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DKH

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The Poitras video is cool. When he talks about trying to make the team and make it difficult to send him down you can see a little smile come across his face where he's like holy shit I can't believe I'm talking to reporters about trying to play in the NHL.
He’s definitely not small either - 5’11? 6 ? He’s involved and he wants the puck to create or score

Glad to see him with Pastrnak- this could be very good/great pairing down the road
 
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Let’s Get Physical

While most players were finding their stride, and the newbies were finding their way through some unfamiliar drills, some Bruins veterans were wasting no time getting physical. Group A veterans and Boston Bruins alternate captain Charlie McAvoy and captain Brad Marchand got entangled in a battle for the puck in the early session, with Marchand winning the battle, and McAvoy winding up on the ice.

Boston Bruins head coach Jim Montgomery was asked about the physical tone being set from the get-go and revealed that will be the case throughout camp, the preseason, and the 2023-24 regular season.

“We want physical,” Montgomery replied bluntly. “We need to be a more physical team this year than last year, in our opinion.
So we like the physicality, and guys are fighting for jobs. So, there should be physicality out there when the drill requires it.

I think we’re a little bit of a bigger and heavier team. But also, we just think that we need to be more physical at net fronts, offensively and defensively. We saw that as an area to improve from what we learned from the playoffs last year.”

Keep it up, Sunny Jim.
 

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The Heinie-Merk-DeBrusk line was like watching the famous Russian KLM line in 1988 at Twin Rinks in Danvers months before they defected

This isn’t the beat down Heinen from Cassidy but a confident, savy, fast Heinen after 2 years being treated like a human by Charlie McAvoy father-in-law Mike Sullivan

Lock he’s on this loaded team


He hasn’t made it yet but he’s a good player - he will blossom under Monty

Heinen didn't get any more points for the Pens than he did with the Bruins. That's not a knock on him, just an observation that he hasn't really changed - he was the same player in Pittsburgh under Sullivan that he was in Boston with Cassidy, and he'll be the same now. His strengths and weaknesses are what they are.

There are some flaws in his game but he's NHL quality and in general I've got no problem with him and I think you're right - he'll make this team and deservedly so. But on the flipside I wouldn't oversell him. At this point in his career I don't think he's got some significant untapped potential just waiting to be unleashed by the right coach. If he plays the same solid, sensible hockey he usually has and can reduce some of the inconsistency in his offensive game then I'll take it. Expecting more feels overly optimistic. But as I often say - you never know.
 

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He’s definitely not small either - 5’11? 6 ? He’s involved and he wants the puck to create or score

Glad to see him with Pastrnak- this could be very good/great pairing down the road

I'd love to see Poitras and Lysell together at some point soon in Providence. Maybe later this year if Poitras doesn't make the team out of camp.
 
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Let’s Get Physical

While most players were finding their stride, and the newbies were finding their way through some unfamiliar drills, some Bruins veterans were wasting no time getting physical. Group A veterans and Boston Bruins alternate captain Charlie McAvoy and captain Brad Marchand got entangled in a battle for the puck in the early session, with Marchand winning the battle, and McAvoy winding up on the ice.

Boston Bruins head coach Jim Montgomery was asked about the physical tone being set from the get-go and revealed that will be the case throughout camp, the preseason, and the 2023-24 regular season.

“We want physical,” Montgomery replied bluntly. “We need to be a more physical team this year than last year, in our opinion.
So we like the physicality, and guys are fighting for jobs. So, there should be physicality out there when the drill requires it.

I think we’re a little bit of a bigger and heavier team. But also, we just think that we need to be more physical at net fronts, offensively and defensively. We saw that as an area to improve from what we learned from the playoffs last year.”

Keep it up, Sunny Jim.
Marchand's setting the tone and I love it. Hope the club takes on the identity of their new captian - it trickles down through the roster and infuriates the rest of the league.
 

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I know others have said Monty prefers lines with a ditch digger / playmaker / shooter setup. Wonder if they'll give Lucic looks on the top line on occasion to do the dirty work and help keep the buzzards away from Pasta.

Poitras has limited options. AHL isnt one of them.
Its stick with Bruins or back to juniors.

Can he sign after the junior year is done and head to the AHL for a few games?
 
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I think he was with the first group, which I did not see. I’ll see them tomorrow afternoon. It was a tough day to pick out players, only about half of them had jersey numbers. The other half were wearing blank jerseys so you either had to know what they look like or get a close look at the number on the back of their helmet when they’re standing in line near you. If I see a guy once I can usually pick him out by his skating the rest of practice but they only let you stand in half of the rink so there were some guys you can’t get close enough to, to read their helmet number.
Yup I keep forgetting about the sheer number of players on the ice at one time...probably posted somewhere but when would first cuts take place?
 

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I'd love to see Poitras and Lysell together at some point soon in Providence. Maybe later this year if Poitras doesn't make the team out of camp.
Poitras has options so my guesstimate is he ends up back in OHL

I hope they play him with Pastrnak and send him back late so he knows exactly what his goal looks like real.

Lysell I want out of Providence as soon as possible - the NHL is 95% millionaires who generally aren’t cheap shot artists or reckless - the AHL is reckless and significantly more dangerous to a guy like Lysell

I hope when I see them in a game together they both have Bruins crests

Lysell has talent just needs experience, build self up a bit, and learn how to protect himself and be more aware - exciting player love watching who’s got top 6 skating, hands and hockey smarts - Just protect yourself and hope no one tries to run him with only purpose hurt which seems such an AHL thing
 

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I know others have said Monty prefers lines with a ditch digger / playmaker / shooter setup. Wonder if they'll give Lucic looks on the top line on occasion to do the dirty work and help keep the buzzards away from Pasta.



Can he sign after the junior year is done and head to the AHL for a few games?
Yes he can.
 

DKH

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Heinen didn't get any more points for the Pens than he did with the Bruins. That's not a knock on him, just an observation that he hasn't really changed - he was the same player in Pittsburgh under Sullivan that he was in Boston with Cassidy, and he'll be the same now. His strengths and weaknesses are what they are.

There are some flaws in his game but he's NHL quality and in general I've got no problem with him and I think you're right - he'll make this team and deservedly so. But on the flipside I wouldn't oversell him. At this point in his career I don't think he's got some significant untapped potential just waiting to be unleashed by the right coach. If he plays the same solid, sensible hockey he usually has and can reduce some of the inconsistency in his offensive game then I'll take it. Expecting more feels overly optimistic. But as I often say - you never know.
I thought he was better in Pittsburgh/ and one time and former HF member Glorydaze kept an eye on him said he was much more assertive and played well. Joe track record the 25 years I’ve known him better then me so I’m not doubting his Heinen scouting report
 

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I know others have said Monty prefers lines with a ditch digger / playmaker / shooter setup. Wonder if they'll give Lucic looks on the top line on occasion to do the dirty work and help keep the buzzards away from Pasta.



Can he sign after the junior year is done and head to the AHL for a few games?
Yes
 

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I thought he was better in Pittsburgh/ and one time and former HF member Glorydaze kept an eye on him said he was much more assertive and played well. Joe track record the 25 years I’ve known him better then me so I’m not doubting his Heinen scouting report

I don't pretend to be an expert on Pittsburgh. Can only say I watch a handful of their games each year and just from what I saw I thought Heinen had a really solid first season with them and a good playoff performance too, but in the second year it felt like he regressed a bit again, although to be fair he was used in a more defensive, largely bottom 6 role in that season. Overall nothing in his game particularly stood out to me as being different from what he showed in Boston, but perhaps that's on me.

Two things are indisputable though - his production didn't change, and while that's not everything, reality is the Pens didn't re-sign him (they essentially gave his spot to Noel Acciari instead - small world) and no-one else did either. Which rather suggests that whatever we think of him, he hasn't impressed the right people - the GMs.

Glorydaze knows his stuff, far more than I do, so I definitely take note of his opinion and hope he's right. I'm just not convinced we'll see too much more from Heinen that we did previously. But as I said, as long as he's decent and competes hard I'll take it. More than that would be a bonus.
 

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I thought he was better in Pittsburgh/ and one time and former HF member Glorydaze kept an eye on him said he was much more assertive and played well. Joe track record the 25 years I’ve known him better then me so I’m not doubting his Heinen scouting report

One interesting thing when you look at his time in Boston vs Pittsburgh....

W/ BOS - 220 GP / 138 Hits / 0.62 hits per game
W/ PIT - 141 GP / 142 Hits / 1.01 hits per game
 

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Poitras has options so my guesstimate is he ends up back in OHL

I hope they play him with Pastrnak and send him back late so he knows exactly what his goal looks like real.

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One interesting thing when you look at his time in Boston vs Pittsburgh....

W/ BOS - 220 GP / 138 Hits / 0.62 hits per game
W/ PIT - 141 GP / 142 Hits / 1.01 hits per game
Joe never gave me these stats yet lines up with what he said - thx
 
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I don't pretend to be an expert on Pittsburgh. Can only say I watch a handful of their games each year and just from what I saw I thought Heinen had a really solid first season with them and a good playoff performance too, but in the second year it felt like he regressed a bit again, although to be fair he was used in a more defensive, largely bottom 6 role in that season. Overall nothing in his game particularly stood out to me as being different from what he showed in Boston, but perhaps that's on me.
Two percentage points increase in on ice shooting percentage compared to his normal baseline. Last season, he was at his usual tick above 7%.
 
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The best teammate duo eligible not in the HOF is Barry Pederson & Rick Middleton

I would take them against any other eligible duo not in Hall

If someone is better I’d like to hear it

Also the first 5 years of these two imo would beat 2/3 rds in HOF

I get Pederson- after they took out that tumor from biceps he was never the same

Middleton was a genius on the ice and one of the best PK ever seen - he’s not in HOF because of suing the league
 

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Let’s Get Physical

While most players were finding their stride, and the newbies were finding their way through some unfamiliar drills, some Bruins veterans were wasting no time getting physical. Group A veterans and Boston Bruins alternate captain Charlie McAvoy and captain Brad Marchand got entangled in a battle for the puck in the early session, with Marchand winning the battle, and McAvoy winding up on the ice.

Boston Bruins head coach Jim Montgomery was asked about the physical tone being set from the get-go and revealed that will be the case throughout camp, the preseason, and the 2023-24 regular season.

“We want physical,” Montgomery replied bluntly. “We need to be a more physical team this year than last year, in our opinion.
So we like the physicality, and guys are fighting for jobs. So, there should be physicality out there when the drill requires it.

I think we’re a little bit of a bigger and heavier team. But also, we just think that we need to be more physical at net fronts, offensively and defensively. We saw that as an area to improve from what we learned from the playoffs last year.”

Keep it up, Sunny Jim.

Is this ever music to my ears.
 

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Let’s Get Physical

While most players were finding their stride, and the newbies were finding their way through some unfamiliar drills, some Bruins veterans were wasting no time getting physical. Group A veterans and Boston Bruins alternate captain Charlie McAvoy and captain Brad Marchand got entangled in a battle for the puck in the early session, with Marchand winning the battle, and McAvoy winding up on the ice.

Boston Bruins head coach Jim Montgomery was asked about the physical tone being set from the get-go and revealed that will be the case throughout camp, the preseason, and the 2023-24 regular season.

“We want physical,” Montgomery replied bluntly. “We need to be a more physical team this year than last year, in our opinion.
So we like the physicality, and guys are fighting for jobs. So, there should be physicality out there when the drill requires it.

I think we’re a little bit of a bigger and heavier team. But also, we just think that we need to be more physical at net fronts, offensively and defensively. We saw that as an area to improve from what we learned from the playoffs last year.”

Keep it up, Sunny Jim.

No Heinen then after all.
 
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