2023 Trade Deadline (03/03/23 3PM EST)
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Cowumbus
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Boston could have Schenn for a 3rd and use their 1st for middle 6 guys. Is Gavrikov enough of an upgrade to justify paying what the Jackets want? I’m not so sure either.
He's not exactly an established and known NHL player, so I doubt he would have returned more than a late pick. And Larsen adores him, so he'll probably be extended anyways
Im not as on board with trading Laine as others but if they could do something around Laine and Meier that would be cool.
Then flip the assest acquired in the Gavrikov deal + whatever for Chychrun. Heck if we are getting real crazy I wonder if there is a way to add in Elvis and Vejmelka
Then flip the assest acquired in the Gavrikov deal + whatever for Chychrun. Heck if we are getting real crazy I wonder if there is a way to add in Elvis and Vejmelka
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I can’t imagine a Chychrun deal is close if he’s back to practicing with the team. I also can’t imagine he’d be okay with going from Arizona to Columbus when the whole reason he wants out of there is to win immediately.
I know he has no trade protection but I’m not interested in a Jeff Carter 2.0 situation or him walking after next year
I know he has no trade protection but I’m not interested in a Jeff Carter 2.0 situation or him walking after next year
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teams probably dont like the fact hes been away from a team or off the ice so long. Guessing its just so hes seen as being more game ready.
I know players arent always hockey nuts but it shouldnt be hard to convince him with all the injuries the team will improve. This team even with the additions of Chychrun and Werenski looks significantly better.
Then of course the other injured players, development time for Johnson/Marchenko/Jiricek and potentially a top pick in a good year to have a top pick. Id hope would be enough to sell a player
Cowumbus
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Still am wondering if someone we don’t think about moving as a rental, such as Roslovic, could get traded.
Hayes has been head butting with Torts… I wonder if Hayes with retention for Roslovic could make sense.
Parlay that with a Nyquist extension, and picks plus prospects for Chychrun or really any middle pair D (and assuming we pick 4OA or worse):
Gaudreau Hayes Marchenko
Johnson Jenner Laine
Nyquist Sillinger Chinakhov
Robinson Kuraly Tex/Danforth
Foudy
Werenski Jiricek
XXX Peeke
Blankenburg Gudbranson
7th
^ Whoever isn’t traded between 27 and 22
Hayes has been head butting with Torts… I wonder if Hayes with retention for Roslovic could make sense.
Parlay that with a Nyquist extension, and picks plus prospects for Chychrun or really any middle pair D (and assuming we pick 4OA or worse):
Gaudreau Hayes Marchenko
Johnson Jenner Laine
Nyquist Sillinger Chinakhov
Robinson Kuraly Tex/Danforth
Foudy
Werenski Jiricek
XXX Peeke
Blankenburg Gudbranson
7th
^ Whoever isn’t traded between 27 and 22
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i would give my left nut for this to happen but it feels like an offseason move for both teams tbh
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I hope Gavi goes to Boston. Their fans on Twitter are acting like anything above a conditional 9th round pick is an overpayment for him. Get to fleecing Jarmo.
Im sure Torts would love Roslovic full time too
I wouldnt like the term on the Hayes contract and the m-NTC
Last season, there were 30 trades reported on deadline day, 9 the day before, 3 two days before, 1 three days before, 3 five days before, and one each 6 and 7 days before the deadline. There were only three other trades in the month leading up to the deadline and they were all minor deals.
So while it does feel like there's not a lot of movement, the fact that Horvat, Tarasenko, and O'Reilly all got dealt 2+ weeks out from the deadline is a deviation from last year.
Seems like there is a standstill w/r/t Gavrikov -> Jarmo is waiting on Boston, who might need someone to take a contract off their books OR they may be trying to get Chychrun instead. Jarmo could be trying to shop around for a better deal but it's also possible no other team is willing to pony up. There are not many other D even on the market -> Klingberg, Schenn, Dumba possibly, McCabe (but comes with term), Gostisbehere, Edmunson, Kulikov. Erik Karlsson reportedly available as well, but that math gets tricky with his contract.
This holding pattern has to break eventually. There just aren't a ton of top 4 Dmen available at this deadline.
So while it does feel like there's not a lot of movement, the fact that Horvat, Tarasenko, and O'Reilly all got dealt 2+ weeks out from the deadline is a deviation from last year.
Seems like there is a standstill w/r/t Gavrikov -> Jarmo is waiting on Boston, who might need someone to take a contract off their books OR they may be trying to get Chychrun instead. Jarmo could be trying to shop around for a better deal but it's also possible no other team is willing to pony up. There are not many other D even on the market -> Klingberg, Schenn, Dumba possibly, McCabe (but comes with term), Gostisbehere, Edmunson, Kulikov. Erik Karlsson reportedly available as well, but that math gets tricky with his contract.
This holding pattern has to break eventually. There just aren't a ton of top 4 Dmen available at this deadline.
My buddy is a die hard Boston fan and instantly messaged me asking about Gavrikov and saying his numbers dont look like a 1st round pick kind of guy
. If you are looking at Gavrikov for his offense only then I dont know what to tell ya
Cowumbus
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I think we could just buy him out and the cap hit would be like 2 mill (if we got him retained for 6 mill)Im sure Torts would love Roslovic full time too
I wouldnt like the term on the Hayes contract and the m-NTC
Jakub Voracek - $8,250,000
Gustav Nyquist - $5,500,000
$13,750,000
Jacob Chychrun - $4,600,000
$9,150,000 free
It's also not out of the question that one, if not both, of the Bean/Peeke duo will leave. It should also not be forgotten that Gavrikov would want more than $5,000,000.
So, salary cap wouldn't be any problem even with resign Chinakhov and return Texier. The important question is PP. Boqvist is better than Werenski, but I doubt Adam would play instead of Z. Next Chychrun. He plays PP too and is better than Zach. What now?
Gustav Nyquist - $5,500,000
$13,750,000
Jacob Chychrun - $4,600,000
$9,150,000 free
It's also not out of the question that one, if not both, of the Bean/Peeke duo will leave. It should also not be forgotten that Gavrikov would want more than $5,000,000.
So, salary cap wouldn't be any problem even with resign Chinakhov and return Texier. The important question is PP. Boqvist is better than Werenski, but I doubt Adam would play instead of Z. Next Chychrun. He plays PP too and is better than Zach. What now?
roslovic definitely isn't a fit for torts on paper but his best season here was the one where torts was the head coach, so… maybe torts actually liked him?Im sure Torts would love Roslovic full time too
given the tension between hayes and torts + hayes's friendship with gaudreau, i could actually see him waiving to come here.
the term doesn't seem ideal on the surface, but hayes is younger than i realized (30) – the deal will expire when he's 34. if cbj gets lucky enough to draft a bedard/fantilli, their ELC will expire the same summer as hayes's current contract.
in the meantime, he's basically getting 2C money and could be a temporary/stopgap 1C for columbus, then slide down to 2C if a better option presents itself, or be a plus 3C at the end of his contract. factor in the low acquisition cost and he's kind of a perfect (albeit partial) solution to the center woes.
Thats a lot of years. Id think it best to just ride it out with Roslovic unless someone actually wants him, which with retention someone may. Or if you want him gone a buyout for Roslovic is 1.33mil for 2 years
Yep, exactly. Meaning that if Jarmo does this trade now, there is an above 0% chance that the dude leaves the organization before the team is even ready to be a contender
He was also riding the high of coming to his hometown team. Probably would have tailed off in a similar way. Although Torts would have a shorter leash with him, could either be really bad or really good
they can also just keep voracek through the offseason, then tap into his LTIR after opening night – i think they'll have plenty of room.
the big problem with voracek's deal is that, he still has a substantial salary next year in terms of actual real dollars ($7.5m vs Weber's $1m). maybe insurance covers that, not sure, but the cost to move him might be more than the fifth rounder arizona just got.
if not… well, the jackets should be all over that. moving jake ($8.25m) + roslovic ($4m) + peeke ($2.75m) and letting nyquist walk ($5.5m) would free up more than $20m of cap.
as for texier, his contract doesn't toll while he's playing overseas, so next season he'll just resume his previous contract ($1.5m). chinakhov is gonna be a 10.2(c) RFA (so no arb or offer sheets) so he may not even end up getting a pay raise unless he comes back and lights it up down the stretch.
