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Red Sox/MLB 2023 Regular Season VIII - Chaim Bloom FIRED
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Donnie Shulzhoffer
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You can see it coming. Going forward the coming years we will get endless posts about a player having a good game that Bloom acquired
Listening to Sam Kennedy, I would take issue with his proclamation about how demanding this organization is about winning and winning titles. For me to get on board with that there needs to be a commitment from ownership now. You can't sit outside the top 10 in payroll and then expect to be shielded from blame. Put more money into the payroll now or sell the team please.
They already try to give him the credit for Bello, Casas, Duran etc
Was fine if they wanted to give Bloom the last year of his contract but doing nothing at the deadline again pushed me to the fire Bloom side. Bloom being more on the dork side of baseball executives makes me think he just doesn't have the people skills to go into a locker room full of baseball players and tell them he doesn't believe in them and is selling for the future. Paxton not making it to the end of the season was one of the most obvious outcomes of holding onto him and they still did it.
Maybe you don't want someone who's going to sell everything in the farm like Dombrowski long term but go get someone who will run the big market team like they are a big market team.
Maybe you don't want someone who's going to sell everything in the farm like Dombrowski long term but go get someone who will run the big market team like they are a big market team.
BruinsFanSince94
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Just like we had to listen to the posts about DD guys. Prepare yourself. I’m going to be insufferable
Mr Cartmenez
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Indecisive is another term that can be used. That's going in the direction of my thoughts as well. But I don't know about the "great baseball mind" anymore. I was honestly pretty shocked how the team was constructed, especially this season.
Indeed, he inherited a pretty disruptive product in 2020 when he had to deal with the Betts-trade, but at the same time he had the comfort to be able to tank the first year in a shortened season not many cared about and since then so much time has gone by... and that's what he had come up with after 3 years? How could a great baseball mind not see that the roster was crowded with several DHs, no real SS and thin pitching? He obviously gambled that the offense was going to bail them out and the starters would stay healthy, but I really can't believe a great baseball mind weights offense still so heavily in 2023 when we have learned many years ago though advanced metrics that defense and base running are unsung, but very important parts of the game.
It's amazing that this info comes from smart people, stuff that idiots like us say on this board. It's almost like we know what we're talking about sometimes!
Donnie Shulzhoffer
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The only DD posts were to remind others that the player(s) aren’t Bloom players.Just like we had to listen to the posts about DD guys. Prepare yourself. I’m going to be insufferable
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KrejciMVP
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Just like we had to listen to the posts about DD guys. Prepare yourself. I’m going to be insufferable
DD has 2 recent WS appearances and the best Red Sox season in their history. There is really nothing to compare but I can understand its a tough day for Bloom fans.
Mr Cartmenez
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Well said, but wrong. He didn‘t stay under the tax in 2022, yet still finished last.
He wasn‘t (initially) asked to win. They finished last in 20 and 2022. 2021 was obviously the outlier.
They are barely under the threshold in 23. it‘s not like he had nothing to work with. When he took over, it was still a roster with plenty WS talent on it. Nobody forced him to sell AB when his value was the lowest. Or letting XB leave as free agent. Or trade a 2 WAR Renfroe for a minus return. Or extend a sticky stuff sacrifice in Barnes rather than trading him. Or not move Eovaldi at the deadline 22. Or…
I don‘t know what Passan is talking about.
Maybe Bloom can buy a ticket when Dombrowski goes into the HOF
quietbruinfan
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BruinsFanSince94
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Funniest thing is that it’s not a tough day in the slightest. I don’t care that Bloom was fired. I liked what he did, and think he deserved this off-season but it is what it is.
Onto the next guy. I just hope they pick the right one and not Cora.
Aren't you the same guy who said Cora quit on the team? But now you're criticizing him for trying to win a game? Pick a lane. Or when did you officially surrender?
Passing is also trying to spin it like Chaim was fired for not winning a WS when all we are asking for is not finishing in last place back to back years. I guess that's expecting too much.
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Dennis Bonvie
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GatorMike
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Bloom will have finished under the CBT threshhold in three of his four seasons. The one year they were over, they were barely (...about $6 million, if memory serves) over. Dave Dombrowski's last Red Sox team was $37 million over the CBT threshhold.
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GatorMike
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I was just setting the record straight. I wasn't touting it as an accomplishment.
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