Buffalo Bills 2023 Summer - Post-Draft and Pre-Camp Talk

[Waterfowlist]

Kelce hyper-extended his knee. It's gonna be real interesting watching that KC offense if they have to go a couple of games without him. They don't really have that primary steady pass catching threat without him and that's how KC's offense has operated since Hill left...

They have the only player that matters.

QB is the great equalizer. Mahomes will be just fine.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

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I love Bill's Mafia!

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[SundherDome]

They have the only player that matters.

QB is the great equalizer. Mahomes will be just fine.

Will be interesting as his receivers have let him down before but I'm sure he will be fine

 

[WeDislikeEich]

If your draft is through a website (Yahoo and ESPN are probably the most popular for season-long drafts), those sites will have a "default" ranking that can be perfectly fine as a baseline guide. You may agree or disagree with their projections if there's a player you think is going to struggle this season, or another you think is going to break out. There are tons of different strategies people use. I'd say try a few mock drafts on Yahoo/ESPN to test different things out, see how other people are drafting, etc. to get a feel for it.

The most important thing to know before your draft is how your league is structured. What is your roster size is, how many of each position you need to start each week, and what your bench size is., what the scoring system is (some leagues do 1 point per reception, 1/2 point per reception, or none, and this affects how valuable pass catchers are.) Also keep in mind bye weeks, but don't obsess over it. Some people are perfectly fine with having all their best players have the same bye week and basically taking the loss that week, most people though try to spread it out so they don't take that automatic L. But rosters change over the course of the year: injuries, dropping players due to poor performance and picking new guys off the waiver wire, etc., so even the best bye week planning can be completely different by the time you actually get to the bye week. But you might not want to draft two QBs who have the same bye week when you can only start one anyways, your backup you're probably only going to need for the one week your starter is off.

Also don't draft your kicker until the last round, and definitely don't draft a backup. Kickers are essentially interchangeable, when your kicker gets his bye you'll just drop him and pick up a different one. This is assuming your league follows a standard position set where you start one kicker each week, some leagues get rid of the kicker spot altogether because of how random it ends up being.

Just to follow up on what @NotABadPeriod posted:

I can't stress enough his point to know the format of the league and the scoring system. If your league gives a point or half-point per reception -- that's going to make WRs more valuable than RBs early, and that deepens the number of playable RBs. Also watch how many points per TD throw. If it's 6 points per TD throw, consider taking your QB a little earlier than some sites would recommend (the default is 4 points per TD throw anymore).

Just to kind of give you an idea of what you could be in for, I just drafted in a 10 team league last night. 1 point per reception, 4 points per TD throw. My team wound up being (and the round):

QB -- Herbert (7), Prescott (10)
RB -- Etienne (3), Mattison (6), Kamara (9)
WR -- Diggs (1), Kupp (2), Hopkins (5), McLaurin (8), Smith-Schuster (12), Toney (14)
TE -- Andrews (4), Higbee (13)
D/ST -- New Orleans (11)
K -- Whothehellcares (15)

This is just one example.

Basically mirrors my strat, down to the named players Only note @WeDislikeEich would be to note your draft position and make sure you're in a snake draft. That's the standard but leagues that have been around a while might do ordered (even if it's not dynasty). That can influence whether I go RB or WR 1/2 and what round I draft a QB (super early or late position picks, you might need to overdraft to get one worthwhile).

Otherwise I just go on autopilot and take BPA depending on need. Be active with injury management/waiver wire and don't be shy about trades but be smart and always counter offer. I don't take it that seriously but that strategy usually lands me in the playoffs

Thank you to everyone who offered advise. I appreciate it!

So the league is through yahoo. Do you know what their point system is? Or does it depend on the specific league she’s playing in? If it’s a standardized point system for all yahoo leagues, how would you value RBs, WRs, QBs?

Thanks again everyone

 

[whiplash]

I hesitate to give advice because I do very little research, but I think one thing to watch out for is grabbing a top 5 RB. WRs are hot items so a sure-thing RB will drop. There's a handful that'll be the most consistent source of fantasy points on their team (bonus to pass catchers, like Ekeler, if your league has Points Per Reception (PPR))

I stay in my one fantasy league to keep in touch with friends and get some quality trash talk in, some people do it to make more games interesting. Best thing is to have fun with it. If it's a tossup and a player you personally like/know more is slightly worse on paper, take him! And if it's the unfortunate kind of league that takes itself too seriously, just don't draft three right ends, or a kicker in the first 10 rounds, and you should be fine

 

[Dubi Doo]

Let's do it, you filthy animals! Week one predictions!

This is what I wrote on another forum I venture from time to time:

Week 1 matchups are always a crapshoot. I remember plenty of years where the Pats would lose a couple of games to start the season, and everyone would say 'their run is over' only for them to be playing late into January or making another Superbowl run.

I actually think the Jets take this one. They're going to be a good team this year, imo. They have a stingy defense, a very good run game if Hall gets back to speed, and Aaron Rodgers has a wealth of weapons to throw to or lean on. Their O line is their biggest question mark.

I won't be too worried if Buffalo loses. The Jets always seem to play them tough outside of that one blowout a couple of years ago. It will hurt if we do lose against a division foe, but as I said, I don't read too much into week 1 results. I'm much more concerned with the team's play in December heading into January.



Bills- 20

Jets-27

 

[Jim Bob]

Let's do it, you filthy animals! Week one predictions!

This is what I wrote on another forum I venture from time to time:

Week 1 matchups are always a crapshoot. I remember plenty of years where the Pats would lose a couple of games to start the season, and everyone would say 'their run is over' only for them to be playing late into January or making another Superbowl run.

I actually think the Jets take this one. They're going to be a good team this year, imo. They have a stingy defense, a very good run game if Hall gets back to speed, and Aaron Rodgers has a wealth of weapons to throw to or lean on. Their O line is their biggest question mark.

I won't be too worried if Buffalo loses. The Jets always seem to play them tough outside of that one blowout a couple of years ago. It will hurt if we do lose against a division foe, but as I said, I don't read too much into week 1 results. I'm much more concerned with the team's play in December heading into January.



Bills- 20

Jets-27

Bills 28
Jets 14

And Hot Take Tuesday will be all about how Aaron Rodgers is over the hill and the Jets are frauds.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Bills 28
Jets 14

And Hot Take Tuesday will be all about how Aaron Rodgers is over the hill and the Jets are frauds.

A man can dream! That would likely set the Jets back a few years, and maybe bring the end to Joe Douglas' tenure, which would make me happy because I think he's a pretty good GM.

 

[Jim Bob]

A man can dream! That would likely set the Jets back a few years, and maybe bring the end to Joe Douglas' tenure, which would make me happy because I think he's a pretty good GM.

Hot Take Tuesday will go one of two ways on all the hot take shows.

If the Jets win, it will be all about how Rodgers makes them a SB contender and the Bills window is closed and they will struggle to make the playoffs.

If the Bills win, it will be that the Jets are overrated and the Bills are feeding off all the doubters and how people underestimated a team that went 13-3 last season despite all sorts of injury and off the field issues.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Hot Take Tuesday will go one of two ways on all the hot take shows.

If the Jets win, it will be all about how Rodgers makes them a SB contender and the Bills window is closed and they will struggle to make the playoffs.

If the Bills win, it will be that the Jets are overrated and the Bills are feeding off all the doubters and how people underestimated a team that went 13-3 last season despite all sorts of injury and off the field issues.

This is exactly how I expect it to play out. It'll suck in the short term, but as the season progresses- I think the Bills will begin to hit their stride. Von coming back 100% healthy and dominant would be HUGE. Allowing Rousseau to line up inside with Floyd on the outside along with Miller on 3rd and long situations could be a nightmare for opposing offenses.

Really, really happy Beane signed Floyd. The DE position was lacking someone who can get after the QB since Miller has been out. The fact he's a well-rounded DE is the cherry on top. I'm also going to be keeping a keen eye on Rousseau. He seems to be on the cusp of breaking out. If he can approach 10 sacks a year, that'd be huge given how good he is against the running game. He'd be well worth his draft position if that's the case.

 

[kirby11]

I'm hoping the Bills offense will have a slight advantage from the Jets not having any tape to study, but I think their d-line will still give Allen and co. a ton of problems. I expect it'll be a pretty close game and will come down to a couple of possessions in the fourth quarter.

 

[kirby11]

They have the only player that matters.

QB is the great equalizer. Mahomes will be just fine.

Mostly agree with this, and having Reid scheming up at least one guy to be butt-naked open on seemingly every other play sure helps, but Kelce's been the lynchpin of their offense in terms of "gotta have it" moments, keeping things on schedule with short receptions, having a mind-meld with Mahomes on out of structure plays or scramble drills, and taking attention away from their other pass-catchers.

I say all this and KC will probably go out and drop 35+ on Detroit tomorrow night, but I think it's possible Kelce's absence causes a small ripple effect of disruptions within their offense, at least for a couple drives per game.

 

[Jim Bob]

This is exactly how I expect it to play out. It'll suck in the short term, but as the season progresses- I think the Bills will begin to hit their stride. Von coming back 100% healthy and dominant would be HUGE. Allowing Rousseau to line up inside with Floyd on the outside along with Miller on 3rd and long situations could be a nightmare for opposing offenses.

Really, really happy Beane signed Floyd. The DE position was lacking someone who can get after the QB since Miller has been out. The fact he's a well-rounded DE is the cherry on top. I'm also going to be keeping a keen eye on Rousseau. He seems to be on the cusp of breaking out. If he can approach 10 sacks a year, that'd be huge given how good he is against the running game. He'd be well worth his draft position if that's the case.

I think the Bills come out to a hot start like they did last season on the road against the Rams.

 

[Jim Bob]

The hot take driven media outlets can't talk about how the Bills led the NFL in DVOA last year and the roster got better because it won't generate engagement like trashing the Bills does.

 

[Dirty Dog]

The game will go one of two ways. It will either be a typical jets game where the bills (and only the bills) play like absolute shit and the game is STILL very close. Or we play like we should and the Bills pull away in the third quarter.

My bet is the latter. Bills up 14-20 to 7-10 in the second quarter….with a final score of 34-17

 

[TageGod]

Bills 34
Jets 13

Sorry Jets, going with history. Rogers first game performances are abysmal.

 

[buffalowing88]

The game will go one of two ways. It will either be a typical jets game where the bills (and only the bills) play like absolute shit and the game is STILL very close. Or we play like we should and the Bills pull away in the third quarter.

My bet is the latter. Bills up 14-20 to 7-10 in the second quarter….with a final score of 34-17

This has broken my brain haha. Do you mean we would be up 20-14 or 10-7? Maybe I'm just having a brain fart.

Also, I'll say Jets win 20-17 and won't read into it at all personally. I think it's better to get one tough loss out early. The '21 Bills had their early struggles and I think that resulted in them becoming the best of this era when the playoffs came. Less pressure down the stretch.

 

[Husko]

Torrence and Bernard starting at RG and MLB

Edit: And Benford at CB

 

[Husko]

Very exciting the Bills are letting some young players take on starting roles. Barring injury, Cook, Kincaid, Torrence, Benford, and Bernard should all be 1st or 2nd year players well over 50% of snaps, which will be our largest number in quite awhile.

 

[Dirty Dog]

This has broken my brain haha. Do you mean we would be up 20-14 or 10-7? Maybe I'm just having a brain fart.

Also, I'll say Jets win 20-17 and won't read into it at all personally. I think it's better to get one tough loss out early. The '21 Bills had their early struggles and I think that resulted in them becoming the best of this era when the playoffs came. Less pressure down the stretch.

Heh! I meant we will have anywhere from 14-20 points, and that bum NJ team will have 7-10 points until we pull away.


Leave me alone haha

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Dubi Doo]

Let's hope Bernard can hold the MLB spot down better than Dodson did during preseason.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Let's hope Bernard can hold the MLB spot down better than Dodson did during preseason.

how many weeks before we see Kirksey, 2-3 ?

 

[Jim Bob]