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West Ham also agreed terms with Mavrapanos, we’ll see when/if they can agree with Stuttgart.
Thanks Harry.
Thanks Harry.
Jussi
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Duchene2MacKinnon
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There’s a German thread that has a lot of traffic you’d think at some point one of the regular watchers would mention he had a good game or how decent he is…Well that's not too hard, like 90% of the players that get mentioned on here are only because of a link to an EPL team, or Barca/Real, or are French/German/Argentinian (and probably half of all those are because Arsenal are reported to be in on everyone and Chelsea are actually buying everyone).
LOGiK
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Is there no thread for the super friendly last night? The winners of the winners and the winners of the losers should play at the end of the season, rather than beginning... makes it less of exhibition.
City isn't City without BOTH of KBD and illy gundo....
City isn't City without BOTH of KBD and illy gundo....
cgf
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Nah, we're good.Other than Bayern being on auto-championship, which really seems to bother fans outside the league more than those that follow it, there's a great dynamic through the league. Bout the only given is FCB, BVB, RBL, and B04 are likely to finish in the top half or better, but pretty much anything can happen outside of that (like a 2nd division club vaulting themselves to European competition and even title contention within a short few years or traditional "giants" unable to marshal their resources enough to stop crapping the bed and sustain a run in the top flight). If it means being a "lesser" league and monotonous Bayern titles, so be it.
Even more importantly than that attending matches is actually affordable for regular fans, the league is well run, and the clubs actually have to care about their fans because of the ownership regulations.
Fans of other leagues obsess about Bayern so much because they feel compelled to justify their decision to indulge in an inferior product. That's why BuLi fans just laugh at those "critiques".
bleedblue1223
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cgf
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TBF the stuttgart fan we had rarely posts on here and that team hasn't been good enough for neutrals to watch or comment on them much. Endo's going to do surprisingly well for LFC.
Chimaera
same ol' Caps
cgf
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Not really. I mean Bayern and Dortmund fans care. But who cares what those whores think? Other fans care a lot more about being able to attend each match, the game-day experience, and how their club does, than who lifts the salad bowl.
Understandably. He's been one of the few stable forces on a very inconsistent and young team. I'm thinking of putting some money on them to get relegated now.
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Savant
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Man they just have been taking the pies with Olise to back out over the tapping up
And the other DM targets they are linked with will have AFCON. But hoping Bajcetic is rolling by then
Savant
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Chelsea selling to Newcastle to help alleviate FFP concerns by giving a home grown player to their (arguably) biggest rival for a top four spot? For a fee that doesn’t match the player’s CV? If I speak, I am in big trouble
bleedblue1223
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Fee that doesn't match the player's CV? What fee do you think matches it?
£30M for a guy with 600 mins of first team football is ridiculous. The guy doesn’t even have a nailed on position at this point.
bleedblue1223
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High-end prospects with even limited minutes in inferior leagues even get big fees.
Is the new conspiracy that Newcastle is overpaying Chelsea to help their FFP situation for reasons?
There was a report that it was a somewhat complicated release clause, so could've been one of those where they structured it in a very specific way, and we happened to make a very specifically structured bid to trigger it. It's those things that to me make release clauses pointless.
I didn’t say anything about a conspiracy. But the fee is definitely dumb and it’s wild you guys think he’s being undersold.
bleedblue1223
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Savant is the conspiratorial one. We'll see what Hall looks like in a few years, but I think this will be a very good deal for Newcastle. I'd sell Broja, Gallagher, and Chalobah first.
The current value is likely fair, we are just selling him before he even comes close to his potential or has a chance to display it more.
bluesfan94
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Old enough to remember Adnan Januzaj's first 9 games.
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I don’t think any of us think he’s actually worth 55 at this stage or whatever.
I think what we see is a sale that shouldn’t happen. We handled Hall’s situation extremely poorly. We should need an insane overpayment to sell.
Instead we are pushing a sale on the wrong player.
TheMoreYouKnow
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I think you take what you read and then fill in the gaps with your own biases. I think everyone has a tendency to do that, but it's important to be aware of that. Paul Joyce is a respected journalist, but he's still not in those meetings or privy to everything going on behind closed doors. I say that because it's very easy to craft narratives on the back of very limited information.
I think there's a few obvious problems for Liverpool:
- Inability to outspend domestic competition
- Instability at the DoF position
- Necessity to rebuild the squad on the fly
Given the tendency of Liverpool's competition to spend like there's an infinite amount of funding available, it's a tricky situation. It'd require an extraordinary commitment to spending to beat them for players, and you'd need to put an extraordinary amount of trust in a DoF who will probably be back in his Black Forest mansion soon enough (and knows it). Add to that it's widely known in the industry that you need to make impact signings, in other words the biggest leverage a customer has - the ability to walk away - is greatly reduced. The football industry is of course a shark tank and everyone knows these things about Liverpool - in other words, it's a perfect scenario for Liverpool to be taken advantage of by dodgy player agents and greedy club owners.
The only way to avoid this scenario would have been to have a better transfer market performance over the last 3-4 seasons. But perhaps there is also a deeper truth here that Liverpool can't expect to be perennially good in a league where some teams have significantly deeper pockets and aren't afraid to reach into them time and time again. So maybe Liverpool simply have completed a cycle and the window is shutting, and there's not much to be done about it.
bleedblue1223
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It's sort of like the Livramento situation, but Hall should've had a clearer path to minutes with his versatility and while Chilwell is still pretty young, he isn't as young as Reece was when Livramento left, and he has injury issues as well.
This is also why our academy is valued because even though breaking through here is extremely difficult, you have a good chance of developing, and if you do, you'll break through or be moved somewhere and given a chance.
This is also why our academy is valued because even though breaking through here is extremely difficult, you have a good chance of developing, and if you do, you'll break through or be moved somewhere and given a chance.
