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Bruins News & Rumors: Greer, Brown, Beecher & Heinen - The Hockey Writers Boston Bruins Latest News, Analysis & More

In this latest edition of Boston Bruins News & Rumors, A.J. Greer and Patrick Brown are the latest Bruins to hit the waiver wire. In other news, with Brown hitting…

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I've come to the board late today, but you guys do know that Greer and Brown were waived today, and that the other three cut this weekend all cleared waivers and will report to PRO, yes?

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

For those still wondering about the "Brown over Beecher" thing... look a bit northwest to Ottawa. Roby Jarventie had 4 goals and an assist in the preseason. He's a 6'3 winger who they converted to C last year in the AHL and who played at a .75 ppg clip down there.

They just sent him down after being the BEST goal scorer on the team in the preseason and instead went with 27 year old AHLer Rourke Chartier, who has played 19 NHL games and 1 pt in 8 years since being drafted.

This is what NHL teams do.

forgive me if I can't get on board with following the Ottawa model for success

 

[PlayMakers]

Or if Greer or Brown passes waivers, they can be the 13th F, right?


JVR, Marchand, JDB, Zacha, Pasta, Coyle, Poitras, Geekie, Frederic, Beecher, Looch, Lauko = 12

Greer, Brown or Heinen

I think Heinen will end up being 13th F.

 

[sarge88]

I think Heinen will end up being 13th F.

Sadly, it seems so.

 

[HooperDrivesTheBoat]

I think Heinen will end up being 13th F.

Bill, would you rather have Greer or Heinen as 13?

Edit: meaning, whose skillset do you prefer if one came in due to injury.

 

[GordonHowe]

I think Heinen will end up being 13th F.

Probably. I can live with that. He's a legit NHLer, he's versatile, and generally, he's a decent two-way player.

Insurance is fine. A regular roster spot?

Nope.

 

[PlayMakers]

Bill, would you rather have Greer or Heinen as 13?

Edit: meaning, whose skillset do you prefer if one came in due to injury.

Heinen. He's a Swiss Army knife. Both wings, up and down the lineup, defensively responsible.

Fwiw, I like Greer, he's a solid energy guy for a 4th line, decent speed, decent hands, physical... Out of all the guys that were waived he's the one I could see getting claimed.

 

[HumBucker]

Excellent!

 

[DaBroons]

They have 46 contracts (Brunet's doesn't count b/c he's in juniors), and are allowed 50. I don't understand that signing Heinen will put them in any jeopardy.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Good news. I think they will lose Greer. Brown sucks and will not be taken. Sweeney strikes again.

 

[rocketdan9]

Ecstatic

Lucic Beecher Lauko looked amazing

 

[sarge88]

Heinen. He's a Swiss Army knife. Both wings, up and down the lineup, defensively responsible.

Fwiw, I like Greer, he's a solid energy guy for a 4th line, decent speed, decent hands, physical... Out of all the guys that were waived he's the one I could see getting claimed.

I keep hearing people talk about his versatility, playing up and down the lineup, etc. but I truly hate that approach to the game.

If one of the bottom 3/4 forwards got hurt, I could see him taking their spot, because that’s what he is.

If a top 6 guy got hurt, I can’t see why anyone would want him to replace that guy, because he’s not a top 6 guy and doesn’t have top 6 talent.

I’d much rather see a Merkulov or Lysell take that spot due to their offensive abilities.


Conservative hockey, is awful hockey.

 

[rocketdan9]

Sadly, it seems so.

Why sadly? He had a solid pre season imo

 

[PB37]

They have 46 contracts (Brunet's doesn't count b/c he's in juniors), and are allowed 50. I don't understand that signing Heinen will put them in any jeopardy.

They probably want a little breathing room just incase for later in the season ( trades, college free agent, prospect signing, etc etc ).

 

[rocketdan9]

I’d much rather see a Merkulov or Lysell take that spot due to their offensive abilities.


Conservative hockey, is awful hockey.

Neither are ready. Especially Lysell.

Merkulov is a step or two away imo.

He displayed some nice passes. Too bad we didnt get to see his deadly one timers

 

[DaBroons]

They probably want a little breathing room just incase ( trades, college free agent, prospect signing, etc etc ).

They can sign a college to an AHL contract for the remainder of the season. I don't see that any of their prospects would be ready for the NHL by the end of the current season.

 

[sarge88]

Why sadly? He had a solid pre season imo

Because he’s not a difference maker and him playing 1, 10 or 79 games won’t matter a bit in the standings, while younger players, who I’d like to see play get stuck in the minors.

He’s a JAG and plays a boring, uninspired version of hockey.

As much as I’d like to have a reason to think differently, this team isn’t winning a cup.

I don’t understand why they‘d play a guy like Heinen, when they can give younger guys useful NHL experience.

 

[sarge88]

Neither are ready. Especially Lysell.

Merkulov is a step or two away imo.

He displayed some nice passes. Too bad we didnt get to see his deadly one timers

Not ready for what?

To play meaningful minutes on Stanley Cup contender? —— I agree.

But, they are more than ready to play sheltered minutes in order to give them meaningful experience, so they might be ready to contribute when this team is a contender.

 

[PB37]

They can sign a college to an AHL contract for the remainder of the season. I don't see that any of their prospects would be ready for the NHL by the end of the current season.

They can but that limits their ability to pick up a top CFA who is looking to sign with a team that can give him time in the NHL at the end of the year.

I agree with you on the prospects. But what if they need to swing a trade later in the year because a couple of guys are hurt? Or they want to pick up a couple of players to shore up some holes?

I do think Heinen will sign but it does push them to the limit of what they could potentially do later in the year. For now, they're good.

 

[Gee Wally]

Typically most teams dont go further than 46-47 contracts. For the very reasons being aid here.
Flexibility for further deals, top college FA, and to back fill if something should happen .

 

[wintersej]

If someone posted these lines at the beginning of camp we would have laughed at them for being over optimistic.

 

[The don godfather]

Excellent!

Yes kids kids and more kids. Let's go!

 

[PB37]

Heinen. He's a Swiss Army knife. Both wings, up and down the lineup, defensively responsible.

Fwiw, I like Greer, he's a solid energy guy for a 4th line, decent speed, decent hands, physical... Out of all the guys that were waived he's the one I could see getting claimed.

It's a long year and Heinen would be a solid pro coming off the bench. No, he's not some hotshot rookie waiting for his chance that we can all get excited about. But he's a young veteran who, as you said, is versatile enough to help plug potential problems if and when they occur.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Excellent!

Great job Boston!!

 

[PlayMakers]

I keep hearing people talk about his versatility, playing up and down the lineup, etc. but I truly hate that approach to the game.

If one of the bottom 3/4 forwards got hurt, I could see him taking their spot, because that’s what he is.

If a top 6 guy got hurt, I can’t see why anyone would want him to replace that guy, because he’s not a top 6 guy and doesn’t have top 6 talent.

I’d much rather see a Merkulov or Lysell take that spot due to their offensive abilities.


Conservative hockey, is awful hockey.

It's not about conservative. It's about who's the better player today. Who's going to help you get that next win? Is it a proven NHL player or a kid who looked overwhelmed in pre-season against a team with a mixed lineup.

Not everyone in the top6 has to be a top6 offensive talent. You can win games by having someone smart on a line who helps you spend more time on offense by making good plays defensively. Or having someone physical on a line who sets up in front and occupies a D.