2023 Training Camp

[DKH]

They have him on a line with two of the fastest players in camp, and he doesn’t look out of place or behind the play.

I was looking at F lines and trying to figure out what happens

At some point with 24 months
C: Coyle Zacha Poitras Merkulov Beecher

W: Pastrnak Marchand DeBrusk (Zacha) Frederic Lysell Geekie Lauko Heinen Boqvist
McLaughlin

MARCHAND- COYLE - Lysell

PASTRNAK- Poitras - BOQVIST

JVR - ZACHA - McLaughlin

HEINEN- Merkulov- DEBRUSK

LUCIC- Beecher - LAUKO

GREER - BROWN- CHAISSON/STEEN

That’s 13-14 F for October

Poitras back to OHL (love him he’s wired to make it happen and no area of ice fazes him)

Merkulov - tough call sending down but he should be up for good at some point. You go to Providence watch him

Beecher - he may stick but he has a 2 way so could start in Providence. He embraces early on the bottom 6 style he will be very good- he hits and is big and fast

Lysell - skills there - go down for 25-50 games get some experience and work on awareness and avoiding incoming cheap shots - important guy to organization. He pops your RW top 2 lines is Pastrnak & Lyell you are in high end

McLaughlin- he’s already had a good taste of NHL and wasn’t out of place one step - very intelligent player - eventually maybe soon he should be a top 4 PK and solid 10-12 minute player. Valuable piece

 

[DKH]

The Heinen-Merkulov-Debrusk line is interesting. If they were to stick together that would really lengthen the line up.

If Lysell isn’t looking ready I wouldn’t mind seeing Poitras getting some reps on the wing with Marchand and Coyle. That would be a good sheltered spot for him to enter the league early like Seguin did. Then switch back to Center in a year or two.

I know JVR will probably end up on the wing with Zacha and Pasta but wouldn’t mind seeing Lauko and Frederic take a few reps there.

Frederic-Zacha-Pastrnak
Marchand-Coyle-Poitras
Heinen-Merkulov-Debrusk
Lucic-Geekie-Lauko

Something like this is probably more realistic, which isn’t looking bad.

JVR-Zacha-Pastrnak
Marchand-Coyle-Debrusk
Heinen-Merkulov-Geekie
Lucic-Frederic-Lauko

I could totally embrace this -I love it actually

Only problem Is Merkulov has a 2 way and Boqvist is a pretty good player and for October they may go to there ‘Ship & Sort’ out

Lucic- Freddy- Lauko would be something I want to see

 

[sarge88]

Um wrong

Style of play is dead - brawls are outlawed, even a Daniel Paille accidental open ice blind side hit gets your bank hit in the thousands - it’s over. The new league is accountability and standing up for one another. Carlo soft is hilarious.

Dubois said it on NHL Network surrounded by youth hockey players in a clinic when asked who the toughest player to play against was and he gave ONE name and he listed strength

None other than HOF Neanderthal Ken Daneyko said during Bruins - Islanders series that losing Carlo flipped the series. Daneyko said Carlo was tough lol

When John Wensink who is known for one thing challenging the Minnesota bench and 5 time All Star 3 time Bruins top 10 scorer Murray Oliver isn’t tells me all you need to know about Bruins fans and media

That last line is such garbage - this is 2023 NOBODY worries about playing against anyone. They are almost all millionaires- they cross pollinate - there isn’t one team that I could think of as tough. These millionaires and friends play the regular season like a Disney vacation and then the playoffs start. Then they play dirty. Simple as that.

If this was 1978 hell yeh - but players made 40,000 if a regular, & drank beer at their stalls after games and many didn’t have an agent, a cook, a skating instructor, a personal trainer and definitely a house.
Lauko game 5 never should have been in game 5 and if you read this board no one noticed other then Monty had a worse day

Johnny Boychuk game 7 in 2014 and game 6 in 2019 F’d up those goals yet it’s always Tuukka


Yea exact same


Wait ???? He’s not the Looch of 2011?

I already know 2 people waiting for him to fail so they can tell us how Smahhhhht they are

My last line says it all.

The style of hockey I want to see is apparently not only not what the Bruins want to provide….it’s not what hockey is anymore.

Which is sad for me because the more Heinens I’m forced to watch the less I enjoy the game.

 

[DKH]

My last line says it all.

The style of hockey I want to see is apparently not only not what the Bruins want to provide….it’s not what hockey is anymore.

Which is sad for me because the more Heinens I’m forced to watch the less I enjoy the game.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

My last line says it all.

The style of hockey I want to see is apparently not only not what the Bruins want to provide….it’s not what hockey is anymore.

Which is sad for me because the more Heinens I’m forced to watch the less I enjoy the game.

Oh, how we long for the good old days when men were men and nobody knew what CTE was.

 

[Saxon Eric]

Oh, how we long for the good old days when men were men and nobody knew what CTE was.

No helmets and no soft Swedes!
Those were the days

 

[GloryDaze4877]

No helmets and no soft Swedes!
Those were the days

I had to come see what’s going on. Knew the Heinen PTO would be killing the knuckle-draggers lol.

 

[Ladyfan]

My last line says it all.

The style of hockey I want to see is apparently not only not what the Bruins want to provide….it’s not what hockey is anymore.

Which is sad for me because the more Heinens I’m forced to watch the less I enjoy the game.

You won't have all tough guys and even though I believe the Bruins could use a couple more I think Heinen would be a good player for the Bs.

 

[sarge88]

Oh, how we long for the good old days when men were men and nobody knew what CTE was.

Agreed.

 

[badbrewin]

I had to come see what’s going on. Knew the Heinen PTO would be killing the knuckle-draggers lol.

I was never a huge fan during Heinen's 1st stint, but if he outplays his bottom 6 peers and turns out to be a better option than any other prospect, then he deserves to stick around. He's a 40 point player lookng for a resurgence, so a fair 1-year gamble on the cheap for a motivated player.

 

[sarge88]

You won't have all tough guys and even though I believe the Bruins could use a couple more I think Heinen would be a good player for the Bs.

We’ve all got those players who we don’t like.

He’s mine and I don’t think he’s good enough that I’d give him a spot over a developing player.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Agreed.

The fact that you agree with my obviously sarcastic post says it all.

I love physical hockey. When I played, I was not big, but a physical player. My son played for 12-13 years and he was small until senior year, but a nasty little piece of work on the ice. However, the game has changed and there is no going back. Players are too big, too fast, and the equipment is too hard to allow them to play the way they used to.

The idea that Heinen is the poster boy for the B’s are too soft crowd is laughable. There are many, many players that play a less physical style. He’s just an easy target because you will never see him punch a guy in a scrum. He had 76 hits last year in 65 games, playing 10+ minutes a game for PIT and he actually looks bigger/thicker than he was last time he was in Boston. Unlike some other posters, in all the time I have been watching him, I never recall him bailing on a play to avoid being hit. You don’t play in the NHL for as long as Heinen has being like that.

The stuff about the B’s not being able to achieve team toughness if they have Heinen and/or Boqvist is an absolute fabrication. Mostly because team toughness is more mental than physical anyway. I look at the 2007-11 Bruins teams that were arguably the toughest in the league and there was a lot of finesse guys too. Marc Savard was a big **ssy and fake tough guy who would jump on the pile because of guys like Lucic and McQ.

The B’s have enough fighters in this day and age. The players need to have the mindset of having one another’s backs and a pack mentality. You can achieve that without 5 fighters on the roster. I’m far more concerned about the team’s ability to get to the middle of the ice in the O zone and fight threw traffic in the playoffs than I am about Heinen and Boqvist turning the team into a bunch of softies.

 

[TCB]

 

[Ladyfan]

He looked so happy yesterday

He did the usual winking at everybody. He is such a flirt

 

[Blowfish]

Interesting not one mention of JVR over 2 days.

 

[Alicat]

Interesting not one mention of JVR over 2 days.

I plan to watch him today

 

[sarge88]

The fact that you agree with my obviously sarcastic post says it all.

I love physical hockey. When I played, I was not big, but a physical player. My son played for 12-13 years and he was small until senior year, but a nasty little piece of work on the ice. However, the game has changed and there is no going back. Players are too big, too fast, and the equipment is too hard to allow them to play the way they used to.

The idea that Heinen is the poster boy for the B’s are too soft crowd is laughable. There are many, many players that play a less physical style. He’s just an easy target because you will never see him punch a guy in a scrum. He had 76 hits last year in 65 games, playing 10+ minutes a game for PIT and he actually looks bigger/thicker than he was last time he was in Boston. Unlike some other posters, in all the time I have been watching him, I never recall him bailing on a play to avoid being hit. You don’t play in the NHL for as long as Heinen has being like that.

The stuff about the B’s not being able to achieve team toughness if they have Heinen and/or Boqvist is an absolute fabrication. Mostly because team toughness is more mental than physical anyway. I look at the 2007-11 Bruins teams that were arguably the toughest in the league and there was a lot of finesse guys too. Marc Savard was a big **ssy and fake tough guy who would jump on the pile because of guys like Lucic and McQ.

The B’s have enough fighters in this day and age. The players need to have the mindset of having one another’s backs and a pack mentality. You can achieve that without 5 fighters on the roster. I’m far more concerned about the team’s ability to get to the middle of the ice in the O zone and fight threw traffic in the playoffs than I am about Heinen and Boqvist turning the team into a bunch of softies.

Agree to disagree.

You can call Savard a fake tough guy all you want but the fact is that he actually would pair up, pull guys out of a scrum and throw a punch or two if necessary.

Heinen skates away, or picks up gloves and sticks any time a scrum happens.

Heinen is probably a good kid and well liked by his teammates.

Hell I’d probably love him if he were my neighbor or son in law, but I despise watching him play hockey and he’s not anyone I’d want to need to count on if things got ugly on the ice.

 

[Blowfish]

I plan to watch him today

Thanks Acat...curious to see if he's engaged or going through the motions. Watch for Richard!

The fact that you agree with my obviously sarcastic post says it all.

I love physical hockey. When I played, I was not big, but a physical player. My son played for 12-13 years and he was small until senior year, but a nasty little piece of work on the ice. However, the game has changed and there is no going back. Players are too big, too fast, and the equipment is too hard to allow them to play the way they used to.

The idea that Heinen is the poster boy for the B’s are too soft crowd is laughable. There are many, many players that play a less physical style. He’s just an easy target because you will never see him punch a guy in a scrum. He had 76 hits last year in 65 games, playing 10+ minutes a game for PIT and he actually looks bigger/thicker than he was last time he was in Boston. Unlike some other posters, in all the time I have been watching him, I never recall him bailing on a play to avoid being hit. You don’t play in the NHL for as long as Heinen has being like that.

The stuff about the B’s not being able to achieve team toughness if they have Heinen and/or Boqvist is an absolute fabrication. Mostly because team toughness is more mental than physical anyway. I look at the 2007-11 Bruins teams that were arguably the toughest in the league and there was a lot of finesse guys too. Marc Savard was a big **ssy and fake tough guy who would jump on the pile because of guys like Lucic and McQ.

The B’s have enough fighters in this day and age. The players need to have the mindset of having one another’s backs and a pack mentality. You can achieve that without 5 fighters on the roster. I’m far more concerned about the team’s ability to get to the middle of the ice in the O zone and fight threw traffic in the playoffs than I am about Heinen and Boqvist turning the team into a bunch of softies.

Excellent GD!

 

[Dr Quincy]

I was looking at F lines and trying to figure out what happens

At some point with 24 months
C: Coyle Zacha Poitras Merkulov Beecher

W: Pastrnak Marchand DeBrusk (Zacha) Frederic Lysell Geekie Lauko Heinen Boqvist
McLaughlin

MARCHAND- COYLE - Lysell

PASTRNAK- Poitras - BOQVIST

JVR - ZACHA - McLaughlin

HEINEN- Merkulov- DEBRUSK

LUCIC- Beecher - LAUKO

GREER - BROWN- CHAISSON/STEEN

That’s 13-14 F for October

Poitras back to OHL (love him he’s wired to make it happen and no area of ice fazes him)

Merkulov - tough call sending down but he should be up for good at some point. You go to Providence watch him

Beecher - he may stick but he has a 2 way so could start in Providence. He embraces early on the bottom 6 style he will be very good- he hits and is big and fast

Lysell - skills there - go down for 25-50 games get some experience and work on awareness and avoiding incoming cheap shots - important guy to organization. He pops your RW top 2 lines is Pastrnak & Lyell you are in high end

McLaughlin- he’s already had a good taste of NHL and wasn’t out of place one step - very intelligent player - eventually maybe soon he should be a top 4 PK and solid 10-12 minute player. Valuable piece

I don't think you are really looking at the cap close enough.

I don't see a realistic way they have 14Fs, and even less of a way with Merkulov, Beecher and Heinen being 3 of them. The difference in salary between a Beecher and a Greer may be small, but every $ is going to count. They can waive Zboril and bury all of his cap and go with 7D... but that only leaves about 3m with 10 forwards on the roster.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Interesting not one mention of JVR over 2 days.

Like when he plays in games until you look at the box score

 

[PB37]

Man, it's exciting to think if Poitras and Beecher make it, where they would fit. I'd put Poitras in the top 6 with Marchand/DeBrusk to give the kid some established scorers to play with and Beecher with some toughness and size who also like to hit.


JVR -- Zacha -- Pasta

Marchand -- Poitras -- DeBrusk

Heinen -- Coyle -- Geekie

Lucic -- Beecher -- Frederic

 

[NeelyDan]

Death, taxes, analytics, and white knighting when people have the audacity to prefer a different game

You’re so morally superior

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Death, taxes, analytics, and white knighting when people have the audacity to prefer a different game

You’re so morally superior

If this is for me:

1) It’s not morally superior. It’s called being realistic. The game has changed. You can prefer it be different all you want, it’s not going back. I prefer my parents left me a big inheritance, unfortunately they didn’t.

2) I thought I did a pretty good job of justifying my position and I didn’t say people can’t have their opinion. He’s just wrong in this instance.

3) I am “white knighting” because I prefer guys not get concussed on a regular basis by hits that were once considered legal? If so, guilty as charged.

4) I have posted here maybe 10 times in the in the last year before this morning (roughly), so you must have a different kind of tax than I do, which is paid weekly.

5) If you don’t like my posts, put me on ignore. It will save us both some hassles.

 

[DKH]

I don't think you are really looking at the cap close enough.

I don't see a realistic way they have 14Fs, and even less of a way with Merkulov, Beecher and Heinen being 3 of them. The difference in salary between a Beecher and a Greer may be small, but every $ is going to count. They can waive Zboril and bury all of his cap and go with 7D... but that only leaves about 3m with 10 forwards on the roster.

I’m not convinced Forbort here - if they can move him it can work

It’s a speculative lineup based on how they operate in the past and with Bergeron gone a veteran group makes sense to Monty

 

[Lobster57]

Death, taxes, analytics, and white knighting when people have the audacity to prefer a different game

You’re so morally superior

i don't like seeing kids get brain damage, so i guess i am.