Eye of Ra
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Correct.
Thomas Gradin, Näslund, Öhlund, Edler, Samuelsson, Sedins, OEL, Höglander, Elias Pettersson, Magnus Arvedsson, Mats Lindgren, Patrik Sundström, Lars Lindgren....
WC: 2023 Sweden Roster Talk
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Thomas Gradin, Näslund, Öhlund, Edler, Samuelsson, Sedins, OEL, Höglander, Elias Pettersson, Magnus Arvedsson, Mats Lindgren, Patrik Sundström, Lars Lindgren....
That’s just what I’m talking about. That’s the reasoning. Everything with the national team is a liability to you guys, do you think I would care about his NHL performance if it wouldn’t mean that he could eventually be productive in the NT? I wouldn’t.
Europe needs to create a hockey culture economically independent of the NHL. That’s gonna take time if its even possible.
IMO the NHL is to hockey what the EU is to Europe. Overbearing protectionism without realizing competition was what made it great in the first place. At this rate hockey will be as irrelevant as bandy in 30 years.
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theslatcher
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So the reason Folin took a while to join is because he was ill enough to having to eat pencillin and didn't want to transmit whatever he had.
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It just goes to show how different things are when it comes to representing your team vs country. 5m SEK is roughly 500k USD, Pettersson next deal with Vancouver will probably be worth ~160 times that.
Petterssons next contract will likely last 416 weeks. Add to that the 52 weeks he is already signed next year = 468 weeks. This tournament is roughly two weeks.
But of course national teams can't compete with NHL clubs economically, and thus can't be expected to pay the same. In the end, it comes down to if a player wants to go or not, with the risk that's involved.
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Yozhik v tumane
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You calm down this instant or I’m going to have to make a call home to your parents again.
And I hope you’re not seriously a Canucks fan swinging about playing meaningless games. If you’re so concerned about risking EP’s health you might as well have sat him for the entire season.
Well, regarding the Canucks it's fairly simple. If the federation pays for insurance then the player has the right to participate and the team can not deny that right. On the other hand if they don't pay, then the NHL organization has the right to deny participation and likely will.
Players will of course generally want to have their future earnings covered at least to some reasonable extent. As you say, if Pettersson suffers a serious injury and his NHL contract runs out in a year, he'll also risk losing tens of millions of dollars in career earnings.
theslatcher
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theslatcher
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Rasmussen, Everberg, Borgman, & Nyström still somehow getting to play that high up... Hopefully Nyström is better when away from Borgman, I guess.
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Well that's a shame. If it's really just about finances, couldn't the IIHF chip in? In the interest of growing the game in the world.
The problem is then they might have to chip in on all ludacris contract insurances that doesn’t exist. Elias wanted his coming contract to be insured aswell. SIF don’t know for how long and how much his gonna get signed for.
You are mixing up your accounts, this is not Flashback forum! It’s not about the money just the classic swedish jante law.
If Elias and his agent gets what he/they want(s), all NHL players' agents under 26ish years will be asking for an insurance that would cover their player's possible future contracts until they are 35ish... And this is ridiculous.
(European) players should consider not listening to their agents, and think about the fact that they actually owe something to their country's hockey federation for having the possibility to become a NHL-star and that the chance of a career-stopping injury happening during the WHC is probably less than taking the risk of driving and flying during an ordinary week in the NHL.
(European) players should consider not listening to their agents, and think about the fact that they actually owe something to their country's hockey federation for having the possibility to become a NHL-star and that the chance of a career-stopping injury happening during the WHC is probably less than taking the risk of driving and flying during an ordinary week in the NHL.
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Eye of Ra
Grandmaster General of the International boards
Eye of Ra
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One of the coolest player ever is available, Jets is out. Im talking about Axel Jonsson Fjällby. That hair, lighting fast and gritty. Had a good season with 14 points in 50 NHL games mostly played on bottom 6. He dont have contract, but he is probaly one of those who might use WC to increase the chances to get more interest from NHL clubs and better contract.
There is also Kevin Stenlund and David Gustafsson, but a big no thanks to both of them.
There is also Kevin Stenlund and David Gustafsson, but a big no thanks to both of them.
Which of these players will end up in the Czech Hockey Games? Remove three and add two from/to the players below! One user at the time! (Until we have 14 + 8 + 3). A few might not even be in the race.
Berggren – Carlsson – Raymond
Nylander – Bengtsson – Silfverberg
Sörensen – Lindberg – Petersson
Rasmussen – de la Rose – Everberg
Dahlén – Lander - Klingberg
Wallmark - Lindholm
Sandin – Pudas
Tömmernes – Folin
Häman Aktell – Persson
Borgman – Lindholm
Lennström - Bengtsson
Johansson
Söderström
Enroth
Högberg
Berggren – Carlsson – Raymond
Nylander – Bengtsson – Silfverberg
Sörensen – Lindberg – Petersson
Rasmussen – de la Rose – Everberg
Dahlén – Lander - Klingberg
Wallmark - Lindholm
Sandin – Pudas
Tömmernes – Folin
Häman Aktell – Persson
Borgman – Lindholm
Lennström - Bengtsson
Johansson
Söderström
Enroth
Högberg
Eye of Ra
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Why do you have Bengtsson as the 2C? Lindberg and Pär Lindholm is better.
Dahlen, Lander, Klingberg, Lennström and Wallmark is not on the team, and will probaly not be added either. Lander and Wallmark would be good adds thought yes, but Dahlen is never good in Tre Kronor and Klingberg is a shell of his former self.
Folin has never made a good game with Tre Kronor and you have him on second pairing. He should not even be on the squad.
Would not be shocked if Hallams favorite, Martin Lundberg, gets a invite.
God damnit, i was like a kid on christmas day when i heard EP and Dahlin was going. Actually i was so happy i almost didn't care who the rest of the team were. But with the last days circumstances i get reminded once again why international hockey is almost dead, having almost nothing to do with WC being played every year.
As long as NHL is dictating over the 1000 best players on this planet. We wont see a good international competition format. Just ridiculous to have a season with 82-110 games played
Best we get is the WJC somewhat and the U18.
As long as NHL is dictating over the 1000 best players on this planet. We wont see a good international competition format. Just ridiculous to have a season with 82-110 games played
Best we get is the WJC somewhat and the U18.
Eye of Ra
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This entire contract situation with Pettersson just reeks canucks manipulation of him. Its all part of a larger scheme by the NHL to eventually kill the European liability every spring.
Eye of Ra
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yeah or we dont have money anymore, if erik karlsson, and whoever more is also too "expansive" to bring over, then we know its us being poor...
Ah, the order of pairings and lines is not that important right now imho. Lindholm is a question mark and him and Lindberg are good on lower lines. Bengtsson most probly being outplayed by Carlsson and arriving centre (if any). That's why i have him at 2C.
The basis of my post was Hallam saying yesterday after the game 10-12 players from this team will make it to the final roster. I tried to "fill out" with possible players. Oscar Möller!
Let's hope we at least can have Kempe and Forsling on the team. Will be a golden opportunity for these to become point kings. And known to the swedish masses. Those who are left...
