GunnarStahl
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2023 Tank Thread (Mod post Page 60)
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Terry Yake
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so it's cool for posters to come in here and shit on rooting for the team to lose (which is why this thread exists,) but responding back to them is where the line gets drawn? got it. makes total sense!
No it’s not, which is why I posted the reminder. It’s the same as folks going into the GDT posting they are pissed that they are winning. Just ask members to respect each-other’s views when it comes to rooting for the team. Debate the team not the posters.
This is the final discussion on this, need to move back to the subject at hand, which is the tanking for a better draft position, thanks.
If people are going to continue this , there will be warnings and thread bans handed out, and I want to try and avoid that.
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That post was not so we can have a happy Funtime chat with you, it is so we can address any posts that are issues and deal with them. You adding your posts adds to 2 things - our work, and your chance of getting warnings. It does nothing useful. Don’t feed the trolls, and don’t think the presence of trolls entitles you to ignore all the rules of posting here.
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Hockey Duckie
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Tanking isn't just for the first round, but also all of the other ensuing rounds. I remember years ago how the Kings finished with a worse record than us and the Kings snatching up prospects we wanted before our turn. In 2021 draft, things flipped. Sure, we got McTavish at #3 overall, but we snagged both D Zellweger and Winger Pastujov at the top of the 2nd and 3rd rounds, respectively.
If we finish in the top-3, then we'll stay in the top-3 for the rest of the other rounds like in 2021 even if we move down in the first round due to the lottery. And since we need more forward help in our system, then we can focus on a potential top-6 forward with our own 2nd round pick. We can help ourselves with better talent depth.
If we finish in the top-3, then we'll stay in the top-3 for the rest of the other rounds like in 2021 even if we move down in the first round due to the lottery. And since we need more forward help in our system, then we can focus on a potential top-6 forward with our own 2nd round pick. We can help ourselves with better talent depth.
GreatBear
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I agree, particularly in the second round. If a team is picking in the top five in the second round it is usually picking a player who was considered by some as a late first round pick. It almost acts as getting talent equal to a second first round pick.
I’d definitely feel better at losing out at bedard at #3 than #1. I’m fine with sticking here. Carlson is a huge get. Michkov is a steal if he comes over within 3 years. That’s an if. Heck maybe he will defect. I trust our FO
Dr Johnny Fever
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I think this pretty much sums up the season nicely. And yeah, I’m not putting up with this shitshow of a season next year. However he does it, PV needs to give people hope and a product to enjoy starting next year.
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He has to address the defense in some fashion you’d think. Or maybe he just wants Fowler gone and this is the way.
Smirnov2Chistov
Fire Greg Cronin!
There is a lot of overreacting on here.. we finish top - 4 and we still get a great player
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sowcufucakky
It is understandable. When you have a chance at a Ferrari or a Bentley and still wind up with a Cadillac, one shouldn’t complain, but still feels cheated.
Lord Flashheart
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Would be a shame having to endure such a shit season, on multiple levels, and not finishing dead last to maximize the chances of getting the best possible player.
Dr Johnny Fever
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I give up thinking I have any idea what he will do. But I honestly believe the biggest improvement he could make starting next year is to bring in a coach who knows how to get the best out of all 22 guys.
But yeah, I’d love to see somebody besides Fowler who can actually play solid D.
Dr Johnny Fever
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That’s exactly the issue with this year’s draft. There is an opportunity to get a truly phenomenal talent. An opportunity that doesn’t come along often, and even when it does your team is usually far from having a decent chance to land that talent. But this year, it’s different.
All of a sudden the stars are lining up and we realize what an opportunity we have. Tension runs high. If this were last year‘s draft (or most others) it wouldn’t be worth all the current arguments going on. Hell, in most years the first pick is seldom the best pick, in hindsight. There’s a good chance that won’t be true this year.
I want that f***ing Lamborghini!
It would be interesting to draft Michkov since if he doesn’t help the team improve for a few years there’s a decent chance we could also draft Misa
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And then they both join the team at the same time (this is the dream scenario I’m using to cope with picking up that point yesterday which for some reason I have a bad feeling will haunt us for a very long time).
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And then they both join the team at the same time (this is the dream scenario I’m using to cope with picking up that point yesterday which for some reason I have a bad feeling will haunt us for a very long time).
If Michkov comes in 3 years, would that be when his elc begins? Having that kind of talent starting his elc when we should be rounding the final turn of our rebuild might just be a gamble I’d take if we are picking out of the top 3.
Hockey Duckie
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I embraced the tanking at last year's TDL. In order to get back to the playoffs, we have to replace the players we lost and get more talent to give us depth. The most difficult players to replace would be the talents lost of Lindholm and Manson. Verbeek's reset rebuild will have to create much more depth the team doesn't possess last year nor today. Also, Verbeek cited using that depth to help control the salary cap. My brain says it'll be a while to get there. I did share these thoughts often when the TDL happened and since.
Although we'll be getting a top-5 forward in this year's draft, it doesn't mean much if our defense isn't fixed. Therein lies the problem, Verbeek is growing our blueline from our prospect pool and that will take time developing. Next couple of years is about the prospect blueliners hopefully matriculating into the NHL ranks.
2023-24: RD Drysdale and LD/RD LaCombe (maybes: RD Helleson, LD/RDHinds)
2024-25: LD Minty, LD/RD Zell, and Hinds
2025-26: RD Luneau and RD Moore
2026-27: RD Warren
The 2025 season is the earliest I can see Verbeek using up draft picks or prospects to land notable NHL players to join the Ducks.
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sowcufucakky
Correct. The ELC doesn’t start until he’s playing professional hockey in North America.
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Terry Yake
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I can’t wait for this season to be over. It’s just so annoying on so many different levels
dracom
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like i said, henrique coming back to play these meaningless games is gonna ruin everything
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