight reference

My strength is probably my morals as well

And I worked for Treasury

This post is fantastic - like looking at back of dollar bill trying to figure out what’s this eye on a pyramid mean - or who’s the bad guy on Scoobie Doo

You have Taylor Hall number of posts, and David Krejci number of likes, that's pretty rad

So, I’m dim, morally superior, a white knighter and as bad as death and taxes, but I can’t say knuckle-dragger? So, it’s alright to categorize and generalize people, but only if I agree with you? Lol

How about Neanderthal? Is that ok?

Do yourself a favor and hit the ignore button. We are not going to get along here.

Would I have landed here had you not started out that way? I mean, how old is that 'do unto others' thing, anyway? You're right, we're not.

 

[sarge88]

I probably would be like Heinen- nice guy, loved by teammates, cats & dogs, women, and cool kids, with Stan Jonathan fighting ability

You’d be my kind of player.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Still don’t see where I’m wrong exactly.

There is no way in the world, by any measure where one could logically say that Heinen is tough by NHL standards.

Even in todays watered down NHL standards.

Is he talented, I guess, but his inconsistency certainly impacts his effectiveness.

In the end, as Wally often puts it, he’s a JAG.

Every team has them and every team needs them.

Sometimes even the JAGS have a good couple of months or even a season or 3.

In the end, for me, there are just a bunch of other JAGS that I’d rather see play for the Bruins.

When did I say Heinen was “tough” by NHL standards?

I said they’re a lot of guys that play a softer game and that team toughness can be achieved even with finesse guys on the roster.

How am I wrong exactly?

Also, I’m not sure where this idea that Heinen is inconsistent comes from. He’s a solid, responsible player that gives a good effort almost every night. His offense is inconsistent, but that’s a different animal.

He’s only “inconsistent” if he’s in your Top 6 and you are counting on him for goal scoring. If you are paying him $900k to play in the Botton 6, he’s actually been pretty consistent on a per 60 basis.

 

[PlayMakers]

Interesting not one mention of JVR over 2 days.

I wouldn’t read too much into that. People aren’t asking about him. Nobody asked about Zboril either and even though I picked him to be waved he has looked really dynamic.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

You have Taylor Hall number of posts, and David Krejci number of likes, that's pretty rad



Would I have landed here had you not started out that way? I mean, how old is that 'do unto others' thing, anyway? You're right, we're not.

I’m wrong a lot. Not with this subject though.

 

[NeelyDan]

I wouldn’t read too much into that. People aren’t asking about him. Nobody asked about Zboril either and even though I picked him to be waved he has looked really dynamic.

Probably not much to discuss because his output is really easily predicted, a known entity if you will.

I’m wrong a lot. Not with this subject though.

Nah, you are.

 

[PlayMakers]

Death, taxes, analytics, and white knighting when people have the audacity to prefer a different game

You’re so morally superior

Don’t forget complaining about the complainers!

 

[DKH]

I’ve seen Crosby live maybe 50 times - I grabbed my buds glass seats to take the yute as an 8 year old to be able to say ‘I saw Lemieux & Crosby play together’

I’m not sure I ever saw him so happy as when Heinen returning as one of the Cassidy 5 on February 8 2022 to TD Garden and scoring TWO goals

He was so intimidated playing a road game he dropped a deuce on Butchie’s head

Also interesting sitting a few feet away from ice was watching the Bruins guys clearly showing fondness for their former teammate pre face off

The only other player a saw come back and his teammates celebrate harder was Reilly Smith with Florida

 

[sarge88]

When did I say Heinen was “tough” by NHL standards?

I said they’re a lot of guys that play a softer game and that team toughness can be achieved even with finesse guys on the roster.

How am I wrong exactly?

Also, I’m not sure where this idea that Heinen is inconsistent comes from. He’s a solid, responsible player that gives a good effort almost every night. His offense is inconsistent, but that’s a different animal.

He’s only “inconsistent” if he’s in your Top 6 and you are counting on him for goal scoring. If you are paying him $900k to play in the Botton 6, he’s actually been pretty consistent on a per 60 basis.

You’ve said that he’s not soft.
Semantics maybe, so I concede that one.

As for inconsistency, he’s literally had a few stretches of 20+ games without a goal

A few others in double digits.

In the end, as I said he’s a 25-30 point JAG who I really don’t enjoy watching play.

Who, I’d love to see not be on this team because there are so many other options that I’d rather watch.

 

[PlayMakers]

JCRO is right folks, let’s get back on track. This thread is about the training camp.

Start a thread on the state of the game if that’s what you want to talk about.

Off topic post will be deleted.

 

[BradMarchandismydad]

I think this board has an unhealthy obsession with Danton Heinen.

He will likely play bottom six if he makes the team.

He can’t comprise 90% of the discussion lol

Edit: yeah what he said

 

[Alicat]

I really wish they would wear number jerseys. It is impossible to tell who is who with just the small number on the helmet

 

[DKH]

Who is group A today

They could make up 2/3 of tomorrow

The regulars will be pulled but gotta think they’d go that route

I really wish they would wear number jerseys. It is impossible to tell who is who with just the small number on the helmet

U get a program?

 

[Gee Wally]

No more personal crap!

Get a grip or get out.

 

[sarge88]

I’m here talking with Ali and we agree, not having the names or at least numbers on their jerseys makes it much less enjoyable.

Maybe it’s my 53 year old eyes, but it’s not a lot of fun tying to decipher the small helmet number and then looking it up on your phone is tedious.

 

[Ladyfan]

I really wish they would wear number jerseys. It is impossible to tell who is who with just the small number on the helmet

That is the problem I had yesterday.

 

[GoBs]

the other side of that is monty loves heinen from denver. pretty sure he pushed for this PTO, and would be surprised
if he's not on the team.

Montgomery maybe showcasing Heinen for someone else to pick him up

 

[DKH]

When did I say Heinen was “tough” by NHL standards?

I said they’re a lot of guys that play a softer game and that team toughness can be achieved even with finesse guys on the roster.

How am I wrong exactly?

Also, I’m not sure where this idea that Heinen is inconsistent comes from. He’s a solid, responsible player that gives a good effort almost every night. His offense is inconsistent, but that’s a different animal.

He’s only “inconsistent” if he’s in your Top 6 and you are counting on him for goal scoring. If you are paying him $900k to play in the Botton 6, he’s actually been pretty consistent on a per 60 basis.

Heinen is skilled - I want to see how he does with Monty

Boqvist- Geekie - Heinen

Would like to see Monty kid suggest this to his dad right before he falls asleep

 

[PB37]

Is there a practice today or do they have the weekend off?