2023 Tank Thread (Mod post Page 60)

[GunnarStahl]

Since it seems the Ducks will likely finish bottom 5 this year, I figured we should have a thread for discussing the implications of where the f***s will finish in the standings. As well as what factors could affect where they finish.

Tonight was interesting as all bottom 5 teams earned 2 points sans the Ducks and the Hawks.

Hey Folks,

Want to clear some of the air here, Tank talk is not an issue, please talk tank to your heart’s content here, totally understand how critical it is for that Future Potential Top pick. The issue is posting in the GDT, like you want the team to lose or make posts that you are angry they are winning or won the game, or bashing the team for not tanking.

The main reason is, to respect your fellow members. The GDT is about discussion of the game on a live basis and then post game discussion and opinions. A lot of fans are not rooting for the team to lose, and everyone has their views and opinions towards tanking, and may not want to discuss tanking in the GDT

If you guys have any concerns, feel free to PM me or another mod, and would be happy to explain more in detail.

Thanks!

Leo

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[CrazyDuck4u]

Franchise record 9th consecutive loss. That’s some elite tanking boys

Eakins is the Elite tanking coach

 

[Mr Rogers]

Very keen to watch that Chicago/Van game tomorrow.

 

[HanSolo]

Franchise record 9th consecutive loss. That’s some elite tanking boys

Bigger number is we are well on track to have the most shots against in NHL history since they started tracking the stat, and we still don't have last place comfortably locked up.

 

[HanSolo]

Very keen to watch that Chicago/Van game tomorrow.

Prayers that that garbage dump of a team plays their hides off to send Toews off with a bang.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Very keen to watch that Chicago/Van game tomorrow.

Needs to go to overtime

 

[tomd]

Ducks are going to win 2-3 of their final 4 games if they play as well as they did tonight.

 

[dracom]

really wishing we didn’t go into OT for some our games now…

 

[pbgoalie]

We clearly can’t play Dostal two games in row. Bring in OEE vs Phoenix??

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

I didn't realize the gap was as big as it was between 1 and 2. I was aware it was wide, but I didn't know it was 25% and 13.5%. That's a massive deal, the final week of the year is franchise-altering.

 

[91Fedorov]

Ducks are going to win 2-3 of their final 4 games if they play as well as they did tonight.

Yeah. That felt too close to me. I'm nervous about the PHX and LAK games.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Yeah I do wonder how the Kings might play in that final game if everything is sealed up for them. I’m sure they are watching everything very closely and wouldn’t for an instant decline to put their thumb on the scale in any way possible.

 

[91Fedorov]

I didn't realize the gap was as big as it was between 1 and 2. I was aware it was wide, but I didn't know it was 25% and 13.5%. That's a massive deal, the final week of the year is franchise-altering.

It's even more than that. The combined % of teams between 12 and 16 is 9.2%. They can't go up more than 10 spots, so if any of them win, #1 retains the first. So there is actually a 34.2% chance #1 gets the first. The gap is massive.

Edit: Nevermind. I was incorrect.

 

[ADHB]

It's even more than that. The combined % of teams between 12 and 16 is 9.2%. They can't go up more than 10 spots, so if any of them win, #1 retains the first. So there is actually a 34.2% chance #1 gets the first. The gap is massive.

The 25% number already takes that into consideration. The chances of the #1 team actually winning the drawing for the first overall pick is 18.5% or something like that.

 

[91Fedorov]

The 25% number already takes that into consideration. The chances of the #1 team actually winning the drawing for the first overall pick is 18.5% or something like that.

I stand corrected. The chart I looked at previously broke it down poorly. I found one that matched the numbers you stated clearly.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

If anyone cares, tankathon breaks down the specific odds for every position in the standings.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I didn't realize the gap was as big as it was between 1 and 2. I was aware it was wide, but I didn't know it was 25% and 13.5%. That's a massive deal, the final week of the year is franchise-altering.

Yup, since limiting a team can jump only 10 spots starting from the 2022 draft, then only 11 out of the 16 can be in the lottery. The lottery odds for teams 12-16 goes to the #1 pick since they cannot win the #1 pick. Technically, a 12-16 team can win the lottery, but the result is there will be no movement in the draft and the worst team retains the #1 pick.

Also, in the 2021 draft, the NHL went from drawing 3 lottery winners to only two lottery winners to prevent the #1 worst team from dropping out of the top-3 like the Red Wings did in the 2020 draft.

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NHL Draft​	Lottery​	Odds​	​	​	​
Pick​	​ 2019​	​ 2020​	​ 2021​	​ 2022 unaltered​	2022 altered​
​ 1​	​ 18.5​	​ 18.5​	​ 16.6​	​ 18.5​	​ 25.5​
​ 2​	​ 13.5​	​ 13.5​	​ 12.1​	​ 13.5​	​ 13.5​
​ 3​	​ 11.5​	​ 11.5​	​ 10.3​	​ 11.5​	​ 11.5​
​ 4​	​ 9.5​	​ 9.5​	​ 10.3​	​ 9.5​	​ 9.5​
​ 5​	​ 8.5​	​ 8.5​	​ 8.5​	​ 8.5​	​ 8.5​
​ 6​	​ 7.5​	​ 7.5​	​ 7.6​	​ 7.5​	​ 7.5​
​ 7​	​ 6.5​	​ 6.5​	​ 6.7​	​ 6.5​	​ 6.5​
​ 8​	​ 6​	​ 6​	​ 5.8​	​ 6​	​ 6​
​ 9​	​ 5​	​ 5​	​ 5.4​	​ 5​	​ 5​
​ 10​	​ 3.5​	​ 3.5​	​ 4.5​	​ 3.5​	​ 3.5​
​ 11​	​ 3​	​ 3​	​ 3.1​	​ 3​	​ 3​
​ 12​	​ 2.5​	​ 2.5​	​ 2.7​	​ 2.5​	not eligible​
​ 13​	​ 2​	​ 2​	​ 2.2​	​ 2​	not eligible​
​ 14​	​ 1.5​	​ 1.5​	​ 1.8​	​ 1.5​	not eligible​
​ 15​	​ 1​	​ 1​	​ 1.4​	​ 0.5​	not eligible​
​ 16​	n/a​	n/a​	​ 1​	​ 0.5​	not eligible​

Note: The Kraken entered the league in the 2021 draft. That expanded the lottery from 15 teams to 16 teams. Also, they were given the same odds as the #3 team, which is why the rest of the odds were funky compared to previous seasons.

 

[mighty Stanley Duck]

Ducks are going to win 2-3 of their final 4 games if they play as well as they did tonight.

But we played crap last 10 min, like tanking really got in our players mind.

 

[Terry Yake]

I didn't realize the gap was as big as it was between 1 and 2. I was aware it was wide, but I didn't know it was 25% and 13.5%. That's a massive deal, the final week of the year is franchise-altering.

i'm hoping they finish last overall just to guarantee a top 3 pick. bedard isn't happening and i hope no one actually thinks the ducks will land him

but just getting the chance to choose between fantilli or carlsson instead of smith or benson is very important

 

[AngelDuck]

We really are in great shape if we can lose against AZ Saturday. We then would get Colorado right after Sunday on a back to back. After that it would be down to 2 games

 

[405Entrance]

Start OEE next game and sit terry and Henrique

 

[Mr Rogers]

Start OEE next game and sit terry and Henrique

Terry won’t be playing in AZ it would seem

 

[Gliff]

Terry won’t be playing in AZ it would seem

Why?

 

[Rasp]

Why?

Need them draft picks

 

[Quack Shot]

Terry won’t be playing in AZ it would seem

Don’t think he’s making any road trips with the baby being close

 

[Quack Shot]

Another big night for the tank, Chicago has a good chance to beat the Canucks. Don’t see CBJ beating the Devils though.