Red Sox/MLB 2023 Regular Season VI: Hunt for the Wild Card is on

[McGarnagle]

Not good, Bob

 

[McGarnagle]

Bleier might be one of the worst Red Sox of all time

 

[quietbruinfan]

Bleier might be one of the worst Red Sox of all time

But but he has a 3.09 ERA and is left handed, but but but ^$$$EEE%R Bloom and this horrible bullpen

 

[Johnnyduke]

Schreiber and Bleier took a grenade to this game. I am sure Bleier being on the team is Cora's fault. Good scrappy fight from the underdogs today.

Screw the Bloom pen, and screw that incompetent, gutless zero. However, if this goes how it should, he may be FIRED!

If this team disintegrates post deadline and falls way out of it then yes he absolutely should be fired. If they hang around the wild card chase till the end of the season I am inclined to give him another year where you make the playoffs or you're gone.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Schreiber and Bleier took a grenade to this game. I am sure Bleier being on the team is Cora's fault. Good scrappy fight from the underdogs today.


If this team disintegrates post deadline and falls way out of it then yes he absolutely should be fired. If they hang around the wild card chase till the end of the season I am inclined to give him another year where you make the playoffs or you're gone.

Another year? I would not give him another game. Of course, I hate him. There is that.

 

[Mione134]

Bleier has been so bad.

Schreiber still doesn't look himself either.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Well hopefully the Jays get their shit pushed in again by the Orioles tonight.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Whoever is running the development part of Red Sox organization they should get a raise

I am glad you specified the development department and not the overall big league team.

 

[McGarnagle]

Meanwhile Domingo German is done for the year because the Yankees are sending him to rehab

 

[Johnnyduke]

Bleier has been so bad.

Schreiber still doesn't look himself either.

If we're being honest, Schreiber was nothing before one good year last year. So that was probably a career year for him.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Screw the Bloom pen, and screw that incompetent, gutless zero. However, if this goes how it should, he may be FIRED!

Red Sox need starting pitching.

But by all means continue bitching about the bullpen which is fine.

What is the color of the sky in your world?

 

[CDJ]

I thought trotting Schreiber out for a 2nd inning was insane

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Red Sox need starting pitching.

But by all means continue bitching about the bullpen which is fine.

What is the color of the sky in your world?

Need they can't really fulfill unless a miracle happens regarding Chris Sale.

 

[EvilDead]

I'm so confused.

You started by by writing this:

"Now look at him in San Diego. He's near the top 5 in WAR on a team that's in a hotly contested division for a team that's really only being let down by its bullpen. Meanwhile the Red Sox are playing hot potato at shortstop until Mayer is theoretically ready to play and have had a cavalcade of crap come down the pike every night while barely holding on to a wild card spot."​

Perhaps I'm misinterpreting, but I take this as you making a case that Bogaerts is better off with the Padres, who have been objectively worse than the Red Sox this year. You brag that he's "near the top five in WAR on the team", which is both a low hurdle to clear for a $25 million/year player, and dismissive of the fact that he's on pace to have arguably his worst offensive season since he was a rookie.

I point this out, and your response is not to acknowledge that the Padres are the most disappointing team in baseball or that Bogaerts is having (...by his standards) a miserable season, but to move the goalposts and complain about how the Red Sox' 3rd, 4th, and 5th choices at shortstop aren't very good?

But I'll play your game. The Red Sox don't have a decent shortstop at the moment. Give it another week or so, and they'll have a 2x All-Star playing the position.

I haven't moved the goal posts. The use of shortstop is to highlight how piecemeal the Red Sox are. Now have the Padres been less than stellar? Sure, especially given the price tag they've paid for certain assets. You can also argue that the Red Sox have also been less than stellar, given their resources available to them and the ability to build a better roster than what they have as well as relying on players who don't have the ability to consistently post due to injury like Adam Duvall, Christian Arroyo, Chris Sale, James Paxton, Trevor Story, Garrett Whitlock, Tanner Houck, and Corey Kluber. That to me is insulting. Especially when there were arms to be had at the deadline. The Padres, despite being 5 games back and under 500, are still in it thanks to strength of schedule and that key players like Tatis, Kim, Machado, and Bogaerts are finally starting to turn it around offensively and are finally giving run support to their strong rotation. The Red Sox? They are playing a dangerous game of chicken relying on really only Brayan Bello, Rafael Devers, Jarren Durran, and Masataka Yoshida to get you through this while waiting for Sale, Whitlock, Houck, and Story to get back.

When they end with titles yes. Literally yes.

Based on what?

 

[EverettMike]

Based on what?

What?

 

[EvilDead]

What?

Again...as I said above...the decline in fan support has been a gradual process. Yes two titles rallied the fan base, but those two titles in 2013 and 2018 were followed up by a last place finish and a miss of the playoffs respectively thanks to management messing around in the offseason. The only other team that I have seen been this Jekyll and Hyde when it comes to in season performances in the four major sports leagues in the US are the Pittsburgh Steelers.

 

[EverettMike]

Again...as I said above...the decline in fan support has been a gradual process. Yes two titles rallied the fan base, but those two titles in 2013 and 2018 were followed up by a last place finish and a miss of the playoffs respectively thanks to management messing around in the offseason. The only other team that I have seen been this Jekyll and Hyde when it comes to in season performances in the four major sports leagues in the US are the Pittsburgh Steelers.

The Steelers haven't had a losing regular season since 2003. They've had 3 total since 1989. Are you just pulling stuff out of your ass for the sake of complaining?

 

[EvilDead]

The Steelers haven't had a losing regular season since 2003. They've had 3 total since 1989. Are you just pulling stuff out of your ass for the sake of complaining?

We consider multiple 8-8 records and missing the playoffs as winning seasons now?

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

We consider multiple 8-8 records and missing the playoffs as winning seasons now?

Is this real life? Well, it’s not a losing record. LMAO

Losing Record = UNDER .500

8-8 = .500 RECORD

It’s neither a winning nor losing season.

 

[EverettMike]

We consider multiple 8-8 records and missing the playoffs as winning seasons now?

LOL. Those are not losing seasons. And in the NFL's hard cap era it's a miraculous run of stability. Literally the opposite of a Jekyll and Hyde.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I haven't moved the goal posts. Sure, especially given the price tag they've paid for certain assets. You can also argue that the Red Sox have also been less than stellar, given their resources available to them and the ability to build a better roster than what they have as well as relying on players who don't have the ability to consistently post due to injury like Adam Duvall, Christian Arroyo, Chris Sale, James Paxton, Trevor Story, Garrett Whitlock, Tanner Houck, and Corey Kluber. The Red Sox? They are playing a dangerous game of chicken relying on really only Brayan Bello, Rafael Devers, Jarren Durran, and Masataka Yoshida to get you through this while waiting for Sale, Whitlock, Houck, and Story to get back.



Based on what?

What about Turner? or Casas? or Paxton?

 

[CDJ]

ignore feature is the best thing this site ever created. You don’t have to see other people tell you that 8-8 is a losing record

 

[Johnnyduke]

ignore feature is the best thing this site ever created. You don’t have to see other people tell you that 8-8 is a losing record

How did you see it then

 

[Lobster57]

How did you see it then

he saw people he doesn't have on ignore responding to people he does?

 

[CDJ]

he saw people he doesn't have on ignore responding to people he does?

Leave it to somebody who thinks 8-8 is a losing record to not understand that…